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KingDiomedes
Caldari Shadow Company Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.29 21:49:00 -
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Is it me or have ccp literally taken all our dps away, we cant solo pvp as we have to use mid slots for tank so cant fit webs points and mwds etc. Our missiles hit for nothing now and take 5 years to hit our targets. We cant use very many drones. Other races even have em shield resistances as a base, caldari shield tank and dont have any i mean wtf. The only thing we have is ecm, tbh id rather be able you hit with torps from 50km away or use rage hams from 50 km away. why is it other races can change long/short range ammo for the same gun but we have to change launchers if we want to use differant missiles. come on ccp sort this out pls give us higher dps you are killing our race. everyone knows now u dont pick caldari if u want to pvp or have dps
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Nephilius
Caldari General Taktiks and Holdings
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Posted - 2008.11.29 22:02:00 -
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I've heard about all sorts of things, from the nerfing of ships to the aforementioned fact that you don't pick Caldari for PvP. I don't know, being a relatively new player, I do have to try and take a grain of salt with everything. The missile nerf is really one of the only things I have gotten to experience, so I don't know really. I guess for me, time will tell.
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James Malice
Gallente concord capsuleer command and control
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Posted - 2008.11.29 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: KingDiomedes Is it me or have ccp literally taken all our dps away,
Hah hah... taken all our DPS away... that's a riot... that's like a homeless man saying the government is taking all his money away... he has no money to speak of!
MWA HAHAHAHAHA! caldari DPS, what a laugh,
Originally by: MooKids I like them, I have an elite rating in HULL TANKING! That is like saying I can block punches with my face.
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KingDiomedes
Caldari Shadow Company Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.29 22:23:00 -
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caldari torps used to go hell of a lot further and so were more useful than they are now, but ur response is exactly what i mean caldari are useless at pvp and have no dps so why cant ccp stop nerfing us even more and realise they are killing caldari
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fllow
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Posted - 2008.11.29 22:54:00 -
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ok. ok. caldari dosnt have omgwtfpwnage dps but what it lacks in dps it makes up for in a few VERY good areas.
they do not need a buff. if any thing this "nerf" was well deserved as in the role they are "meant" to be played in. they do far to well compared to other races.
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KingDiomedes
Caldari Shadow Company Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.29 23:58:00 -
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caldari are only good in ec, and thats it, the nerf was supposed to mean that the fast ships couldnt speed tank so it gave ships a fighting chance which i agreed with. Then ccp go and nerf our javelins and precisions which were the only things that did any dmg to small ships now they do nothing so again caldari loose out because we cant hit anything and when we do its takes that long to hit they have gone, they also do no dmg i mean i hit a vaga last night with cruise missiles in my raven, i have 4 million sp in missiles and i did 4 dmg i mean wtf !!! the speed patch was supposed to nerf speed tankers but once again ccp have nerfed caldari again !!!
so whats the point in training caldari or missiles?? waste of time race if u ask me nice one ccp
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Sir Substance
Minmatar MagiTech Alliance Inc. MagiTech Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.30 00:11:00 -
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caldari have the best ewar, some of the best defences, dont have to deal with tracking VS range, if its within their missile range they can hit it.
speaking of missiles, caldari ships like the raven can have some of the longest ranges in the game.
caldari have their place in PvP.
in addition, there is nothing stopping you from crosstraining. - PvPers always say "GB2WoW". the message is that EVE is hard, and people just need to deal with it. wasn't it funny how when nano's started making it hard for *them*, that all went out the window? |
fllow
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Posted - 2008.11.30 00:11:00 -
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well..... speaking from experiance what you have said proves that you being silly. of coarse a cruise misile wouldnt hit a speed tanked vaga....
now put it this way. when these speed tanked vage comes at try using heavey missiles. or even better. light missiles.. then see what happens..
a prime example of how this speed "nerf" has helped is this.
before patch a pimped out inty could do an insane amount of speed causing it to be "invincilbe".
after patch a speed tanked inty can be taken out with one yes ONE volley of light missiles if you are set up corectly./ so infact the caldari are now the anti speed gods.
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KingDiomedes
Caldari Shadow Company Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.30 00:17:00 -
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i beg to differ sounds to me you have never used missiles. ships shouldnt be able to speed tank any more, before patch i could do alot more dmg to a vaga doing the same speed than i now can. I do more damage with a rage hams missile than i now can with a javelin?? this means that javs are pretty useless. hams and rockets have now no range at all so they are now useless, cross training is a waste of sp, like i said they are the best at ewar. so the rest of my sp is now useless other than my ewar skills. whats the point in having a decent tank when u cant kill anything?? broadsword for example has an awesome tank but also have decent dps so it can actually kill stuff. missiles didnt need a nerf as they pretty sucked to begin with now they are useless, ask any caldari pilot.
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fllow
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Posted - 2008.11.30 00:49:00 -
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i am a caldar missile pillot and i am i pirate so get alot of pvp action in my cerb and drake and i canot say that this nerf has realy dameged much. you just have to use the right missiles and lauchers for the right job now..
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Nikita Alterana
Gallente The Antikythera Mechanism
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Posted - 2008.11.30 01:08:00 -
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get back to work achura scum, those missions don't do themselves, and I need that meta 4 loot! __________________________________________________ I was Amarr before they were the FOTM and I'll be Amarr after it! I'm also training Minmatar Capitals! And I eat Lions! |
fllow
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Posted - 2008.11.30 01:10:00 -
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haha not ALL caldari mission run you know. im the kind of person who likes to take the "meta 4" stuff from the people who buy it from the mission runners.
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KingDiomedes
Caldari Shadow Company Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.30 01:13:00 -
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you miss my point... missiles suck they dont do any dmg even more so since the patch and i bet you dont solo do you, i bet you fly with someone else who lays down the dps and does the tacking at the same time as tanking just be honest caldari suck at everything bar ewar and doing lvl4s
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fllow
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Posted - 2008.11.30 01:24:00 -
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i fly solo in my cerb. (and my harpy but thats a hybrid ship..........)
so i tackle tank and dps. and i can say that the damage is as it always was lame. but at the end of the day. this is a multi player game. caldari are designed to be used as part of a fleet. like every other ship in the game.
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KingDiomedes
Caldari Shadow Company Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.30 01:37:00 -
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in a fleet fight for example the only caldari ship people want are either crows (which now suck) and falcons, theres no place for missiles as they are too slow and dont do enuff dmg, u need instant damage so im struggling to see the point of caldari other than ewar?
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2008.11.30 02:09:00 -
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Thought half of caldari's line-up were longrange gunboats...
Guess I was mistaken.
Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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El Yatta
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.11.30 03:03:00 -
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If you think they lack DPS you need to actually look at the capabilities of torpedoes. Seriously, they do plenty.
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KingDiomedes
Caldari Shadow Company Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.30 03:08:00 -
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when do u get to use torps? if ur in a fleet fight u have no chance of using them, say ur 1 on 1 pretty much all ships are faster than a raven even with an mwd, ur never gonna hit anything now with the sig radius, u cant keep anything in range as that would mean fitting a point and web which means no defence so ul get owned, dont have a large drone bay so mediums t2 is all u have aka caldari suck
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Spike 68
Retrofitted Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.11.30 06:13:00 -
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Edited by: Spike 68 on 30/11/2008 06:14:27 omg not you again, just go disappear somewhere. And yeah caldari do plenty of dps.
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Typhado3
Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.30 07:48:00 -
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caldari are best at pve, good at fleets and good at small battles (not to mention the falcon **** machine), and for this you do poor at solo pvp. you seem to be getting a pretty good deal out of this seeing solo pvp is one of the smallest areas in eve.
for reference I'm equally skilled in caldari and minmatar and most of the time lately when I look to fly a ship i see my minmatar one and my caldari one and 90% of the time I know the caldari one would work better.
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Nebulous
Minmatar Thukker Insurgents
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Posted - 2008.11.30 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: KingDiomedes why is it other races can change long/short range ammo for the same gun but we have to change launchers if we want to use differant missiles.
Whats the range of blasters with the longest range ammo? Whats the range of Autocannons with the longest range ammo? All races have short and long range weapons.
P.S. you are aware that Caldari also have railgun platform ships for super range sniping?
P.S.S. Are you also aware that Caldari have bonuses to the best electronic warfare in EVE? Target jammers.
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Sir Substance
Minmatar MagiTech Alliance Inc. MagiTech Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.30 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: KingDiomedes you miss my point; missiles are poor weapons, they do very little damage compared to other weapons. this problem has been compounded since the recent patch patch. i would suspect you don't solo PvP, by any chance? my suspicion is that you fly with someone else *who lays down the dps and does the tacking at the same time as tanking just be honest caldari suck at everything bar ewar and doing lvl4s
fixed in proper english.
* from this point onwards i cannot understand what the post means. is the post saying that this person sits and does nothing while the other ganks, tanks and tackles?
or is he saying that this person tanks while the other ganks and tackles (a pointless exercise, the tanker would be ignored)?
i dont know. please, KD, use english! - PvPers always say "GB2WoW". the message is that EVE is hard, and people just need to deal with it. wasn't it funny how when nano's started making it hard for *them*, that all went out the window? |
KingDiomedes
Caldari Shadow Company Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.30 12:34:00 -
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maybe if u used your brains and knew that drakes are expected to be passive tanke dwith no dps, as they are tanked, drakes cant fit a pint of web, thus i was suggesting that the person in question relies on others to tackle and lay down the gank whilst the drakes pilot sits there twiddleing thumbs. Hence most caldari ships suck at pvp
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Nebulous
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.11.30 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: KingDiomedes maybe if u used your brains and knew that drakes are expected to be passive tanke dwith no dps, as they are tanked, drakes cant fit a pint of web, thus i was suggesting that the person in question relies on others to tackle and lay down the gank whilst the drakes pilot sits there twiddleing thumbs. Hence most caldari ships suck at pvp
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Una D
Ex Coelis The Bantam Menace
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Posted - 2008.11.30 14:09:00 -
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Not sure what OP is smoking but it's some bad ****.
Caldari were boosted by the whole speed nerf and missile change patch. We know have a chance of actually hitting and doing damage even to fast ships. Before anything that went over 4km/s wasn't even touched by missiles no matter what. Now they need MWD for that so you will still do good damage due to the sig radius. Put on a TP and you can WTFBBQPWN speed tankers. Of course you can't use torps to kill interceptors but that is why we get different types of missiles.
It's a huge boost for PvP. PvE got slightly nerfed (need TP) but that is small price to pay for being actually able to do something to the fast ships. |
El Yatta
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.11.30 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: KingDiomedes maybe if u used your brains and knew that drakes are expected to be passive tanke dwith no dps, as they are tanked, drakes cant fit a pint of web, thus i was suggesting that the person in question relies on others to tackle and lay down the gank whilst the drakes pilot sits there twiddleing thumbs. Hence most caldari ships suck at pvp
Are you joking?
You whine that you got no dps, then say that people SHOULD fit their ships for low dps, and thats why they suck? only a ****** fits a drake for max tank. ITS A GANK BOAT.
You are very ignorant - you say torpedoes have no use 1v1 or fleet. Well guess what daisy, there happens to exist fights BETWEEN 1v1 and 200v200 size. For example, fights where there are a few on each side! And they seem to be perfect for short-medium range high damage weapons like... torpedoes!
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CCP Mitnal
C C P
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Posted - 2008.11.30 15:25:00 -
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Locked.
Lacks any idea or feature to discuss. |
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