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Precisionist
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Posted - 2008.12.01 05:28:00 -
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My main char has HAC V and 17 mill sp strictly pvp and gallente. Second is a amarr recon/covert/hac(but not too good of one yet) logistics 13 mill sp char.
So was wonder if a guardian with 4 med rr's 2 cap rem, passive tanked, would go with a ishtar or a deimos, obviously have the ishtar passive tanked with 1 repper and have him have 3 electrons and a 1600mm plate trimark rigs with a ab, booster.
Targets would be mainly bc's and up and careful of mega's and astarte's and myrm's.
Or I can go curse/ishtar ishtar more of a repping tank and have the curse (with talisman plants) have 3 neuts on it and 2 td's and 2 jams ab and booster(or 1 eccm and 1 jams) should I put rr drones ecm drones or dmg drones or all of the above?
Another good combo would be pilgrim(maintackler) and a deimos to come in with Ions and mfs and dmg rigs up the butt.(maybe put ions and a med rr on the deimos to help out the pilgrim and put a web/ or a 9 km scramb on the deimos and have pilgrim 1 td(or eccm) booster ab web 24k scramb, and maybe use deimos as ecm drones but should I put web boost mwd on deimos and just let pilg 9km scramb web boost ab eccm(or td)?
Guardian and deimos combo might work put a 1600 plate and a SAR on it and a few resists and u got your self a good gank and tank.
Could also have ishtar/pilgrim too pilg tackler and put a rr on the ishtar and ill warp in on top of him and maybe 2 tds on the ishtar boost web(or scramb) ab, I like this setup cause I can drain the guys tank and keep hvy rr drones and 1 med rr(if it fit) on the ishtar for good pilgrim tankage. of course ill put lg talisman for pilg with 3 neuts to keep it guranteed dead and then put out dmg drones from ishtar.
Most of these setups are for bc and bigger but some setups can catch hacs/afs with the pilg one or small fast ships with the curse ones and just drain there cap with a 24km scramb?
I usually put a cloak on my ishtar (imp cloak) if it fits but what do you guys think?
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Precisionist
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Posted - 2008.12.01 06:04:00 -
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Come on guys what would you think best Duo would be for dual accmonichar DOLO action. and if u would change the setups of the ships and why :)
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.12.01 06:07:00 -
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accmonichar DOLO? What?
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Iracham
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.01 06:27:00 -
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I'm usually pretty good at decyphering ******ed abbreviations and acronyms, so I'm going to guess he means account/monitor/character. As for DOLO, no clue.
OP is a poster child for how the internet is making written language as a whole suck.
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Jade O'aka
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Posted - 2008.12.01 08:30:00 -
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I think DOLO = SOLO but with 2 chars... but I could be wrong...
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.01 09:18:00 -
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Falcon with your choice of high-dps battleship/BC/HAC/command ship. Or a Rook or Scorpion I guess. A covert ops frigate is nice as well, but you want something for combat. Any other choice is just suicide for dual accounting. Eventually you're going to get into a situation where you can't manage both ships properly at the same time, and have to pick which one to abandon. A long-range ship is mandatory here, so you have the ability to easily warp it to safety before it gets tackled and killed.
While I guess you could use a sniper ship, only the Cerberus really gives enough dps to be a useful contribution to a 2-man gang. An ECM ship of some kind is really the only ship that allows you to operate at 200km or more, but still be very useful. -----------
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Elizabeth vonStrauss
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Posted - 2008.12.01 10:35:00 -
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not sure what were u thinking, but fitting MEDIUM remote reppers on a guardian is a waste of ship..
I can fit 4 RLAR and 2x L cap transfers and run 5 highs until the end of time..
With Large remotes u get 70km range on repping and with 4 large, my dominix with medicore resists can tank 2 gank fitted megas..
Fit your deimost or ishtar for resists (then can get pretty high..) and u can tank ALOT with your guardian alt 70km away from the fight..
And to put a cherry on top, my guardian fits 2x eanm II and MAR II which makes his tank pretty awesome, while still able to run 4 high mods at the same time if guardian is under attack and needs te rep himself..
But if they engage your guardian, that means they have to put some dps off your main fighting boat..
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.12.01 10:40:00 -
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Uh......
Make friends with someone so you don't have to do the tedious multitasking?
Just being a troll, since I have dual account pirated before, and believe me, flying two vagabonds at once can be a challenge ------------
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
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Posted - 2008.12.01 13:25:00 -
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Everybody loves Falcon alts.
Jam, cloak, uncloak, jam.
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Rhadamantine
Game Community
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Posted - 2008.12.01 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Iracham I'm usually pretty good at decyphering ******ed abbreviations and acronyms, so I'm going to guess he means account/monitor/character. As for DOLO, no clue.
OP is a poster child for how the internet is making written language as a whole suck.
QFT
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Naliena Arlath
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Posted - 2008.12.01 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jade O'aka I think DOLO = SOLO but with 2 chars... but I could be wrong...
Wouldn't the proper word be "Duo" then? Followed by "Trio"?
DOLO? Sounds like some kinda mexican wedding dance or something.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.12.01 14:54:00 -
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Logistics is out of the question as far as I'm concerned it, it's too much micromanagement and simply too easily killed as it always needs to be relatively close.
My choices would be either a ranged DPS assist like the zealot (midrange instant) or raven (longrange delayed) with your main ship focused on active tank and tackle rather than damage, or ranged e-war support with your main ship buffered and focused on damage and tackle.
A tackle assistant (rapier, arazu) is great for BS'es with a high damage potential (raven, geddon, maelstrom, hyperion) but insufficient mids to tackle for themselves. Additionally, this allows you to fit one or two ECCM/sensorbooster/painter to maximise damage or ewar resistance on the main ship. It is however alot more risky and requires alot of micromanagement like the logistics option.
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Miss KillSome
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.12.01 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Logistics is out of the question as far as I'm concerned it, it's too much micromanagement and simply too easily killed as it always needs to be relatively close.
My choices would be either a ranged DPS assist like the zealot (midrange instant) or raven (longrange delayed) with your main ship focused on active tank and tackle rather than damage, or ranged e-war support with your main ship buffered and focused on damage and tackle.
A tackle assistant (rapier, arazu) is great for BS'es with a high damage potential (raven, geddon, maelstrom, hyperion) but insufficient mids to tackle for themselves. Additionally, this allows you to fit one or two ECCM/sensorbooster/painter to maximise damage or ewar resistance on the main ship. It is however alot more risky and requires alot of micromanagement like the logistics option.
your first point: guardian can rep at 72km with solace or t2 RLARs..only cruise missiles and sniping fits can shoot him if target is properly tackled. if there is something fast to come close to guardian, it ussualy mean, that this is ceptor/frig which can be scared away with fligh of warriors II and tanked by local tank.
second point: if he cannot tank the opponent, he is dead. That means he needs ECM or remote repping, ECM for keeping DPS away from him, remoting if he is brave and wants to tank the opponent..And there is hardly any insta-melting this days..
third point: too much micromanagement with 2nd tackling ships. Its better to warp at 70km with alt and rep your main, while tackling with main.. ----- TCODA corporation is recruiting! TCODA is awesome! |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.12.01 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 01/12/2008 16:46:33
Originally by: Miss KillSome
your first point: guardian can rep at 72km with solace or t2 RLARs..only cruise missiles and sniping fits can shoot him if target is properly tackled. if there is something fast to come close to guardian, it ussualy mean, that this is ceptor/frig which can be scared away with fligh of warriors II and tanked by local tank.
second point: if he cannot tank the opponent, he is dead. That means he needs ECM or remote repping, ECM for keeping DPS away from him, remoting if he is brave and wants to tank the opponent..And there is hardly any insta-melting this days..
third point: too much micromanagement with 2nd tackling ships. Its better to warp at 70km with alt and rep your main, while tackling with main..
Right, firstly, 72km is max theoretical range. You'll find him at 30-50 usually because you have to account for movement around gate/station and you can usually not tell where exactly hostiles will pop up. So no, 72km does not cut it.
Second, plenty of ships can mount a very, very impressive tank if they don't have to tackle or deal DPS. All bs'es can be made to tank any other single bs, and in most cases two or more, while still having a point fitted.
Lastly, You are repeating exactly what I said except the logistics option isn't really viable, not at that range at least.
If you want to fit 4 or more large remote reps on a logistics cruiser, you're gonna forfeit in HP buffer and without a plate or multiple LSE's, they are paper thin. Being solo, they also have difficulty keeping up with cap use, and with them being at 30-50km more likely than 70, they are vulnerable to all e-war and even semi-decently ranged weapon platforms.
Wyvern & Chimera fitting flowchart |
Jade O'aka
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Posted - 2008.12.02 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: Jade O''aka on 02/12/2008 01:30:56
Originally by: Naliena Arlath
Originally by: Jade O'aka I think DOLO = SOLO but with 2 chars... but I could be wrong...
Wouldn't the proper word be "Duo" then? Followed by "Trio"?
DOLO? Sounds like some kinda mexican wedding dance or something.
Yeah it would, but I've got no better ideas as to its meaning unless...
Maybe he meant phonetically and is implying he is short on isk... as in Do (ie. Dough, slang for money) and Lo (ie. Low, not enough)!
Even if it's not, surely I get points for creativity?
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Poena Loveless
Minmatar Dawn of a new Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.02 02:29:00 -
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Edited by: Poena Loveless on 02/12/2008 02:31:49
Originally by: Jade O'aka I think DOLO = SOLO but with 2 chars... but I could be wrong...
Can we just derail this thread into a discussion on the meaning of DOLO pls. I bet it will be more interesting.
3 accounts would be TOLO?
I think if he was low on isk, LODO would be accepted in modern day custom
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HairClubForMen
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Posted - 2008.12.02 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Precisionist
EDIT**** I would probably put td rig/neut rig for the curse and a neut rig/trimark or repper aux rig for pil. and ishtar probably trimarks with the guardian secondary and with the pil curse maybe repper bonus rigs wit curse and maybe with the pil too.
Is it really that hard? I request the OP read what he actually wrote and honestly discover why no one else feels like putting the time and effort into a valid reply.
say it with me, pilgrim. As for your ACC TOLO DOLO PIL PIL "web boost mwd" issues, I would say stick to the established, tried and true ship fits until you have enough patience to type the actual names of ships and modules test them yourself.
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Precisionist
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Posted - 2008.12.03 12:13:00 -
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Actually 72km wut I had in mind I mean my ishtar will be 15-25km away from target so the guardian will be find and out of scramble range plus it has a 9k tank. and can run all of it find with a cap booster. only problem wit it is the sensor strength if its jammed kinda of screwed but was thinkign of putting warrier II's in its drone bay for anti int and whatknot plus I have my ishtar 25-50km away and I can send 10 warrierII's so its gg ints.
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Precisionist
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Posted - 2008.12.03 12:15:00 -
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Edited by: Precisionist on 03/12/2008 12:15:14 well I was talking to ppl who have dual monitor account characters that SOLO DUO PLUS SOLO MEANS DOLO to me but w/e and I dont type all the actual fits cause Im asking for experience pvpers that would know the abb. and if u dont gtfo this thread its not for ****heds like yourself.
Btw I tried most of these fits cept the guardian but I use EFT so was just seeing how it would work.
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Splash Whale
Ctrl-Q Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.03 13:17:00 -
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Ishtar + Curse combo is nice for killing lone targets.
you want to go on a longer range setup for the curse, since having 2 ships up close is a hassle to manage, especially against multiple targets.
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