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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Fates United
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Posted - 2009.06.09 00:40:00 -
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Although not a pirate myself, I really -really- enjoyed your guide. It's almost temping me to let out the occasional 'yar' myself.
I'd love to see an updated version :)
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Akina Nidaras
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.06.11 07:11:00 -
[152]
The link for the online version is 404 ( http://www.eve-fit.co.uk/resources.php?a=piracy ) |
jaybo34
Caldari Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.16 11:38:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Skira Ranos Edited by: Skira Ranos on 24/05/2009 14:57:49
Mitnal: as much as I liked the idea of EVElopedia to begin with, and initially wished to support CCPs push for it, it seems you all have failed to understand what really makes wiki's work: the contributors MUST do it on their own accord. They are community efforts; when we create pages, we do so to help others, NOT to help the parent corporation that owns the game we love. If you feel EVElopedia is being underutilized, that is no-one's failing but your own.
Forcing people to help you with an ineffective idea is NOT the way to improve it. I don't claim to know exactly how to improve it, but this certainly isn't it. This, in fact, is one of the best way to alienate otherwise helpful people like myself. I would gladly have ported this over to EVElopedia IN ADDITION to keeping it here, for example. As it is, your blunt, desperate strongarm tactics (barely short of outright bullying) have cause me to rethink my support.
This guide will not be moving over to EVElopedia, and I calmly ask that no one else do so for me. I will find and alternative way to promote it and continue it's existence.
Thank you all for your support thus far, and I am sorry Mitnal. I do not mean for this to be any kind of declaration of war or hostility, merely representative of the fact that I strongly disagree with CCP's underhanded tactics with regards to EVElopedia and I will not bow to them.
-Skira
I don't like your tone , are you stressed in real life again ? . |
MrDon Logan
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Posted - 2009.06.18 16:35:00 -
[154]
Outstanding work mate! A valuable resource for me, thanks!
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Tempo Paradiso
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Posted - 2009.06.19 14:42:00 -
[155]
Great guide. Even a carebear can learn something from this. |
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.27 19:35:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Skira Ranos Edited by: Skira Ranos on 24/05/2009 14:57:49
This guide will not be moving over to EVElopedia, and I calmly ask that no one else do so for me. I will find and alternative way to promote it and continue it's existence.
Skira Ranos, I see your reasoning for wanting to keep this thread here. Unfortunately it can not remain a sticky and will be unglued in a week. This thread will not be deleted but I can compromise and put a link to it on the resource thread. This will only be a temporary fix because eventually even that resource thread will be moved over to the EVElopedia. I highly urge you to make a copy of your guide there.
You might like to check out this guide on the EVElopedia to get started on making a new page. There is also a FAQ to help you out.
Zymurgist Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact Us
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Vivien Sureflight
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Posted - 2009.06.27 22:40:00 -
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It seems you're filling Mitnal's boots already, Zymurg.
Here's what I don't understand: Why remove stickies at all? Isn't the whole point of a sticky to be important reading that may not be read otherwise? I don't personally know anyone who uses EVElopedia. That means that this guide (which I would argue is important reading) would basically fall in the gutter. Not only has that then defeated the purpose of the sticky to begin with, but it also leaves the EVE community worse off.
I understand the need to remove stickies that no longer attract any interest. That makes sense. But this thread is obviously still alive; it's gotten more than 10,000 views in the last 30 days. That's more than 300 views a day, which is more than most threads get in a week.
My point is that it's stupid to remove an active sticky, CCP policies or not. I'm sure Skira wouldn't mind making a page on EVElopedia as well (he's stated such) provided this link stays where it is. And hey, I'm sure he'd agree that if this sticky becomes inactive you would be within your rights to remove it. But that hasn't happened yet.
You know what? You could start a poll in C&P as to whether this sticky should be removed. Maybe that would show whether it should go or not.
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Enden Assulu
Caldari Blood Money Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.30 23:38:00 -
[158]
Edited by: Enden Assulu on 30/06/2009 23:37:57 I have to say you are showing a wonderfully brilliant disregard for the communities views which is brilliant, thank you for reading our posts and deriving a sensible out come.
Click the image! |
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.06 14:24:00 -
[159]
This thread is being unstickied. There is a link to it on the resource page so it can still be viewed. If anyone ports this to EVELopedia please post in the resource thread so that link may be added.
Zymurgist Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact Us
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RedSplat
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.06 14:25:00 -
[160]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist This thread is being unstickied. There is a link to it on the resource page so it can still be viewed. If anyone ports this to EVELopedia please post in the resource thread so that link may be added.
Didnt Mitnal (the good mod) already do this?
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.06 22:01:00 -
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I just wanted to say that this was the guide that gave me the confidence to go out into that hell hole that is low sec and begin shooting people. This is really the only thread that deserves to be stickied in C&P (yes that includes the pirate stories thread because its a horrible idea and it doesn't work). Plus as previous people stated its one of the most viewed threads on the forums. Also who is going to go to evelopidia or however you spell it and look for this guide. And finally when all the threads are made about how do you pirate because this guide was removed...well lets just say I told you so.
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Mehira Am'kul
Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.07 06:40:00 -
[162]
This guide is the reason I started playing EVE online and I'm having a blast! It's full of inspiration and useful info for the new player.
Thank you Skira
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:42:00 -
[163]
Bump for greatness... sticky would make more sense but noooooooooo.
The quality of my replies is directly related to the QQuality of the opÆs comments |
Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:52:00 -
[164]
Bump. Put it back where it belongs. De-sticky-ing it just for the sake of following the Official Forum Policy, even when it's against the best interests of the community, is just stupid. ==========
Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
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Sabriele
Amarr H.I.V.E.
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Posted - 2009.07.07 18:50:00 -
[165]
DIY sticky.. kinda.
Give this guide more masking tape, its freakin awesome
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Misanth
Reaper Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.07 22:34:00 -
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CCP does what any reasonable company worth its salt does; promote their own things they want promoted. EVEntually people will be info-starved and start use the crappy EVElopedia. Killing off stickies is step one.
The very least thing they could do would be to make it alot easier to access, and better to search. But what the hell am I asking for really, they can't even get the search-function to work on these forums..
Either way this guide deserved a better faith. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
Capt Minor
Amarr Minority Crusaders
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Posted - 2009.07.07 22:58:00 -
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1. Thx a lot Skira . Its a very good guide. For new as old players. For wannabe pirates, pirates and antipirates as well.
2. EVElopedia is a nice compilation of knowledge and guides about EVE.
3. I think this guide should just keep its sticky and also hopefully be ported to EVElopedia
4. The next bounty I get I will donate to you Skira.
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.08 04:48:00 -
[168]
Daily bump even though this thread shouldn't require one.
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Kerovan
Gallente Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2009.07.08 20:13:00 -
[169]
This is a great read. I am glad I read it back in the day.
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Vivien Sureflight
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:39:00 -
[170]
Bumped up to the top. Come on, people, keep commenting on this thread to keep it at the top. If CCP won't sticky it for us, LET THE PEOPLE DO IT INSTEAD.
Join a worthy cause. __________________________________
Give a man some fire and he'll be warm for a day. SET a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life... |
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Damian LeRoi
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Posted - 2009.07.09 06:03:00 -
[171]
Bumpity-Bump. Doing my bit.
This is ..THE.. guide to read and swear by!
wooot! |
Roastedpot
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.09 10:41:00 -
[172]
we have an evelopidia?,,
oh and da-bumpage for a sticky worthy thread
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RedSplat
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.09 10:51:00 -
[173]
I dont think people want to use your Evelopedia for everything, fancy that
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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Kaz Toffy
Caldari Boom.Roasted
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Posted - 2009.07.09 11:08:00 -
[174]
Well this guide is the only reason I actually started playing EvE. Let alone me being a freakin noob I still want to see it at the top...it deserves to stay sticky.
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ALex Vega
Caldari Genesis Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.09 18:35:00 -
[175]
Bring This post up!
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Alexandra Stormwing
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Posted - 2009.07.10 06:09:00 -
[176]
Just came back from a roam with some piratical friends. Bagged an Ishtar, a Drake, a Curse, a Raven, and liberated a second Raven when the pilot ejected and ran for it. I would never have had this kind of fun in Eve without having first been inspired by this guide. Re-sticky, or the kitten gets it.
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Psir
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Posted - 2009.07.10 07:13:00 -
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Bump,
Sticky this again, policies should not be enforced for the sake of enforcing policies.
This is a great guide, in fact it's the only decent one and if CCP truly wants to support new players in grasping the ropes of this game, with its many unspoken ways, then they should re-sticky this thread.
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Mickey Simon
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.07.10 08:12:00 -
[178]
Edited by: Mickey Simon on 10/07/2009 08:14:09 There's so much stuff on these boards that is of the same high quality as the intro to piracy in amongst the crap that makes up the majority of posts.
Would you have them sticky every quality post to make it easier for everyone to find? There's a heap of posts there, it makes far more sense from a UI perspective to have a sticky that categorises the various important posts and links to them. Oh wait, that already exists.
The guide is clearly listed in the sticky that lists guides and CCP have obviously made their choice (which makes a lot of sense, the quality of C&P is terrible enough without having 500 stickies).
Yes, the guide is good. Yes, it deserves to be promoted - as do a number of other guides. No, it doesn't deserve it's own sticky.
The people complaining about it and demanding it be stickied again as it's own sticky really do look like children screaming for candy in the supermarket. Grow up. edit: Yes, a guy who has Hard Gay in his signature is telling you to grow up. Seriously.
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.10 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: Psir Bump,
Sticky this again, policies should not be enforced for the sake of enforcing policies.
This is a great guide, in fact it's the only decent one and if CCP truly wants to support new players in grasping the ropes of this game, with its many unspoken ways, then they should re-sticky this thread.
This exactly in my opinion. *BUMP!*
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Guru Saurfang
Highlanders. Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2009.07.10 09:04:00 -
[180]
Bump this for stikyness
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