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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1140
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Posted - 2012.06.04 16:36:00 -
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Tadeo Musashy wrote:Akita T wrote: curious on the exact details of your proposal lets say you own a "xyz" BPO whos base manuf time is 32 hrs... then every 32 hrs you would find in your hangar a single run "xyz" BPC... some owners could see a drawback in not having the BPO available for at will sale... i see it different, or at least i see somethint that compensate that:: the bpcs would be available both for sale or manufacturing... i still havent made my mind yet wether or not the unlimited bpcs source should be a trade'able ownership deed... i'd say it shouldnt... but if one would really want to capitalize on his ownership the selling the char option (including the rights) would always be there as a last resort. That doesn't really solve much, if anything. You just add extra clicking to BPO production (instead of removing clicking from invention), and maybe extra hassle for BPO selling, everything else remains the same. BPO opponents will still be against it for pretty much the same reasons they are against it now, ability to make stuff cheaper. That doesn't change in your proposal, not one bit. And if you also go with the "can't be traded" option, you make getting a T2 BPO (or better said, its bizarre proposed equivalent) for somebody who does not have one (but has the ISK for it) even harder than it already is. Bottom line, it's a pretty lousy "solution", if you can even call it that. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T http://eve-search.com/stats/Akita_T T2 BPO poll : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789 |
VaMei
Meafi Corp
168
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Posted - 2012.06.05 11:51:00 -
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While I'm opposed to removing T2BPOs (even though IGÇÖve never seen one), I still feel that the best option for many of the things CCP might want to do would be an Eve Central Bank, funded by isk & items confiscated by the GMs and CCP Screegs & Co.
Confiscated items could be sold at market to reduce isk in circulation, and undesirable items could be bought off the market or at auction. No one is penalized for their legal high value purchases, nothing is spawned into existence, and ill-gotten gains are used to improve the game for the rest of us.
While CCP would need to be open about the process if they chose this road (possibly to include a periodic ECB asset report), for obvious reasons the characters directly involved would need to remain anonymous.
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Pacifica Mata
NORAD NAVY
0
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Posted - 2012.06.05 15:07:00 -
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Well I am not really surprise that for irrevelant reasons people complaining...
in RL ppl complaining about neightboors having better car, pretty wife, succes in their job, thinking it was to them to be successfull, to have the nice girl, so wishing higher tax on them, illness and so ;)
Here ppl complaining about game mechanics when they was not successfull. Yes it is, it's called life, that is. It was a lottery. In RL ppl complaining about lottery? of course not, they play once and once again.
Instead of trying to leverage by the bottom, why not seed T2 BPO again.
Let's take an example: CCP could analyze that for the size of TQ, there is a need of 2000 T2 small shield booster a day. They could know how many are producing from BPO T2, and how many are producing from invention.
They see there is a gap of 500 pieces a day, so let seed 20 BPO T2 of this and see production increasing and price decreasing (maybe).
Let have also T2 BPO disapearing, being transformed into BPC if not used for a certain amount of time (3, 6 months?) By this, they can seed new BPO and live is going forward.
But after reading several pages of unrevelant arguments written in this topic I didn't see any reason to change game mechanics. After it is easy to complain on moon minerals ratio, unfair blablabla..., complain on bad gallente ship, or bad amarr, depending of what ship you fly, complain on scamers because you are stupid and get scamed, conplaining on slow concord response time because you mine afk...
complaining is an easy hatitude.
make ISK and drive your world
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1148
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Posted - 2012.06.05 17:30:00 -
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@Pacifica Mata : that kind of reseeding would also remove the point of even having the inventor profession... http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T http://eve-search.com/stats/Akita_T T2 BPO poll : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789 |
shar'ra matcevsovski
Hedion University Amarr Empire
44
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:23:00 -
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lets face it, no idea who came up with that, but the BPC-compesnation Idea is just a really bad one, for so many reasons.
you have to consider the the changes you are looking for would only take in place WHEN these BPC`s are used in a cple years later. This solution would kill inventions aswell, since the amount of BPC`s would inflate the bpc market to death for quite a while. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1787
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:36:00 -
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Pacifica Mata wrote:Well I am not really surprise that for irrevelant reasons people complaining...
in RL ppl complaining about neightboors having better car, pretty wife, succes in their job, thinking it was to them to be successfull, to have the nice girl, so wishing higher tax on them, illness and so ;)
Here ppl complaining about game mechanics when they was not successfull. Yes it is, it's called life, that is. It was a lottery. In RL ppl complaining about lottery? of course not, they play once and once again.
Instead of trying to leverage by the bottom, why not seed T2 BPO again.
Let's take an example: CCP could analyze that for the size of TQ, there is a need of 2000 T2 small shield booster a day. They could know how many are producing from BPO T2, and how many are producing from invention.
They see there is a gap of 500 pieces a day, so let seed 20 BPO T2 of this and see production increasing and price decreasing (maybe).
Let have also T2 BPO disapearing, being transformed into BPC if not used for a certain amount of time (3, 6 months?) By this, they can seed new BPO and live is going forward.
But after reading several pages of unrevelant arguments written in this topic I didn't see any reason to change game mechanics. After it is easy to complain on moon minerals ratio, unfair blablabla..., complain on bad gallente ship, or bad amarr, depending of what ship you fly, complain on scamers because you are stupid and get scamed, conplaining on slow concord response time because you mine afk...
complaining is an easy hatitude.
make ISK and drive your world
If there's a gap of 500 units, the price will rise until enough people stop buying them or enough inventors start making them that the gap disappears. L3ARN 2 MicroEconomics. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1148
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:21:00 -
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shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:the amount of BPC`s would inflate the bpc market to death for quite a while. You can set a BPC's remaining runs higher than the normal max runs on a BPC in the system - proof that it is actually possible lies with older BPCs created before a reduction in max runs on certain items which actually have more runs than should be possible (and those were awesome to use for invention, because the obtained T2 BPC also had quite a few extra runs on it). Theoretically, CCP could just as well issue a single BPC with many thousands of runs on it (enough to last years of production) in lieu of each of the BPOs, as opposed to many small run count BPCs (which would indeed create the problem you describe). I mean, in case you really want to go the replacement route and want to keep the "damage" to minimum. Not that I would condone doing that. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T http://eve-search.com/stats/Akita_T T2 BPO poll : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789 |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
86
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Posted - 2012.06.06 14:20:00 -
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Akita T wrote:shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:the amount of BPC`s would inflate the bpc market to death for quite a while. You can set a BPC's remaining runs higher than the normal max runs on a BPC in the system - proof that it is actually possible lies with older BPCs created before a reduction in max runs on certain items which actually have more runs than should be possible (and those were awesome to use for invention, because the obtained T2 BPC also had quite a few extra runs on it). Theoretically, CCP could just as well issue a single BPC with many thousands of runs on it (enough to last years of production) in lieu of each of the BPOs, as opposed to many small run count BPCs (which would indeed create the problem you describe). I mean, in case you really want to go the replacement route and want to keep the "damage" to minimum. Not that I would condone doing that.
I thought replacing the BPO's with something that would be easily worth the cost of BPO but not allow owners to hammer out competition. A one off ship with something usefull for all security space. A ship with features that would warrant the 50billion + isk cost of current BPO's.
This was CCP's greatest mistake with T2BPO's introducing content that is worth trillions of isk without having trillions of isk of effort put in to obtain them. As this simply devalued the whole EVE experince and completely opposes the ''EVE is real CCP objective''. Yet again if you bought your BPO ignore I'm talking about those who were gited BPO's and ''won'' them in a lottery. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1797
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Posted - 2012.06.06 21:56:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Akita T wrote:shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:the amount of BPC`s would inflate the bpc market to death for quite a while. You can set a BPC's remaining runs higher than the normal max runs on a BPC in the system - proof that it is actually possible lies with older BPCs created before a reduction in max runs on certain items which actually have more runs than should be possible (and those were awesome to use for invention, because the obtained T2 BPC also had quite a few extra runs on it). Theoretically, CCP could just as well issue a single BPC with many thousands of runs on it (enough to last years of production) in lieu of each of the BPOs, as opposed to many small run count BPCs (which would indeed create the problem you describe). I mean, in case you really want to go the replacement route and want to keep the "damage" to minimum. Not that I would condone doing that. I thought replacing the BPO's with something that would be easily worth the cost of BPO but not allow owners to hammer out competition. A one off ship with something usefull for all security space. A ship with features that would warrant the 50billion + isk cost of current BPO's. This was CCP's greatest mistake with T2BPO's introducing content that is worth trillions of isk without having trillions of isk of effort put in to obtain them. As this simply devalued the whole EVE experince and completely opposes the ''EVE is real CCP objective''. Yet again if you bought your BPO ignore I'm talking about those who were gited BPO's and ''won'' them in a lottery.
What evidence do you have that BPO's have an effect on active markets?
Where are you getting "trillions of Isk"?
50b ships either cost that much due to rarity or mineral price. The Adrestia's a one off and is worth around that much. How much is a 3000 off ship gonna be worth? Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1149
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Posted - 2012.06.07 02:08:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Yet again if you bought your BPO ignore I'm talking about those who were gited BPO's and ''won'' them in a lottery. So, you're basically talking almost only to people that got prints so crappy that they didn't even bother trying to sell them ? The bulk of valuable BPOs changed hands at least once, probably many times. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T http://eve-search.com/stats/Akita_T T2 BPO poll : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789 |
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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
153
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Posted - 2012.06.07 05:03:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Yet again if you bought your BPO ignore I'm talking about those who were gited BPO's and ''won'' them in a lottery. The bulk of valuable BPOs changed hands at least once, but usually many more times. They got concentrated in the hands of alliances, alliance leaders, traders, collectors or massive industrialists in the times of decent T2 BPO ROI, before invention. So, you're basically talking mainly to people that got prints so crappy that they didn't even bother trying to sell them, and to the very few that actually held onto a valuable T2 BPO in spite of being offered a metric truckload of ISK for it. Good to know that your post basically does NOT apply to the owners of maybe 90% of T2 BPOs.
I think..
There is another, alternative solution.
Next Fanfest, CCP should have a Pinata filled with all the T2 BPO's in the game, and 2 wooden baseball bats, one for Akita and one for Brewlar, some blindfolds and lots of beer.
Whoever beats the BPO's out of the pinata first wins the argument! |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1798
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Posted - 2012.06.07 05:08:00 -
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Kara Books wrote:Akita T wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Yet again if you bought your BPO ignore I'm talking about those who were gited BPO's and ''won'' them in a lottery. The bulk of valuable BPOs changed hands at least once, but usually many more times. They got concentrated in the hands of alliances, alliance leaders, traders, collectors or massive industrialists in the times of decent T2 BPO ROI, before invention. So, you're basically talking mainly to people that got prints so crappy that they didn't even bother trying to sell them, and to the very few that actually held onto a valuable T2 BPO in spite of being offered a metric truckload of ISK for it. Good to know that your post basically does NOT apply to the owners of maybe 90% of T2 BPOs. I think.. There is another, alternative solution. Next Fanfest, CCP should have a Pinata filled with all the T2 BPO's in the game, and 2 wooden baseball bats, one for Akita and one for Brewlar, some blindfolds and lots of beer. Whoever beats the BPO's out of the pinata first wins the argument!
EvE Solution to ensure victory: Don't swing for the prize. Swing to incap the other guy's weapon. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
153
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Posted - 2012.06.07 06:36:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Kara Books wrote:Akita T wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Yet again if you bought your BPO ignore I'm talking about those who were gited BPO's and ''won'' them in a lottery. The bulk of valuable BPOs changed hands at least once, but usually many more times. They got concentrated in the hands of alliances, alliance leaders, traders, collectors or massive industrialists in the times of decent T2 BPO ROI, before invention. So, you're basically talking mainly to people that got prints so crappy that they didn't even bother trying to sell them, and to the very few that actually held onto a valuable T2 BPO in spite of being offered a metric truckload of ISK for it. Good to know that your post basically does NOT apply to the owners of maybe 90% of T2 BPOs. I think.. There is another, alternative solution. Next Fanfest, CCP should have a Pinata filled with all the T2 BPO's in the game, and 2 wooden baseball bats, one for Akita and one for Brewlar, some blindfolds and lots of beer. Whoever beats the BPO's out of the pinata first wins the argument! EvE Solution to ensure victory: Don't swing for the prize. Swing to incap the other guy's weapon.
as long as the baseballs are locked out of reach.
What where you talking about? |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1799
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Posted - 2012.06.07 06:47:00 -
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Kara Books wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Kara Books wrote:Akita T wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Yet again if you bought your BPO ignore I'm talking about those who were gited BPO's and ''won'' them in a lottery. The bulk of valuable BPOs changed hands at least once, but usually many more times. They got concentrated in the hands of alliances, alliance leaders, traders, collectors or massive industrialists in the times of decent T2 BPO ROI, before invention. So, you're basically talking mainly to people that got prints so crappy that they didn't even bother trying to sell them, and to the very few that actually held onto a valuable T2 BPO in spite of being offered a metric truckload of ISK for it. Good to know that your post basically does NOT apply to the owners of maybe 90% of T2 BPOs. I think.. There is another, alternative solution. Next Fanfest, CCP should have a Pinata filled with all the T2 BPO's in the game, and 2 wooden baseball bats, one for Akita and one for Brewlar, some blindfolds and lots of beer. Whoever beats the BPO's out of the pinata first wins the argument! EvE Solution to ensure victory: Don't swing for the prize. Swing to incap the other guy's weapon. as long as the baseballs are locked out of reach. What where you talking about?
A great Opportunity for CCP to enter the PPV market. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
88
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Posted - 2012.06.07 13:46:00 -
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This is a great idea for fan fest!
But only Akita should get a baseball to represent T2BPO. I should only get the opportunity to make a baseball bat that is limited to 5 swings but first I have to construct my 5 swing bat in a complex process involving a multitude of operations all while Akita is free to swing at the prize. My 5 swing bat should also have a negative -10% chance penalty at actually hitting the prize than Akita's bat.
This would be the EVE online and CCP way. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1802
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Posted - 2012.06.07 14:02:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:This is a great idea for fan fest!
But only Akita should get a baseball to represent T2BPO. I should only get the opportunity to make a baseball bat that is limited to 5 swings but first I have to construct my 5 swing bat in a complex process involving a multitude of operations all while Akita is free to swing at the prize. My 5 swing bat should also have a negative -10% chance penalty at actually hitting the prize than Akita's bat.
This would be the EVE online and CCP way.
So, T2 Mods created by invention don't work as well as the ones made by BPOs? Wow, who knew. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
154
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Posted - 2012.06.07 17:21:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:This is a great idea for fan fest!
But only Akita should get a baseball to represent T2BPO. I should only get the opportunity to make a baseball bat that is limited to 5 swings but first I have to construct my 5 swing bat in a complex process involving a multitude of operations all while Akita is free to swing at the prize. My 5 swing bat should also have a negative -10% chance penalty at actually hitting the prize than Akita's bat.
This would be the EVE online and CCP way.
Nice, nice. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
89
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Posted - 2012.06.07 20:45:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:This is a great idea for fan fest!
But only Akita should get a baseball to represent T2BPO. I should only get the opportunity to make a baseball bat that is limited to 5 swings but first I have to construct my 5 swing bat in a complex process involving a multitude of operations all while Akita is free to swing at the prize. My 5 swing bat should also have a negative -10% chance penalty at actually hitting the prize than Akita's bat.
This would be the EVE online and CCP way. So, T2 Mods created by invention don't work as well as the ones made by BPOs? Wow, who knew.
The 10% was reffering to BPC's -10 ME rating but you are right the items are not 10% less effective they just cost a crap ton more to produce. The rest of my anology was spot on. Fixed below. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
89
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Posted - 2012.06.07 20:50:00 -
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This is a great idea for fan fest!
But only Akita should get a baseball bat to represent T2BPO. I should only get the opportunity to make a baseball bat that is limited to 5 swings but first I have to construct my 5 swing bat in a complex process involving a multitude of operations all while Akita is free to swing at the prize. My 5 swing bat should also need 10% more wood but somehow be the same shape and size as Akita's bat.
This would be the EVE online and CCP way. |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide.
190
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:27:00 -
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Don't really get the point of these threads, no I don't own any T2 BPOs, they are a terrible investment.
I'm assuming the majoritory of the arguments against T2 BPOs are from people who can't afford them, as others would just buy them an keep quiet considering how great they are.
So assuming you are space poor and you think its unfair that some players have T2 BPOs, you might decide to complain and argue that they should be more readily available. If CCP decided to listen to you and suddenly T2 BPOs are seeded on the market relatively cheaply. Great, now you have a T2 BPO! Except whats this, they no make no money as everyone has them and you are still space poor, all you have done is made the players who bothered investing in them pissed off.
Yes maybe they could have been added to the game in a different way but its too late to change that, yes Invention could do with a bit of a buff to make it less of a click fest, yes higher MEs might be a good idea from invention. No Removing T2 BPOs is not a reasonable solution.
Eve isn't fair, it will never be, this would not change that.
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Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
89
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Posted - 2012.06.10 19:41:00 -
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The point was that content was put into the game that effects a huge stake in the market yet is no longer being given out. It would have been ok if the items had some sort of end date but they do not. |
shar'ra matcevsovski
Hedion University Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2012.06.10 20:16:00 -
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cute, whenever the thread keeps calming down, brewlar bumps it after some time...
Quote:The point was that content was put into the game that effects a huge stake in the market yet is no longer being given out. It would have been ok if the items had some sort of end date but they do not.
how many times ppl have to show you, that they dont affect a huge part of the market? |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
89
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Posted - 2012.06.11 12:06:00 -
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I've made it perfectly clear that I intend to bump the T2BPO point. T2BPO moan threads are here to stay at the top of the forum untill the issue is resolved. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
89
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Posted - 2012.06.11 12:09:00 -
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shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
how many times ppl have to show you, that they dont affect a huge part of the market?
Because 70% of T2 line is not huge? Uhm ok keep telling yourself that T2BPO was not a huge mistake.
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Diana Kim
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
45
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Posted - 2012.06.11 13:08:00 -
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I was producing a lot of t2 modules some time ago. It was very profitable disregarding existent BPOs. Of course, production of some modules was more expensive than available in market because of these BPOs (for example, shield boost amplifiers II), but still lots iskies can be made regardless through invention provided you have time for all the hard work. I believe that the only reason for removal of t2 bpos is hatred to their owners.
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Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
89
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Posted - 2012.06.11 13:10:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:I was producing a lot of t2 modules some time ago. It was very profitable disregarding existent BPOs. Of course, production of some modules was more expensive than available in market because of these BPOs (for example, shield boost amplifiers II), but still lots iskies can be made regardless through invention provided you have time for all the hard work. I believe that the only reason for removal of t2 bpos is hatred to their owners.
No the hatred stems from CCP gifting items and propping choesn corps and allinces up with a fountain of other gifts other than T2BPO. T2BPO is however a gift that is a direct pain in the ass to anyone wanting to build T2 for profit. Yes there are a lines where invention can compete but it's still totaly bullshit that ccp has given chosen corps monoply in some fields. |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1034
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Posted - 2012.06.11 13:21:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Diana Kim wrote:I was producing a lot of t2 modules some time ago. It was very profitable disregarding existent BPOs. Of course, production of some modules was more expensive than available in market because of these BPOs (for example, shield boost amplifiers II), but still lots iskies can be made regardless through invention provided you have time for all the hard work. I believe that the only reason for removal of t2 bpos is hatred to their owners.
No the hatred stems from CCP gifting items and propping choesn corps and allinces up with a fountain of other gifts other than T2BPO. T2BPO is however a gift that is a direct pain in the ass to anyone wanting to build T2 for profit. Yes there are a lines where invention can compete but it's still totaly bullshit that ccp has given chosen corps monoply in some fields.
Whats it like to blindly strive on in your T2 BPO quest despite being bludgeoned half to death with logic, reason and common sense? My homeboys tried to warn me But that butt you got makes me so horny |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
89
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Posted - 2012.06.11 13:28:00 -
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It's like playing baseball except my team is not allowed a bat. Anyway it's all just a game and is supposed to be fun. Well it's a job for CCP but they must be happy with current player subscriptions otherwise they'd have removed T2BPO and let the game grow by now.
''This is a great idea for fan fest!
But only Akita should get a baseball bat to represent T2BPO. I should only get the opportunity to make a baseball bat that is limited to 5 swings but first I have to construct my 5 swing bat in a complex process involving a multitude of operations all while Akita is free to swing at the prize. My 5 swing bat should also need 10% more wood but somehow be the same shape and size as Akita's bat.
This would be the EVE online and CCP way.'' |
shar'ra matcevsovski
Hedion University Amarr Empire
46
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:01:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
how many times ppl have to show you, that they dont affect a huge part of the market?
Because 70% of T2 line is not huge? Uhm ok keep telling yourself that T2BPO was not a huge mistake.
Numbers dont lie, prove mathematicly that 70% of all T2 itmes are made by T2 BPO`s or leave it forever.
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote: I've made it perfectly clear that I intend to bump the T2BPO point. T2BPO moan threads are here to stay at the top of the forum untill the issue is resolved.
Ok, so what your saying is, that since you cant win this discussion with arguments or evidences, you will terrorize us with your moan threads till CCP does what little brewlar wants?
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1860
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Posted - 2012.06.11 15:22:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Diana Kim wrote:I was producing a lot of t2 modules some time ago. It was very profitable disregarding existent BPOs. Of course, production of some modules was more expensive than available in market because of these BPOs (for example, shield boost amplifiers II), but still lots iskies can be made regardless through invention provided you have time for all the hard work. I believe that the only reason for removal of t2 bpos is hatred to their owners.
No the hatred stems from CCP gifting items and propping choesn corps and allinces up with a fountain of other gifts other than T2BPO. T2BPO is however a gift that is a direct pain in the ass to anyone wanting to build T2 for profit. Yes there are a lines where invention can compete but it's still totaly bullshit that ccp has given chosen corps monoply in some fields.
Got any evidence that the lottery was rigged towards members of certain corps or alliances?
Other than the T20 issue, where the BPOs were removed from the game. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
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