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Gone'Postal
Minmatar Rage of Inferno
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Posted - 2008.12.04 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Franga Posting in an Akita arrogance thread.
This.
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ZinderX500
Caldari Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.04 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Vek NaVek
The thread is a troll, and the OP knows all.
The OP is Caldari and you are Amarr. Enough said.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.12.04 11:55:00 -
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Paying for a subscription with real money = Feels completely normal. Paying for imaginary items with real money = Feels weird and also feels a bit like cheating.
That's just the way that a lot of players think. No **** that a few hours of a job will pay for tons of isk via GTC, but if it takes away the harshness of the death penalty in EVE then suddenly the game isn't as fun anymore. Accomplishments are hollow without putting in the work, etc etc blah blah.
I'd rather have high GTC prices and less alts then everyone and their donkey having 2 alts and low GTC prices. --
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.12.04 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: LvxAeterna How many alts do you own? You seem to have first-hand experience, judging by what you wrote.
Two accounts, both paid by debit card. Not the answer you were expecting, huh ?
I *used* to pay them with GTCs bought with ISK a while ago, when CCP's billing wouldn't accept my old debit card, made a new one, now it works. I seldom use the second account (and as such it certainly doesn't generate any ISK), so I was pondering for a while that if I could get a good price for it (far above market value) I'd actually consider selling it.
Quote: Let me tell you something-- people like me have multiple alts. Funded by time cards. None of which are revenue generators. I am not worried about breaking even. I have enough disposable income in real life that allows me to afford a reasonably lavish lifestyle in eve.
Good for you, EVE needs more of your kind
Originally by: Vek NaVek 'Akita T, Better than everyone else'
Damn right
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.04 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Vek NaVek 'Akita T, Better than everyone else'
Damn right
Arrogance like that on the forums doesn't do a great deal to promote your cause.
-- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. All this has happened before and will happen again |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.12.04 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 04/12/2008 12:19:16
Originally by: Dantes Revenge Arrogance like that on the forums doesn't do a great deal to promote your cause.
Neither is trying to argue over the internet on a forum. It can't help, it can't hurt, so... who cares. Arrogance means nothing. Theories, experiments, reasoning and provable facts mean something.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.04 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T It's because "you people" (the ones that have more than just one account just to make ISK in-game) are either stupid or seriously "mathematically challenged".
Lol Akita T, you was a serious poster and because of participating in this fail forum too much, you got dumber and are on your way to become a troll ? It's obvious that you are wrong here.
Let's take someone who does missions with 3 accounts. An average higsec bear will make 20mil/h with 1 account, maybe less with each additional account (has to switch a lot between clients etc.), so lets say 20+15+10 = 45m/h with 3 accounts. The point is, that if he spends the time in front of his PC doing missions with 1 account, he could also do that with 2 or 3, there is no time loss for him. And it's just a matter of time when he breaks even. A person having 3 accounts for missionrunning will usually be an active player, not part-time weekend missionrunner. Lets assume he does 2h / day, 60h each month.
Single account: 60h x 20m = 1.2 billion. After 300mil for 30d gtc thats 900mil isk per month.
Tripple account from example above: 60h x 45m = 2,7 billion. After 3x 300mil for 3x 30d gtc thats 1,8 billion per month.
Double as much for the same time spent, so why exactly is he "stupid" or "mathematically challenged" ?
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Captain Pompous
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Posted - 2008.12.04 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 04/12/2008 12:19:16
Originally by: Dantes Revenge Arrogance like that on the forums doesn't do a great deal to promote your cause.
Neither is trying to argue over the internet on a forum. It can't help, it can't hurt, so... who cares. Arrogance means nothing. Theories, experiments, reasoning and provable facts mean something.
none of which you provide, moron
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Karille
Gallente Cold Templars Templar Initiative
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Posted - 2008.12.04 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: Akita T It's because "you people" (the ones that have more than just one account just to make ISK in-game) are either stupid or seriously "mathematically challenged".
Lol Akita T, you was a serious poster and because of participating in this fail forum too much, you got dumber and are on your way to become a troll ? It's obvious that you are wrong here.
Let's take someone who does missions with 3 accounts. An average higsec bear will make 20mil/h with 1 account, maybe less with each additional account (has to switch a lot between clients etc.), so lets say 20+15+10 = 45m/h with 3 accounts. The point is, that if he spends the time in front of his PC doing missions with 1 account, he could also do that with 2 or 3, there is no time loss for him. And it's just a matter of time when he breaks even. A person having 3 accounts for missionrunning will usually be an active player, not part-time weekend missionrunner. Lets assume he does 2h / day, 60h each month.
Single account: 60h x 20m = 1.2 billion. After 300mil for 30d gtc thats 900mil isk per month.
Tripple account from example above: 60h x 45m = 2,7 billion. After 3x 300mil for 3x 30d gtc thats 1,8 billion per month.
Double as much for the same time spent, so why exactly is he "stupid" or "mathematically challenged" ?
Because at that point you're an ISK farmer, not someone playing a game.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.04 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Karille
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: Akita T It's because "you people" (the ones that have more than just one account just to make ISK in-game) are either stupid or seriously "mathematically challenged".
Lol Akita T, you was a serious poster and because of participating in this fail forum too much, you got dumber and are on your way to become a troll ? It's obvious that you are wrong here.
Let's take someone who does missions with 3 accounts. An average higsec bear will make 20mil/h with 1 account, maybe less with each additional account (has to switch a lot between clients etc.), so lets say 20+15+10 = 45m/h with 3 accounts. The point is, that if he spends the time in front of his PC doing missions with 1 account, he could also do that with 2 or 3, there is no time loss for him. And it's just a matter of time when he breaks even. A person having 3 accounts for missionrunning will usually be an active player, not part-time weekend missionrunner. Lets assume he does 2h / day, 60h each month.
Single account: 60h x 20m = 1.2 billion. After 300mil for 30d gtc thats 900mil isk per month.
Tripple account from example above: 60h x 45m = 2,7 billion. After 3x 300mil for 3x 30d gtc thats 1,8 billion per month.
Double as much for the same time spent, so why exactly is he "stupid" or "mathematically challenged" ?
Because at that point you're an ISK farmer, not someone playing a game.
You missed the point. It's a comparison between someone with 1 and 3 account playing 2h/day. If doing missions 2h/day makes you an isk farmer, then both of them are, but the one with 3 accounts actually makes double as much for the same time spend, thats why he's not the "stupid" or "mathematically" challenged one. In fact he makes even more than that, because he can keep on with skilltraing and sell characters or earn datacores on two additional accounts.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.12.04 12:50:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 04/12/2008 12:51:52
Yakia TovilToba, you're only "wrong" (intentionally in quotes) because you're making the mistake of assuming people on average would actually work like that at all. What you presented above would be the LUCKY FEW that actually do it like that.
How many people you know ACTUALLY get their second, third or whatever'th account and really use them at "full power" after a while ? Not many, I'll tell you. Most just end up sitting there leeching ISK for gametime while barely contributing close to the GTC cost, if that much at all in the long run. Most people go "hmm, hey, if I get a second account, I can make more ISK", then invest a lot of ISK into it (train/buy character, buy gear, etc) then end up "burning out" and getting too bored to do it anymore.
Sure, SOME don't burn out, and they are actually justified in getting an alt. MOST don't keep up, and they should get rid of them, pass them on to somebody who would end up actively using them until THEY burn out, and pass them along again.
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Karille
Gallente Cold Templars Templar Initiative
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Posted - 2008.12.04 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Most people go "hmm, hey, if I get a second account, I can make more ISK", then invest a lot of ISK into it (train/buy character, buy gear, etc) then end up "burning out" and getting too bored to do it anymore.
This = Me
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.12.04 13:39:00 -
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You and 80% of people who get a second account
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5pinDizzy
Amarr Umpteenth Podding
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Posted - 2008.12.04 13:43:00 -
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Please let's try and keep this discussion reasonable and balanced guys. How about, if you disagree with Akita then why not shut your face?
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2008.12.04 13:44:00 -
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Heh, if you plan well you can go a long way without a second account. I wouldn't even consider one unless I knew it would be worthwhile; I barely even use 1 character most of the time, let alone 3n. --- Can't afford that BPO? Look here. 20:1 mineral compression The EVE f@h team |
Roymundo
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Posted - 2008.12.04 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: LvxAeterna Edited by: LvxAeterna on 04/12/2008 10:50:18
Originally by: Akita T It's because "you people" (the ones that have more than just one blah blah blah blah
How many alts do you own? You seem to have first-hand experience, judging by what you wrote.
Let me tell you something-- people like me have multiple alts. Funded by time cards. None of which are revenue generators. I am not worried about breaking even. I have enough disposable income in real life that allows me to afford a reasonably lavish lifestyle in eve. As a "have," speaking to a "have not" .... TOO BAD!
I bet that makes you REALLY mad doesn't it?
Let this be an incentive for YOU to achieve more in life, so you can afford more in eve.
this.
as this guy and another mentioned earlier, why spend all that time farming isk when you could earn it real life? 2 hours over time and i can get meself a billion iskies. the only people who would sit and farm the isk seem to be chinese/******ed/have no friends....... |
Del Soliara
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Posted - 2008.12.04 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vek NaVek 'Akita T, Better than everyone else'
Would make a great t-shirt slogan
More like 'Akita T, I'm an As terisk' |
NeoTech
Minmatar Tenacious Danes X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.04 14:08:00 -
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I currently make about 100m an hour mining, i got 4 characters (soon to get 6), thats 6hours = 2 months for each char = about 24hours of mining = 4-6 days roughly.
That means that i have 54 days to mine and make a profit with, now tell me that isn't worth it. |
Roymundo
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Posted - 2008.12.04 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: NeoTech I currently make about 100m an hour mining, i got 4 characters (soon to get 6), thats 6hours = 2 months for each char = about 24hours of mining = 4-6 days roughly.
That means that i have 54 days to mine and make a profit with, now tell me that isn't worth it.
if you enjoy those 4-6 days then sure go for it. it just seems a waste of time. you could spend 3 hours working and use the cash earned to put the rest of those 4-6 days to better use. |
Tippia
Caldari Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2008.12.04 14:27:00 -
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Alts are for sissies anyway… |
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.12.04 14:38:00 -
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Or pay with a credit card? |
Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2008.12.04 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T It's because "you people" ... are either stupid or seriously "mathematically challenged".
Emorage posts are so funny
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.12.04 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: NeoTech I currently make about 100m an hour mining, i got 4 characters (soon to get 6), thats 6hours = 2 months for each char = about 24hours of mining = 4-6 days roughly. That means that i have 54 days to mine and make a profit with, now tell me that isn't worth it.
You and 1000 other people out of 20,000 or so people with more than one account.
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Lord Zoran
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2008.12.04 15:42:00 -
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tbh gtfo ankita your getting annoying, anyways yea most ppl have alts and for many different reasons, personally i just find it easier logistically and better for training for to fly a variety of races across both accounts rather then 1. oh and do what the hell you want with your alt but if you cant afford to keep them don't complain just earn more whether it be in eve or in rl
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Kalintos Tyl
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.12.04 16:37:00 -
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becouse l4 pays too much
Quote: It's not a good idea to place a Exotic Dancers in a Giant Secure Container. The Exotic Dancers will not survive intact, if transported in such a container.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.12.04 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Zoran if you cant afford to keep them don't complain
I can afford to keep'em, I'm not complaining about that, learn to read and/or comprehend properly.
_ Create a character || Fit a ship || Get some ISK |
ZinderX500
Caldari Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.04 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: NeoTech I currently make about 100m an hour mining, i got 4 characters (soon to get 6), thats 6hours = 2 months for each char = about 24hours of mining = 4-6 days roughly.
That means that i have 54 days to mine and make a profit with, now tell me that isn't worth it.
Send me some ISK kkthxbai.
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Researcher Qual
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Posted - 2008.12.04 17:33:00 -
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Op = self-involved tw@
I'm glad you don't have a passport or wouldn't make a copy or whatever you were crying about that stopped you running for CSM, you are too up your own arse to be of any use to anyone except your own ego
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.12.04 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Researcher Qual Op = self-involved tw@ you are too up your own arse to be of any use to anyone except your own ego
So... you completely agree with everything I said, but just don't like the way I said it ? Good to know.
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Metlec
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Posted - 2008.12.04 17:45:00 -
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"You people" need to spend less time arguing with Akita and more time ratting to afford your GTCs
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