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Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT
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Posted - 2012.04.10 01:43:00 -
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A lot of people went up in arms a while back when DUST was announced as a PS3 exclusive. Maybe this has been posted elswhere but I didn't see it.
Yes.....I know......welcome to last year!
The reasons:
1.) Dust as a console exclusive that interacts and affects the EVE universe directly simply doesn't make sense due to the typical life of a console shooter compared to the life of EVE.
2.) The life of a console game is only as good as the backwards compatability of the next gen of consoles. Few people tend to have 2 systems set out in order to play older games and will of course favor the newer console over the old. If the newer console is not backwards compatable with last gen games they get shelved to collect dust (no pun), or traded for new game credit. If the link is any indication it's not likely SONY will be doing backwards compatability in it's next gen console.
3.) When CCP talked about DUST at fanfest they kept saying "It will LAUNCH exclusively on the PS3. Maybe I'm reading more into this than is actually there, but an exclusive LAUNCH, and PS3 exclusive are 2 different things.
Maybe I'm just reaching here. It seems to me that making a console only game that interacts with a PC game, that has been around for almost 10 years and will likely be around past 2015, is not good buisness. Therefore it's a logical conclusion that DUST will come to the PC eventually, there's really not much of a choice. CCP is too smart to gamble with their hard earned money. EVE was and is built for the long haul and a console game simply doesn't fit that profile.
My belief is that SONY simply doesn't want any competition for PLANETSIDE 2 on the PC. Once the PLANETSIDE 2 user base is established and maybe an expansion or 2 added DUST will release for the PC.
It's all speculation of course but it just makes sense.
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leviticus ander
CATO.nss
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Posted - 2012.04.10 01:49:00 -
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or CCP could do some modification (they are working with sony) to make it forwards compatible with the PS4/1080/whatever so that either they don't need to change anything, or have it ready to be modified in such a way to allow transfer to the upgraded platform. |
Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.10 01:49:00 -
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title is misleading -.- Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.10 02:02:00 -
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OP, I suggest you do more homework before you post about this again. You appear to be missing some variables and constants in your equation and therefore...
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D3F4ULT
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Posted - 2012.04.10 02:11:00 -
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Henry Haphorn wrote:OP, I suggest you do more homework before you post about this again. You appear to be missing some variables and constants in your equation and therefore...
F-
This.
You're making false claims with very little reasearch.
It's people like you that should make owning a blog require a certain IQ level. So in response to your absurd comments.
1) I'm sorry that you, directly, don't have a clue of why its on a separate system other than the PC. Maybe if you would have researched and seen a previous claim by CCP that they wanted to venture to other platforms with their games, then you'd know why it's on the PlayStation.
2) DUST 514 is future proof. It's not being Physically distributed (as far as I know), it will appear for free on the free PlayStation Network as a playable game. CCP stated numerous times along with its users that DUST 514 will advance along with the PlayStation into the future of console gaming and remaining free.
3) Again, Exclusively to the "Current generation" PlayStation 3. The game is exclusively to the PlayStation platform.
I will conclude my post by stating, "you're ******* stupid.", but thats all speculation. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |
Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.10 02:12:00 -
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Could this be moved to the children's section? Thanks!
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Rivur'Tam
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.04.10 02:20:00 -
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I read the op and thought that make sense then i read d4fualts comment thought that makes even more sense.
i have a ps3 and i will be giving it a go though tbh i would rather pay a sub than it be a pay to win game and no matter what anyone says so if you you say in a post i still won't belive it .
its a pay to win game like all free to play ccp is company companys are there to make money not make people happy even if they are 1 and teh same. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire
^^ my sig was awesome that naugty spitfire stole it for himself true story
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James Amril-Kesh
JAK Corporation
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Posted - 2012.04.10 02:29:00 -
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Rivur'Tam wrote:I read the op and thought that make sense then i read d4fualts comment thought that makes even more sense.
i have a ps3 and i will be giving it a go though tbh i would rather pay a sub than it be a pay to win game and no matter what anyone says so if you you say in a post i still won't belive it .
its a pay to win game like all free to play ccp is company companys are there to make money not make people happy even if they are 1 and teh same. Is Starcraft 2 a pay to win game? What you said made zero sense. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window. |
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.10 03:52:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Rivur'Tam wrote:I read the op and thought that make sense then i read d4fualts comment thought that makes even more sense.
i have a ps3 and i will be giving it a go though tbh i would rather pay a sub than it be a pay to win game and no matter what anyone says so if you you say in a post i still won't belive it .
its a pay to win game like all free to play ccp is company companys are there to make money not make people happy even if they are 1 and teh same. Is Starcraft 2 a pay to win game? What you said made zero sense.
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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2012.04.10 03:56:00 -
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Some other things you should take note of:
1.) CCP owns the Dust 514 property entirely and is publishing the game themselves. 2.) Third-party exclusives are a rarity in this day and age. 3.) Confirmed mouse and keyboard controls have strong implications for a PC version in the future. |
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Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.10 03:59:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:Some other things you should take note of:
1.) CCP owns the Dust 514 property and is publishing the game themselves. 2.) Third-party exclusives are a rarity in this day and age. 3.) Confirmed mouse and keyboard controls have strong implications for a PC version in the future.
Confirmed mouse and keyboard controls... :Q____ Maybe I will get a PS3 after all. Every FPS on the PS3 has had horrible controls but if there are little mousies involved then that solves that! I do really hope it will be for the PC though. I know they say they want a new market but :| come on! Don't be a flipped turtle CCP. Consoles are too heavy.
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.10 13:14:00 -
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Niko DelValle
Promethium Corp.
12
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Posted - 2012.04.10 13:33:00 -
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1.) Yes it kind of does make sense if you examine it more closely. Dust 514 is a shooter, and shooters are primarily played on consoles, not PC's. Because of this, it was a good marketing decision to take advantage of the much larger shooter market on consoles. I actually personally think chances of a PC port of Dust ever coming out is quite low, considering PC players would completely outclass console players with their keyboards.
2.) PSN already offers PS2 games on the Playstation Store. The chances of Dust getting ported to whatever new Playstation comes out is high. Once it's needed of course. PS4 isn't supposed to be even coming out until the end of 2014, and PS3 will be sticking around far past it's launch. I mean... look at PS2, that system lasted for almost 4 years after the launch of the PS3.
3.) You're correct, your reading into it to much. Besides, it's already been announced as an exclusive for Playstation. That means Sony must have a hold on some kind of marketing rights for the game. It would be a bad marketing decision for them to allow it onto other platforms. Indeed, Dust could've never even happened on Xbox because of their extremely restrictive server tech. Which must be why they went to Sony. I'm guessing CCP probably did a fair bit of negotiating with Sony, but Sony probably wants to keep Dust away from anything associated with Microsoft (Windows).
In conclusion, it doesn't make quite as much sense as you seem to think.
EDIT: I would like to ask who said Dust would even have Mouse and Keyboard controls. I haven't read a single article that has indicated anything about it, but some people keep on saying it. Link me to the article please? Thanks. This is not the signature you're looking for. /This is not the signature I'm looking for. /You will search for other signatures. /I will search for other signatures. / |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.10 14:10:00 -
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Consoles will be dead in a year or 2 anyway. They might as well have worked with Apple or Android on this, or as OP hints at, PC! |
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.10 14:37:00 -
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Rivur'Tam wrote:
i have a ps3 and i will be giving it a go though tbh i would rather pay a sub than it be a pay to win game and no matter what anyone says so if you you say in a post i still won't belive it .
Lol people with this sentiment make me laugh.
"LA LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING!!!"
Damned facts I hate it when they disagree with me.
2bhammered wrote:Consoles will be dead in a year or 2 anyway. They might as well have worked with Apple or Android on this, or as OP hints at, PC!
Care to expound upon that with any semblance of reasoning? I don't imagine people throwing consoles away (Especially now that they're tied directly to every form of home entertainment system) in 2 years to take up the cause of the PC (which requires constant upgrading...a pace that has only slowed down due to consoles hardware requirements... Say what you will this hasn't been an entirely bad thing; so far as our wallets are concerned) If you think mobile will replace consoles... Well not until they can do everything a console can.
In the future perhaps we'll have the all inclusive SCI FI dream of "The one Device to rule them all." but that's sure as hell not in 2 years, and mobile games are more for the fill the void while in class/subway/bus/plane ride than anything. Especially for the current console market of 18-36 year old dudes. I believe more women buy and play mobile type games. |
Znaei
Thundercats
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Posted - 2012.04.10 15:45:00 -
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Don't want to make a new topic on this, but I have a FF beta Key for Dust.
Anyone know when we get to start testing? |
Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.04.10 16:35:00 -
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Niko DelValle wrote:1.) Yes it kind of does make sense if you examine it more closely. Dust 514 is a shooter, and shooters are primarily played on consoles, not PC's. Because of this, it was a good marketing decision to take advantage of the much larger shooter market on consoles. I actually personally think chances of a PC port of Dust ever coming out is quite low, considering PC players would completely outclass console players with their keyboards.
2.) PSN already offers PS2 games on the Playstation Store. The chances of Dust getting ported to whatever new Playstation comes out is high. Once it's needed of course. PS4 isn't supposed to be even coming out until the end of 2014, and PS3 will be sticking around far past it's launch. I mean... look at PS2, that system lasted for almost 4 years after the launch of the PS3.
3.) You're correct, your reading into it to much. Besides, it's already been announced as an exclusive for Playstation. That means Sony must have a hold on some kind of marketing rights for the game. It would be a bad marketing decision for them to allow it onto other platforms. Indeed, Dust could've never even happened on Xbox because of their extremely restrictive server tech. Which must be why they went to Sony. I'm guessing CCP probably did a fair bit of negotiating with Sony, but Sony probably wants to keep Dust away from anything associated with Microsoft (Windows).
In conclusion, it doesn't make quite as much sense as you seem to think.
EDIT: I would like to ask who said Dust would even have Mouse and Keyboard controls. I haven't read a single article that has indicated anything about it, but some people keep on saying it. Link me to the article please? Thanks.
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/02/07/ccp-confirms-keyboard-and-mouse-control-for-dust-514/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TgEO71TYbXA that is also interesting regarding the whole DUST for PC thing. |
Niko DelValle
Promethium Corp.
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Posted - 2012.04.10 23:21:00 -
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Thanks for that link! :D
In addition, I think that people are just hearing what they want hear. If a PC version of Dust is coming, it's not coming for a long time. This is not the signature you're looking for. /This is not the signature I'm looking for. /You will search for other signatures. /I will search for other signatures. / |
Bane Necran
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Posted - 2012.04.10 23:52:00 -
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Kattshiro wrote:In the future perhaps we'll have the all inclusive SCI FI dream of "The one Device to rule them all."
That's exactly what i consider computers to be. If i wanted to bad enough, i could control anything in my house with one. Everything from the lock on my front door to the temperature inside my fridge. There's probably already companies out there who would do it all for you, if you're not a techie yourself.
Consoles are meant to specialize in one thing, and that's games, often on the same hardware for 10 years. The best game developers prefer to make computer games because they can utilize the most recent hardware, and blow some peoples minds. Instead of trying to squeeze as much as possible out of technology from a decade ago.
However, as much as i love playing FPS games on computers, childish hackers tend to ruin them. I would hate to see DUST full of those people. |
Niko DelValle
Promethium Corp.
12
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Posted - 2012.04.11 02:14:00 -
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That is so wrong that only good developers dev on computers. There are some excellent game studios that make excellent games on consoles.
Look at the likes of Uncharted or other console exclusive titles/developers.
Game developers actually prefer to work on consoles because they only have to make it for one piece of hardware, they don't have to bother with making it work on a wider scale. It's about squeezing the most they can out of the same technology so everyone's on fair ground.
It's also a helluva lot cheaper to game on consoles, some people just can't afford to pay to consistently upgrade a PC, it's just to much money. This is not the signature you're looking for. /This is not the signature I'm looking for. /You will search for other signatures. /I will search for other signatures. / |
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Bane Necran
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Posted - 2012.04.11 02:44:00 -
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Niko DelValle wrote:That is so wrong that only good developers dev on computers. There are some excellent game studios that make excellent games on consoles.
I still play old games like X-Com which aren't really amazing technically, because they're simply good. But my point is that if a company wants to blow some minds, and make a game with cutting edge graphics, they're going to do so on the latest hardware that has come out for computers, not 10 year old console hardware. |
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2012.04.11 03:17:00 -
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... Meh uncharted and other games made by naughty dog have pushed graphical boundries. (Sand Snow etc They also have a super strict hiring process to get really good developers) Also push the limit of what you can do on the hardware. Most larger games are getting out of PC dev due to pirating. I honestly dont think it matter what platform people develop on. Seems a symptom of nerd elitism. (PC is better...! Because... I like a mouse...) Furthermore some of the best PC developers dont even go for looks. Blizzard is a prime example of this.
Matter of fact making something shiny v. good is a prime example of bad development, and was what drove people to consoles because developers keep on trying to make games more graphically intense thus driving the need to upgrade on PC's once a year.
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Niko DelValle
Promethium Corp.
12
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Posted - 2012.04.11 03:22:00 -
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I so wanted to get into X-Com, I tried it, but I couldn't figure it out thanks to the lack of a tutorial, >.<
Anyways, Kattshiro is right. A lot of developers are getting out of the PC market due to pirating. A large majority of games are developed on consoles for these very reasons. Not only because there's a larger market for most games on consoles anyways. That's why Dust is there.
Kattshiro is also right with his shiny v. good saying, I want a good game, I could care less how it looks. I play more games on consoles because the PC market is actually relatively thin now-a-days. This is not the signature you're looking for. /This is not the signature I'm looking for. /You will search for other signatures. /I will search for other signatures. / |
Selinate
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Posted - 2012.04.11 03:22:00 -
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I'd rather see Dust on the PC also, since the PS3 graphics are terrible in this day and age.
Do I care enough to make a thread with defined points about it though? No, I have a PS3 and will be using it for Dust without much thought. |
Niko DelValle
Promethium Corp.
12
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Posted - 2012.04.11 04:11:00 -
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Not to mention, like I said, who the hell cares about the graphics. If the game is good, no one cares. This is not the signature you're looking for. /This is not the signature I'm looking for. /You will search for other signatures. /I will search for other signatures. / |
Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
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Posted - 2012.04.11 04:47:00 -
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Dear OP:
The main barrier to porting from console to PC is the ENGINE itself - not mere balance issues which can be solved by segregating PC and console gamers. The main reason why we should be hopeful for a PC version isn't because DUST 514 has keyboard+mouse support, but is instead the fact that DUST 514 utilizes the Unreal Engine which is known to be highly portable. |
Selinate
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Posted - 2012.04.11 04:55:00 -
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Niko DelValle wrote:Not to mention, like I said, why should I care about graphics? If the game is good, I don't care.
FYP. A lot of people do care, and they don't care what your opinion is about the graphics either. |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.11 06:35:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Consoles will be dead in a year or 2 anyway. They might as well have worked with Apple or Android on this, or as OP hints at, PC!
this made me lol. console get more sales then PC, what company doesn't want money. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1398
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Posted - 2012.04.11 06:40:00 -
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If DUST on PC does happen, I will have to make good on my promise to perform sexual favors for all CCP personnel.
Best they not know about this.
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Horatius Caul
Kitzless
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Posted - 2012.04.11 09:13:00 -
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Natassia Krasnoo wrote: 1.) Dust as a console exclusive that interacts and affects the EVE universe directly simply doesn't make sense due to the typical life of a console shooter compared to the life of EVE.
Irrelevant. DUST is not a typical shooter. Other shooters are built to be played and forgotten, and maybe returned to when DLC drops. The companies that make these games try to wring as much dosh from the players as possible before they drop by pricing their games crazy high and calling them "triple-A" to validate it (yes, I know CCP keeps drilling that buzzword, and it make me want to cut myself).
DUST is constructed differently from the fundaments of game design. Where other companies built for abandonment, CCP has built for retention and loyalty. The simple fact that the game has passive skilling will likely mean DUST will have many more regularly returning players than any other shooter, as it will reward early adopters with greater access to the game as their accounts progress.
Natassia Krasnoo wrote:2.) The life of a console game is only as good as the backwards compatability of the next gen of consoles. Few people tend to have 2 systems set out in order to play older games and will of course favor the newer console over the old. If the newer console is not backwards compatable with last gen games they get shelved to collect dust (no pun), or traded for new game credit. If the link is any indication it's not likely SONY will be doing backwards compatability in it's next gen console. Irrelevant. CCP has already said they will continue developing DUST for future Playstation consoles. If the PS4 isn't compatible with DUST, CCP will make a version of DUST that is compatible.
Natassia Krasnoo wrote:3.) When CCP talked about DUST at fanfest they kept saying "It will LAUNCH exclusively on the PS3. Maybe I'm reading more into this than is actually there, but an exclusive LAUNCH, and PS3 exclusive are 2 different things. That's what they've always said, if you listen and read closely. It's not news.
Natassia Krasnoo wrote:Maybe I'm just reaching here. It seems to me that making a console only game that interacts with a PC game, that has been around for almost 10 years and will likely be around past 2015, is not good buisness. Therefore it's a logical conclusion that DUST will come to the PC eventually, there's really not much of a choice. CCP is too smart to gamble with their hard earned money. EVE was and is built for the long haul and a console game simply doesn't fit that profile. Yes, I agree that it's likely that DUST will come to PC at some point. However, I don't agree with your arguments.
Natassia Krasnoo wrote:My belief is that SONY simply doesn't want any competition for PLANETSIDE 2 on the PC. Once the PLANETSIDE 2 user base is established and maybe an expansion or 2 added DUST will release for the PC. More likely it's because Sony and CCP negotiated a timed exclusivity deal, as is common when developing games for consoles. In interviews, CCP has hinted that this is the case, but that they cannot comment on their agreements with Sony regarding that. Considering the amount of work Sony has had to do to sort out their licensing plans, agreements, back-end, etc. just to make DUST work, I think we'd be looking at an exclusivity period of at least a year.
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VKhaun Vex
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.11 10:02:00 -
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leviticus ander wrote:or CCP could do some modification (they are working with sony) to make it forwards compatible with the PS4/1080/whatever so that either they don't need to change anything, or have it ready to be modified in such a way to allow transfer to the upgraded platform.
This. Forward compatibility annihilates the original post.
Niko DelValle wrote:1.) Yes it kind of does make sense if you examine it more closely. Dust 514 is a shooter, and shooters are primarily played on consoles, not PC's.
LOL WHAT
HAHA OH WOW >.<
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Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2012.04.11 12:13:00 -
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Niko DelValle wrote:Not to mention, like I said, who the hell cares about the graphics. If the game is good, no one cares.
I wouldnt go that far for myself. I know many a people that you could give it 8 pixels with a +5 stick of destruction and they dont care. Graphics do help set the environment, and immersion. In certain fps they may enhance the shooting (BF3 sun glare in my eyes v. the other guy can see me just fine)
My point was driving at the developers that just wanted shiny first and everything else will be good because it's shiny. A lot of FPS games felt that to compete you needed the next greatest engine with the greatest look or == fail. Well that's the wrong idea, and games suffered due to it and drove the market else where.
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Jack Paladin
Solar Storm Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2012.04.11 13:17:00 -
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Niko DelValle wrote: shooters are primarily played on consoles
Dude ...... the ****
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Niko DelValle
Promethium Corp.
12
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Posted - 2012.04.11 13:28:00 -
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What? You have a problem or something, because that's true. Shooters ARE primarily played on consoles and primarily purchased on them. If you have a problem with that, get a life... This is not the signature you're looking for. /This is not the signature I'm looking for. /You will search for other signatures. /I will search for other signatures. / |
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2012.04.11 15:51:00 -
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Shooters do outsell on consoles im afraid. Them numbers dont lie. |
VKhaun Vex
Viziam Amarr Empire
315
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Posted - 2012.04.11 19:37:00 -
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Kattshiro wrote:Shooters do outsell on consoles im afraid. Them numbers dont lie.
Quantity of a game sold, = people playing shooter games at any given time? You are defending a ridiculous statement with bad logic.
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Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
58
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Posted - 2012.04.11 20:39:00 -
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You telling me 9.4 million units... and only 1million are actually bought? Or are you driving at overall more people are playing shooters on PC at any given time than consoles across all shooter games?
Oh which both would be wrong.
Also who cares if shooters sell better on console?
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
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Posted - 2012.04.11 21:25:00 -
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Misleading title.
CCP has stated that they will update the game to work on the new console. I still believe that DUST will eventually wind up on the PC as well but don't read into things too much. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Niko DelValle
Promethium Corp.
12
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Posted - 2012.04.12 01:31:00 -
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Kattshiro wrote:You telling me 9.4 million units... and only 1million are actually bought? Or are you driving at overall more people are playing shooters on PC at any given time than consoles across all shooter games?
Oh which both would be wrong.
Also who cares if shooters sell better on console?
I agree, I was just making an obvious statement. Obviously, I like PC's more then consoles, but all I was doing was stating a fact. Shooters DO sell more on consoles and more people DO play them on consoles.
I mean seriously, you should compare the numbers because there is a huge discrepancy between shooters on consoles and shooters on PC's. I guarantee you'll find 3 games going on consoles for every 1 that's going on PC.
But, just like me, even if Dust comes out on PC (which, like I said, if it does, it won't be for quite a while) I will still be playing on PS3. Want to know why? Because I can afford a PS3, I cannot afford a PC even half capable of doing gaming. I play EVE on a damn netbook for Christ's sake! Wanna know why? Because that's as much as I can afford! There are a lot of people out there exactly like me. We play on consoles because that's all we can afford to do. This is not the signature you're looking for. /This is not the signature I'm looking for. /You will search for other signatures. /I will search for other signatures. / |
VKhaun Vex
Viziam Amarr Empire
315
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:23:00 -
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Niko DelValle wrote:I mean seriously, you should compare the numbers because there is a huge discrepancy between shooters on consoles and shooters on PC's. I guarantee you'll find 3 games going on consoles for every 1 that's going on PC
You have to be trolling if you think there are more games 'going on' on consoles considering how server hosting works, and you have not linked any numbers.
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Niko DelValle
Promethium Corp.
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Posted - 2012.04.12 05:12:00 -
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Personal experience bud. Which is why it is so obvious.
But, if you want, I'll dig up some tomorrow morning. This is not the signature you're looking for. /This is not the signature I'm looking for. /You will search for other signatures. /I will search for other signatures. / |
Jace Errata
Lawlz Brawlz
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Posted - 2012.04.12 08:58:00 -
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...You know, I always thought the "K&M compatibility" thing was just for chat and such.
Not that I wouldn't mind a PC DUST. Stealth OST puns and blatant lies since 2009 Jace Errata on Twitter
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Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 12:25:00 -
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VKhaun Vex wrote:Niko DelValle wrote:I mean seriously, you should compare the numbers because there is a huge discrepancy between shooters on consoles and shooters on PC's. I guarantee you'll find 3 games going on consoles for every 1 that's going on PC You have to be trolling if you think there are more games 'going on' on consoles considering how server hosting works, and you have not linked any numbers.
Google top selling games... or games sales numbers by genre. PC games is the sims, wow, starcraft 1. Consoles I believe is MW2/3/blops, Halo series. Then take into account that those pc games have been selling for years and years now. (half-life 1 and 2)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games
Woops I take it back blops sold 12 million... on 360 alone, and I was wrong about the PS3 top selling is GT... Then Cod series. Woops I was wrong I googled top selling games of all time...
But once again who the **** cares? Unless this is tied to some sort of hobby validation. (Coming from a guy who plays a lot of shooters on the PC, and did upgrade to play BF3) What does it matter? You have to had known that consoles were out selling PC's which was the reasoning behind the whole "PC gaming is dead...blah blah" And that less and less people were developing for the PC, AND !!! SO MANY CONSOLE PORTS!
Edit: HOLY **** LOOK AT WII SALES... Nintendo made "**** you money" off one game alone... 76 million sales. |
Zofe Stormcaller
NUTS AND BOLTS MANUFACTURING En Garde
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Posted - 2012.04.12 12:45:00 -
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I would have bought a 360 to play dust. I refuse to buy a PS3 to play it. I will stick to shooting at the dusties from orbit. With luck CCP will insert a mechanic to allow me to deorbit a dominix on them.
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Niko DelValle
Promethium Corp.
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Posted - 2012.04.12 14:00:00 -
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Kattshiro wrote:VKhaun Vex wrote:Niko DelValle wrote:I mean seriously, you should compare the numbers because there is a huge discrepancy between shooters on consoles and shooters on PC's. I guarantee you'll find 3 games going on consoles for every 1 that's going on PC You have to be trolling if you think there are more games 'going on' on consoles considering how server hosting works, and you have not linked any numbers. Google top selling games... or games sales numbers by genre. PC games is the sims, wow, starcraft 1. Consoles I believe is MW2/3/blops, Halo series. Then take into account that those pc games have been selling for years and years now. (half-life 1 and 2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_gamesWoops I take it back blops sold 12 million... on 360 alone, and I was wrong about the PS3 top selling is GT... Then Cod series. Woops I was wrong I googled top selling games of all time... But once again who the **** cares? Unless this is tied to some sort of hobby validation. (Coming from a guy who plays a lot of shooters on the PC, and did upgrade to play BF3) What does it matter? You have to had known that consoles were out selling PC's which was the reasoning behind the whole "PC gaming is dead...blah blah" And that less and less people were developing for the PC, AND !!! SO MANY CONSOLE PORTS! Edit: HOLY **** LOOK AT WII SALES... Nintendo made "**** you money" off one game alone... 76 million sales.
Analyze that more closely and you will see that a total of around 15 million copies sold for MW2 on consoles according to that list. Yet, you cannot even see how many copies of it sold for PC.
If more people bought it on consoles, the direct conclusion you can draw is that significantly more people would be playing on consoles then on PC. I mean seriously, the lowest number on the PC list there is 5 million and MW2 doesn't show up. Which means that at least 3 times those copies were purchased on consoles.
Because of this, you can draw a direct conclusion that more people are playing on consoles then there are on PC.
It's just a fact bro, no need to get so upset over it. No one cares.
In addition, PC gaming is far from dead. It's still the only platform you can play a decent RTS on, :)
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OldMan Gana
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
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I have a PS3 and I'm looking forward to playing Dust. I don't have a PC so I don't give a crap, Games on PC are usually crap compared to a PS3 anyway. " I spent most of my money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best-á |
Niko DelValle
Promethium Corp.
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lol, not true, but alright Gana.
At least you don't beat around the bush, ^^
btw Zofe, that makes absolutely no sense. PS3 is cheaper then Xbox AND it has more exclusives then it ten-fold. Anyways, one thing I can be assured if is that Dust is NEVER coming to Xbox. Sony has literally removed entire policies in order to allow Dust to work. Which Microsoft, being the greedy money grubbing company it is, would never do.
It's why I refuse to buy an Xbox, the fact that they charge anything just so I can play my games online is completely ridiculous.
That deorbit idea would be amazing though... a tad bit money wasting but f***ing awesome to watch! This is not the signature you're looking for. /This is not the signature I'm looking for. /You will search for other signatures. /I will search for other signatures. / |
Brodit
Dark Harlequin
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I'm looking forward to Dust especially as I'm not going to have to pay a sub. My pc has enough dust on it at the moment |
Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
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Posted - 2012.04.12 21:14:00 -
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Niko DelValle wrote:1.) Yes it kind of does make sense if you examine it more closely. Dust 514 is a shooter, and shooters are primarily played on consoles, not PC's.
Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe.
Anyway, Dust is not the same as other console shooters. Dust is free (with cash shop) and will be continuously updated, even after years. It will be playable on the next playstation aswell (CCP was very adamant about this and Sony will not be making the mistake of not giving the PS4 backwards compatability).
It will eventually come to the PC, just not yet. CCP'ers have hinted at this multiple times, however overtly - Don't start celebrating, but a PC version is very likely to come at some point. |
Niko DelValle
Promethium Corp. Army of Dark Shadows
12
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Posted - 2012.04.12 23:10:00 -
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I didn't say it wasn't going to come to PC at some point, I said that it was a good marketing decision, which it still is.
BECAUSE SHOOTERS ARE PRIMARILY PLAYED ON CONSOLES!
Most people are only going to gauge it at face value. Shooters are a dime a dozen, and many people think they know what they're going to be getting. They may be wrong in this case, but I'm tired of people acting like that statement I made isn't true. This is not the signature you're looking for. /This is not the signature I'm looking for. /You will search for other signatures. /I will search for other signatures. / |
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