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Azrael Dinn
The 20th Legion Mildly Sober
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Posted - 2012.04.19 13:56:00 -
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+1
Or add a new way to get originals fairly. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
50
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Posted - 2012.04.19 22:13:00 -
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Azrael Dinn wrote:+1
Or add a new way to get originals fairly.
Last thing we need is more of them a swift removal is what is required. |
Azrael Dinn
The 20th Legion Mildly Sober
5
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Posted - 2012.04.20 06:36:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Azrael Dinn wrote:+1
Or add a new way to get originals fairly. Last thing we need is more of them a swift removal is what is required.
Well whats the problem in it if everyone could get one some way? |
Lara Dantreb
New Horizons
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:18:00 -
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Cardval Simalia wrote:I always wondered how people got T2BPO's kinda sux knowing that most got theirs easily and now you have to pay them billions to get one. Also invention should be made to undercut the BPO to make it worth while to invent.
Never got a bpo from agent, I bought them all. I still buy them. When I started EVE, I bet that Tech 2 would be the future and soon started a POS network for T2 components wich extended to 35 POS in Alparena 0.1 system. I run that network from 2005 to 2007. I made my wealth selling T2 comps to T2 bpo owners and started buying T2 ship bpos for myself. When invention was implemented I had something like 35.000.000 T2 components in stock, I made a killing by selling them at high prices to the new upcoming inventors. I bought more T2 ship bpos
I invented also and produced thousands of ships this way. I bought even more T2 ship bpos thanks to invention What is killing invention now are not the T2 bpos but the moon material prices. When I made inventions I produced regularly from ME-3 T2 ship bpcs. Now you don't make a profit from ME:-1/ME:-2 because the wastage factor has become too expansive
It's fun for me to collect T2 ship bpos, there is nothing as expansive to collect in EVE, I don't care about titans and officer mods... it's even funnier to know that it bothers other players, I don't kill hulks to grief people, I buy and collect T2 bpos !
I'm bored to read these stupid "remove T2 bpos" threads, the hater posters don't even understand what they talk about, bad faith is everywhere in their posts
Inventors would better ask to implement the possibility to invent Adrestias, Vangels, Mimirs... I think it's very unfair that these wonders are so rare ----á-á Buying T2 ship bpos since 2005-á --- --- -á-á-á-á-á-á WTB Occator Bpo, 85 Bil-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á --- |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
50
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Posted - 2012.04.20 11:14:00 -
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Lara Dantreb wrote:Cardval Simalia wrote:I always wondered how people got T2BPO's kinda sux knowing that most got theirs easily and now you have to pay them billions to get one. Also invention should be made to undercut the BPO to make it worth while to invent. Never got a bpo from agent, I bought them all. I still buy them. When I started EVE, I bet that Tech 2 would be the future and soon started a POS network for T2 components wich extended to 35 POS in Alparena 0.1 system. I run that network from 2005 to 2007. I made my wealth selling T2 comps to T2 bpo owners and started buying T2 ship bpos for myself. When invention was implemented I had something like 35.000.000 T2 components in stock, I made a killing by selling them at high prices to the new upcoming inventors. I bought more T2 ship bpos I invented also and produced thousands of ships this way. I bought even more T2 ship bpos thanks to invention What is killing invention now are not the T2 bpos but the moon material prices. When I made inventions I produced regularly from ME-3 T2 ship bpcs. Now you don't make a profit from ME:-1/ME:-2 because the wastage factor has become too expansive It's fun for me to collect T2 ship bpos, there is nothing as expansive to collect in EVE, I don't care about titans and officer mods... it's even funnier to know that it bothers other players, I don't need to kill hulks and industrials to grief people, I buy and collect T2 bpos ! I'm bored to read these stupid "remove T2 bpos" threads, the hater posters don't even understand what they talk about, bad faith is everywhere in their posts Inventors would better ask to implement the possibility to invent Adrestias, Vangels, Mimirs... I think it's very unfair that these wonders are so rare
Yet again I don't mean to attack those who bought or worked for their BPO as my post details. However I do think those that were gifted them should be removed. They are OP and CCP's releascing of select stats proves it.
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Salo Aldeland
Luma Operations
14
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Posted - 2012.04.20 13:22:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:They are OP and CCP's releascing of select stats proves it.
Which stats are these?
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March rabbit
Trojan Trolls Red Alliance
155
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Posted - 2012.04.20 13:29:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Stella SGP wrote:nom nom nom MOAR TEARS! Quotes from supporters of T2BPO. As you can see they are idiots. Still not a single reason for keeping them not one. 1st and enough reason: they are exist already. So YOU have to give good reasons why those T2BPOs should disappear.
By now you only throwing some kind of crap about CCP pets, mafia and other tales. Give 1(!!!) good reason then we will talk. Noone wants to listen to your nightmares.
Elsewere - you ARE troll. Gratz. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
50
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Posted - 2012.04.20 13:35:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Stella SGP wrote:nom nom nom MOAR TEARS! Quotes from supporters of T2BPO. As you can see they are idiots. Still not a single reason for keeping them not one. 1st and enough reason: they are exist already. So YOU have to give good reasons why those T2BPOs should disappear. By now you only throwing some kind of crap about CCP pets, mafia and other tales. Give 1(!!!) good reason then we will talk. Noone wants to listen to your nightmares. Elsewere - you ARE troll. Gratz.
Bots exist lets keep them?
STFU
Next question?
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Lara Dantreb
New Horizons
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Posted - 2012.04.20 15:02:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Bots exist lets keep them?
STFU
Next question?
Bots are against EULA. Compare what can be compared.
Anyway, reading your posts I see a general lack of sense, a will to judge from a very partial knowledge of EVE Online history and gameplay, and a dire misunderstanding of the game mechanics... ----á-á Buying T2 ship bpos since 2005-á --- --- -á-á-á-á-á-á WTB Occator Bpo, 85 Bil-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á --- |
Andar Makanen
HISec Seniors Clan
0
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Posted - 2012.04.22 13:13:00 -
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Maybe it was locked because it's beating a dead horse. |
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Katerwaul
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.23 04:56:00 -
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So tired of seeing these proposals in here that I've submitted a proposal to the Features & Ideas Discussion to have them banned from this forum. I don't even have the energy for a sarcastic, witty reply.
Like I've said before...
"Katerwaul" wrote:I'm glad I missed all of the drama that ensued during my hiatus last year and avoided the invidia and avaritia that seems to have poisoned so many with such ira.
The dead horse became a bag of glue long ago. Feel free to stop kicking it whenever you'd like. Working with everyone to improve New Eden -- Internet Spaceships Iz Serious Business. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
50
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Posted - 2012.04.24 13:01:00 -
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You think because T2BPO has been broken for a long time we should just leave it? Many things have been broken in eve and took years to fix. T2BPO is broken it always has been and one day it will be fixed probably when CCP realize what a terrible advert it is for the game and how it deters people from subbing further when they realize that T2BPO gifts get handed out by CCP to their pet players that negatively effect the way they play the game ie through invention.
The people who rally to the forums to dismiss these threads are those who benefit from CCP's hand outs and they provide nothing but insults to defend T2BPO's. I don't blame them as it is really hard to justify the existence of these items and it takes no effort to bash them as they are so clearly broken, my first post in this thread provides these details. |
Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Intrepid Crossing
254
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Posted - 2012.04.24 14:01:00 -
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I really wish blocking posts from someone blocked threads they create so I didn't have to see this idiot thread anymore. Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour! |
Jon Taggart
State War Academy Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:07:00 -
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Akita T's thread on this subject cannot be posted enough.
Link
Go ahead. Refute them. If you dare! |
Haulie Berry
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:18:00 -
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Jon Taggart wrote:Akita T's thread on this subject cannot be posted enough. Link Go ahead. Refute them. If you dare!
A noble effort, but wasted.
I mean, really, have you read the guy's posts?
Quote:...it deters people from subbing further when they realize that T2BPO gifts get handed out by CCP to their pet players...
His position is so indefensible that he's just... making things up at this point. You're not dealing with an intelligent, rational mind that will respond to petty trifles like "facts" and "logic" - you're dealing with an infant child who is going to scream and cry until they get their way or are all cried out. |
Lara Dantreb
New Horizons
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Posted - 2012.04.24 18:44:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:You think because T2BPO has been broken for a long time we should just leave it? Many things have been broken in eve and took years to fix. T2BPO is broken it always has been and one day it will be fixed probably when CCP realize what a terrible advert it is for the game and how it deters people from subbing further when they realize that T2BPO gifts get handed out by CCP to their pet players that negatively effect the way they play the game ie through invention
The people who rally to the forums to dismiss these threads are those who benefit from CCP's hand outs and they provide nothing but insults to defend T2BPO's. I don't blame them as it is really hard to justify the existence of these items and it takes no effort to bash them as they are so clearly broken, my first post in this thread provides these details.
This is you very own point of view. As stated before this a been debated FOR YEARS and things will not change, because the debate is over already. Clever and respected people (i.e : Akita T) have already posted on this subject and a consensus has been reached
You are alone thinking this way and whatever we could say to explain why you are wrong... well, there is no deaf as those who will not hear.
EDIT : please moderator, lock this thread for trolling ----á-á Buying T2 ship bpos since 2005-á --- --- -á-á-á-á-á-á WTB Occator Bpo, 110+ Bil-á-á-á-á-á --- |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
50
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Posted - 2012.04.24 20:44:00 -
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''Newer players have the exact same options to get a T2 BPO as a very old player with no T2 BPOs has to get one : just purchase it with ISK.'' Akita T
First line of her post, ehm no new players don't get
A. Option to win a corrupt lottery B. Gifted items for free by CCP C. Gifted items for free by a member of CCP D. Have access to Rats that drop T2BPO
If Akita T wishes to answer to this let her or if anyone else would like to explain
''Newer players have the exact same options to get a T2 BPO as a very old player with no T2 BPOs has to get one : just purchase it with ISK.''
then please do.
Remove T2BPO |
Stella SGP
195
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Posted - 2012.04.24 21:24:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:''Newer players have the exact same options to get a T2 BPO as a very old player with no T2 BPOs has to get one : just purchase it with ISK.'' Akita T
First line of her post, ehm no new players don't get
A. Option to win a corrupt lottery B. Gifted items for free by CCP C. Gifted items for free by a member of CCP D. Have access to Rats that drop T2BPO
If Akita T wishes to answer to this let her or if anyone else would like to explain
''Newer players have the exact same options to get a T2 BPO as a very old player with no T2 BPOs has to get one : just purchase it with ISK.''
then please do.
Remove T2BPO Yawn... Nothing new to see here.
The reason why you get nothing but insults in reply to your whine is because it is exactly what it is, whining. You are not bringing your points to the table in a rational manner. All you are doing is throwing around wild accusations and WA WA WA crying. You really expected someone to waste their braincells to respond?
Did you bother reading the whole thread by Akita or did you stop after the first line? Some of the best minds in EVE argued their points in that thread, regardless of whether its for or against. Anything and everything has already been discussed to death in Akita's thread and no-one can be bothered to regurgitate this stuff over and over and over again everytime some clueless guy starts a thread about it. People get tired you know.
Need a hug? Only 2 mil per minute. |
Haulie Berry
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Posted - 2012.04.24 21:24:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
A. Option to win a corrupt lottery B. Gifted items for free by CCP C. Gifted items for free by a member of CCP D. Have access to Rats that drop T2BPO
[citation needed]
You do understand that your wholly fictional history of T2BPO's does not make for a valid argument, yes? |
Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2012.04.24 21:33:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote: ''Newer players have the exact same options to get a T2 BPO as a very old player with no T2 BPOs has to get one : just purchase it with ISK.''
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Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
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Posted - 2012.04.24 21:37:00 -
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Five Thirty wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote: ''Newer players have the exact same options to get a T2 BPO as a very old player with no T2 BPOs has to get one : just purchase it with ISK.''
was here for the lottery but didnt win, bought some with isk that i made from invention.. working as intended CCP-áare full of words and no action. We will watch what they are doing, for now
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Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
50
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Posted - 2012.04.24 22:51:00 -
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If Akita T's first line was not complete rubbish it would make her article worth reading. i read the whole thing but sadly it goes from the first line being complete rubbish all the way through to the end. |
Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2012.04.24 22:53:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:If Akita T's first line was not complete rubbish it would make her article worth reading. i read the whole thing but sadly it goes from the first line being complete rubbish all the way through to the end.
Since you are obviously unable to use logic and / or reason, it has become clear that you are just trolling.
Decent bit of work getting so many bites, so cheers on that at least.
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Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
50
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Posted - 2012.04.24 22:56:00 -
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Five Thirty wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:If Akita T's first line was not complete rubbish it would make her article worth reading. i read the whole thing but sadly it goes from the first line being complete rubbish all the way through to the end. Since you are obviously unable to use logic and / or reason, it has become clear that you are just trolling. Decent bit of work getting so many bites, so cheers on that at least.
Yet again more ''trolling'' blah blah blah not one single reason for keeping T2BPO. Every argument points to removing only CCP pets keep defending T2BPO. |
Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2012.04.24 23:00:00 -
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Let me explain it very simply to you:
What is stopping you from buying your very own T2BPO and joining in on this endless revenue stream you seem to think spouts from each and every one?
I know many people who own T2BPOs and every single one of them were purchased with ISK, which they earned by doing other profit making activities.
It sounds like you're just too lazy to do the work required. |
Haulie Berry
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Posted - 2012.04.24 23:05:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Where as in my posts I'm 100% truthfull as you can see from the original post. I'd like to see people argues against the facts but they simply can only insult as my facts are sound and as stated T2BPO needs removed if CCP is to shed its corrupt small game dev image. CCP or EVE will not be able to grow into anything more untill T2BPO are removed.
I like how you continually refer to your entirely fictitious history of BPO distribution as "fact".
You've progressed from ignorance to outright lies. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
50
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Posted - 2012.04.24 23:10:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Where as in my posts I'm 100% truthfull as you can see from the original post. I'd like to see people argues against the facts but they simply can only insult as my facts are sound and as stated T2BPO needs removed if CCP is to shed its corrupt small game dev image. CCP or EVE will not be able to grow into anything more untill T2BPO are removed. I like how you continually refer to your entirely fictitious history of BPO distribution as "fact". You've progressed from ignorance to outright lies.
Sorry where did I lie?
Please stop slandering. Anyone who supports T2BPO is not familiar with fact so please indulge me. |
Haulie Berry
21
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Posted - 2012.04.24 23:16:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Haulie Berry wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Where as in my posts I'm 100% truthfull as you can see from the original post. I'd like to see people argues against the facts but they simply can only insult as my facts are sound and as stated T2BPO needs removed if CCP is to shed its corrupt small game dev image. CCP or EVE will not be able to grow into anything more untill T2BPO are removed. I like how you continually refer to your entirely fictitious history of BPO distribution as "fact". You've progressed from ignorance to outright lies. Sorry where did I lie? Please stop slandering. Anyone who supports T2BPO is not familiar with fact so please indulge me.
...pretty much all of it. You assert that the lottery was "corrupt". Prove it was corrupt.
You assert that T2 BPOs were dropped by rats. When was this? The only BPOs ever distributed through any means other than the lottery were Miner IIs. They were distributed as part of an in-game event. So when, then, were they ever dropped by rats? At which point in the game's history could I fit up a ship, fly to a belt, pop a rat and get a T2 BPO? Which rats?, in which regions? Which BPOs were dropped?
You assert that CCP handed BPOs to players. The only occurrence of this that I am aware of is the T20 scandal. Those BPOs were recovered and redistributed via lottery, thus can no longer be said to be in the hands of anyone who gained them illegitimately. |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
53
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Posted - 2012.04.24 23:29:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:--troll bait snipped--
Assuming you're not an alt of the troll, why on earth are you feeding it?
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Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
50
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Posted - 2012.04.24 23:51:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Haulie Berry wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Where as in my posts I'm 100% truthfull as you can see from the original post. I'd like to see people argues against the facts but they simply can only insult as my facts are sound and as stated T2BPO needs removed if CCP is to shed its corrupt small game dev image. CCP or EVE will not be able to grow into anything more untill T2BPO are removed. I like how you continually refer to your entirely fictitious history of BPO distribution as "fact". You've progressed from ignorance to outright lies. Sorry where did I lie? Please stop slandering. Anyone who supports T2BPO is not familiar with fact so please indulge me. ...pretty much all of it. You assert that the lottery was "corrupt". Support this assertion. How was it corrupt? Were players gifted RPs they didn't earn? Was the RNG intentionally flawed? What evidence do you have to support this? You assert that T2 BPOs were dropped by rats. When was this? The only BPOs ever distributed through any means other than the lottery were Miner IIs. They were distributed as part of an in-game event. So when, then, were they ever dropped by rats? At which point in the game's history could I fit up a ship, fly to a belt, pop a rat and get a T2 BPO? Which rats?, in which regions? Which BPOs were dropped? You assert that CCP handed BPOs to players. The only occurrence of this that I am aware of is the T20 scandal. Those BPOs were recovered and redistributed via lottery, thus can no longer be said to be in the hands of anyone who gained them illegitimately.
I'm not sure how much evidence I can provide with out being banned as CCP does ban you for revealing facts on T2BPO. Possibly we need some CCP dev clarification on what facts I can reveal whith out being banned.
Needless to say T2BPO were given to players as assets. The lottery was corrupt in the fact that its workings and details were revealed to select players. Primarly how many tickets in each lottery and how many BPO's in each lottery. This was a massive advantage to players in the know. Yes mining T2BPO's were dropped in events. T20 scandal was the unothorised BPO hand out but these BPO's were recovred.
CCP should give a complete list of current T2BPO and their original owners plus the exact amount of T2 and copies produced of them so we can 100% account for all T2BPO problems. |
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