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GeorgeZ	Posted - 2004.07.16 15:00:00 - [1] Edited by: GeorgeZ on 16/07/2004 15:02:12 Hey, I just got a scorp and I was looking for some help on how to tank and fit it for EW effectivly. I already tried looking thru the forum but it does seam to have a search engine so I gave up. I tried making a EW scorp and I came up with this 4 ECM Multispectrum jammers sensor booster 2 warp dizz(20km) 1 stasis web Would it be better to go with 5 ECM and only 1 warp dizz? I am still learnig how do setup so any help would be appreciate.
GeorgeZ	Posted - 2004.07.16 15:00:00 - [2] Edited by: GeorgeZ on 16/07/2004 15:02:12 Hey, I just got a scorp and I was looking for some help on how to tank and fit it for EW effectivly. I already tried looking thru the forum but it does seam to have a search engine so I gave up. I tried making a EW scorp and I came up with this 4 ECM Multispectrum jammers sensor booster 2 warp dizz(20km) 1 stasis web Would it be better to go with 5 ECM and only 1 warp dizz? I am still learnig how do setup so any help would be appreciate.
Auman	Posted - 2004.07.16 15:05:00 - [3] Edited by: Auman on 16/07/2004 15:08:28 I'd fit 5 multis if you're planning to engage BS, lots of people have tech2 back up arrays now. Also beware of engaging ppl with FOF as with no shield booster you can get stuffed.
Auman	Posted - 2004.07.16 15:05:00 - [4] Edited by: Auman on 16/07/2004 15:08:28 I'd fit 5 multis if you're planning to engage BS, lots of people have tech2 back up arrays now. Also beware of engaging ppl with FOF as with no shield booster you can get stuffed.
Sm0kE	Posted - 2004.07.16 18:56:00 - [5] highslots* 2heavy nos, 4siege medslot: 5* multispectrals, sensorbooster, 2 warpdistruptors lowslots: whatever u think would be nice :] ------------------------------------------------
Sm0kE	Posted - 2004.07.16 18:56:00 - [6] highslots* 2heavy nos, 4siege medslot: 5* multispectrals, sensorbooster, 2 warpdistruptors lowslots: whatever u think would be nice :] ------------------------------------------------
Naqq	Posted - 2004.07.16 19:48:00 - [7] high: 4xsiege, 2x hvy nos med: 2x sensor booster, 5x multi, XL SB low 2x Pow diag t2, cap relay, backuparray t2 -- "Yarrr..." [FRIG] promotional video\|Training film #1\|Training film #2\| \|Newsreels: #1,#2,#3(NEW).\|
Naqq	Posted - 2004.07.16 19:48:00 - [8] high: 4xsiege, 2x hvy nos med: 2x sensor booster, 5x multi, XL SB low 2x Pow diag t2, cap relay, backuparray t2 -- "Yarrr..." [FRIG] promotional video\|Training film #1\|Training film #2\| \|Newsreels: #1,#2,#3(NEW).\|
slothe	Posted - 2004.07.16 20:24:00 - [9] 4multi and 1 caldari specific best Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public" http://www.khainestar.com/eve
slothe	Posted - 2004.07.16 20:24:00 - [10] 4multi and 1 caldari specific best Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public" http://www.khainestar.com/eve
GeorgeZ	Posted - 2004.07.17 00:44:00 - [11] Edited by: GeorgeZ on 17/07/2004 00:48:11 Edited by: GeorgeZ on 17/07/2004 00:47:41 Originally by: Auman Also beware of engaging ppl with FOF as with no shield booster you can get stuffed. Somebody told me that you cant actually fire FOF missles if you are jammned. I never actually tested that so I dont really know. But if they can fire FOF what should I do? run? So I shouldnt use the stasis web? I thought it would be useful against the pesky interceptors. How other way can you deal with ceptor if you are in a scorp?
GeorgeZ	Posted - 2004.07.17 00:44:00 - [12] Edited by: GeorgeZ on 17/07/2004 00:48:11 Edited by: GeorgeZ on 17/07/2004 00:47:41 Originally by: Auman Also beware of engaging ppl with FOF as with no shield booster you can get stuffed. Somebody told me that you cant actually fire FOF missles if you are jammned. I never actually tested that so I dont really know. But if they can fire FOF what should I do? run? So I shouldnt use the stasis web? I thought it would be useful against the pesky interceptors. How other way can you deal with ceptor if you are in a scorp?
Stevo	Posted - 2004.07.17 07:00:00 - [13] dude if you wanna keep your cap....use dampeners....If you get some good ones, most of the time if will get a bs targeting range down in the 1k to 9k range....then just keep out of range and they CANT lock you and if they do get in range it will take them like 200seconds to lock you...and by then they should be close to dying if not dead - WAR IS NOT ABOUT WHO IS RIGHT, BUT WHO IS LEFT -
Stevo	Posted - 2004.07.17 07:00:00 - [14] dude if you wanna keep your cap....use dampeners....If you get some good ones, most of the time if will get a bs targeting range down in the 1k to 9k range....then just keep out of range and they CANT lock you and if they do get in range it will take them like 200seconds to lock you...and by then they should be close to dying if not dead - WAR IS NOT ABOUT WHO IS RIGHT, BUT WHO IS LEFT -
Jarjar	Posted - 2004.07.17 12:24:00 - [15] Originally by: Stevo dude if you wanna keep your cap....use dampeners....If you get some good ones, most of the time if will get a bs targeting range down in the 1k to 9k range....then just keep out of range and they CANT lock you and if they do get in range it will take them like 200seconds to lock you...and by then they should be close to dying if not dead Unless they're in a close-range ship and does it right. If they do that dampening scorp will be long gone within a minute
Jarjar	Posted - 2004.07.17 12:24:00 - [16] Originally by: Stevo dude if you wanna keep your cap....use dampeners....If you get some good ones, most of the time if will get a bs targeting range down in the 1k to 9k range....then just keep out of range and they CANT lock you and if they do get in range it will take them like 200seconds to lock you...and by then they should be close to dying if not dead Unless they're in a close-range ship and does it right. If they do that dampening scorp will be long gone within a minute
GeorgeZ	Posted - 2004.07.17 17:15:00 - [17] Originally by: Jarjar Originally by: Stevo dude if you wanna keep your cap....use dampeners....If you get some good ones, most of the time if will get a bs targeting range down in the 1k to 9k range....then just keep out of range and they CANT lock you and if they do get in range it will take them like 200seconds to lock you...and by then they should be close to dying if not dead Unless they're in a close-range ship and does it right. If they do that dampening scorp will be long gone within a minute If I use dampeners how many should I use and how could I keep my distance from a short range bs? Should I use MWD or is there another way to do it?
GeorgeZ	Posted - 2004.07.17 17:15:00 - [18] Originally by: Jarjar Originally by: Stevo dude if you wanna keep your cap....use dampeners....If you get some good ones, most of the time if will get a bs targeting range down in the 1k to 9k range....then just keep out of range and they CANT lock you and if they do get in range it will take them like 200seconds to lock you...and by then they should be close to dying if not dead Unless they're in a close-range ship and does it right. If they do that dampening scorp will be long gone within a minute If I use dampeners how many should I use and how could I keep my distance from a short range bs? Should I use MWD or is there another way to do it?
Dash Ripcock	Posted - 2004.07.17 17:24:00 - [19] Originally by: GeorgeZ Edited by: GeorgeZ on 17/07/2004 00:48:11 Edited by: GeorgeZ on 17/07/2004 00:47:41 Originally by: Auman Also beware of engaging ppl with FOF as with no shield booster you can get stuffed. Somebody told me that you cant actually fire FOF missles if you are jammned. I never actually tested that so I dont really know. But if they can fire FOF what should I do? run? Oh yeah, trust me they work - if you're set-up for ECM and you bump into a Raven packed to the gills with FOFs, run like hell because it will strip the ** out of you without any shield-tanking strapped on (running shouldn't be a problem, because if he's jammed he can't use his scrambler, natch). Originally by:** GeorgeZ So I shouldnt use the stasis web? I thought it would be useful against the pesky interceptors. How other way can you deal with ceptor if you are in a scorp? If you're packing Heavy Nosferatus, those are your anti-interceptor weapon. They require no tracking whatsoever, so if the attacker slips under 21Km suck him dry and he'll either be forced to make a hasty retreat, or face the wrath of your drone squadron... Battle Angels Inc - The Movie
Dash Ripcock	Posted - 2004.07.17 17:24:00 - [20] Originally by: GeorgeZ Edited by: GeorgeZ on 17/07/2004 00:48:11 Edited by: GeorgeZ on 17/07/2004 00:47:41 Originally by: Auman Also beware of engaging ppl with FOF as with no shield booster you can get stuffed. Somebody told me that you cant actually fire FOF missles if you are jammned. I never actually tested that so I dont really know. But if they can fire FOF what should I do? run? Oh yeah, trust me they work - if you're set-up for ECM and you bump into a Raven packed to the gills with FOFs, run like hell because it will strip the ** out of you without any shield-tanking strapped on (running shouldn't be a problem, because if he's jammed he can't use his scrambler, natch). Originally by:** GeorgeZ So I shouldnt use the stasis web? I thought it would be useful against the pesky interceptors. How other way can you deal with ceptor if you are in a scorp? If you're packing Heavy Nosferatus, those are your anti-interceptor weapon. They require no tracking whatsoever, so if the attacker slips under 21Km suck him dry and he'll either be forced to make a hasty retreat, or face the wrath of your drone squadron... Battle Angels Inc - The Movie
Jokastis	Posted - 2004.07.18 01:42:00 - [21] About the Dampeners.... What if they lock first? The dampeners don't work then right?
Jokastis	Posted - 2004.07.18 01:42:00 - [22] About the Dampeners.... What if they lock first? The dampeners don't work then right?
Freemannr1	Posted - 2004.07.18 02:12:00 - [23] they work.. if they already have lock on you it will break the lock.. if it is over there targeting range...if not you are *******.. gl and hf mate
Freemannr1	Posted - 2004.07.18 02:12:00 - [24] they work.. if they already have lock on you it will break the lock.. if it is over there targeting range...if not you are *******.. gl and hf mate
GeorgeZ	Posted - 2004.07.18 02:38:00 - [25] Edited by: GeorgeZ on 18/07/2004 02:41:01 I got a pretty good idea on how to use ECMs, the only thing I dont get why would anyone equipe 4 specifc ECMs instead of 4 ECM multi. Is it better? Now I am trying to figure the whole dampeners thing, so could someone plz tell me how is the best way to equipe a scorp with dampeners. How many should I use? I am guessing if you use dampeners you want to stay as far from the target as possible, so should I use MWDs? Should I put 4 guns instead of bays or do they have the same range? Any help would be very apreciated
GeorgeZ	Posted - 2004.07.18 02:38:00 - [26] Edited by: GeorgeZ on 18/07/2004 02:41:01 I got a pretty good idea on how to use ECMs, the only thing I dont get why would anyone equipe 4 specifc ECMs instead of 4 ECM multi. Is it better? Now I am trying to figure the whole dampeners thing, so could someone plz tell me how is the best way to equipe a scorp with dampeners. How many should I use? I am guessing if you use dampeners you want to stay as far from the target as possible, so should I use MWDs? Should I put 4 guns instead of bays or do they have the same range? Any help would be very apreciated
Arciadian	Posted - 2004.07.18 08:44:00 - [27] it actually all boils down to the range of your warp disruptors. You have to make them stay and fight first. Then you arange the rest of your equipment around that. ECM works great except for FOF's. To fix the FOF problem you need a passive targeter I believe. well good luck man. I hope I helped.
Arciadian	Posted - 2004.07.18 08:44:00 - [28] it actually all boils down to the range of your warp disruptors. You have to make them stay and fight first. Then you arange the rest of your equipment around that. ECM works great except for FOF's. To fix the FOF problem you need a passive targeter I believe. well good luck man. I hope I helped.
GeorgeZ	Posted - 2004.07.18 14:50:00 - [29] Originally by: Arciadian it actually all boils down to the range of your warp disruptors. You have to make them stay and fight first. Then you arange the rest of your equipment around that. ECM works great except for FOF's. To fix the FOF problem you need a passive targeter I believe. well good luck man. I hope I helped. I didnt actually test this, but a lot of people told me that the passive targeter wont help against FOFs missles cause the FOFs just target the the closesest ship that is firing on the guy with FOFs. I dont really know if any of the guys tested that. And I for one would really like passive targeter to work against FOFs. So does anyone know for sure if the passive targeter works?
GeorgeZ	Posted - 2004.07.18 14:50:00 - [30] Originally by: Arciadian it actually all boils down to the range of your warp disruptors. You have to make them stay and fight first. Then you arange the rest of your equipment around that. ECM works great except for FOF's. To fix the FOF problem you need a passive targeter I believe. well good luck man. I hope I helped. I didnt actually test this, but a lot of people told me that the passive targeter wont help against FOFs missles cause the FOFs just target the the closesest ship that is firing on the guy with FOFs. I dont really know if any of the guys tested that. And I for one would really like passive targeter to work against FOFs. So does anyone know for sure if the passive targeter works?
GeorgeZ	Posted - 2004.07.19 01:32:00 - [31] Edited by: GeorgeZ on 19/07/2004 13:54:41 Edited by: GeorgeZ on 19/07/2004 13:53:06 I tried to make a scorp which bases on dampeners : high 4425 rails 2cruise launchers med 5remote sensor dampeners 1sensor booster 1tracking computer 1mwd low 1magnetic stab 3power control unit What do you guys think? Btw is the mwd really useful in a real fight? I only tested this on a friend. Plz feel comment.
GeorgeZ	Posted - 2004.07.19 01:32:00 - [32] Edited by: GeorgeZ on 19/07/2004 13:54:41 Edited by: GeorgeZ on 19/07/2004 13:53:06 I tried to make a scorp which bases on dampeners : high 4425 rails 2cruise launchers med 5remote sensor dampeners 1sensor booster 1tracking computer 1mwd low 1magnetic stab 3power control unit What do you guys think? Btw is the mwd really useful in a real fight? I only tested this on a friend. Plz feel comment.
GeorgeZ	Posted - 2004.07.20 02:52:00 - [33] here's another idea I had: high 2425 rails 4cruise lunchers med 4dampeners 1sensor booster 2stasis webs 1mwd low ballistic control power digs Any thoughts welcomed. Plz!!
GeorgeZ	Posted - 2004.07.20 02:52:00 - [34] here's another idea I had: high 2425 rails 4cruise lunchers med 4dampeners 1sensor booster 2stasis webs 1mwd low ballistic control power digs Any thoughts welcomed. Plz!!
Lentia	Posted - 2004.07.20 16:52:00 - [35] Originally by: GeorgeZ here's another idea I had: high 2425 rails 4cruise lunchers med 4dampeners 1sensor booster 2stasis webs 1mwd low ballistic control power digs Any thoughts welcomed. Plz!! Yes couple thoughts: 1) 425s are long range guns, why in the world would you want stasis web which is short range, let alone 2 of them 2) where is you cap coming from? no relays, rechargers or even injectors. Cap is life, without cap you die. 3) No defenses at all? No sheild and no armor? Is this a suicide ship? Just because someone is dampened, believe me FoF cruise missles and drones will hurt. IN general: 1) Focus on short range or long range 2) Make sure u have cap 3) Focus on shield or armor defense 4) For a Fleet EW setup, pick ONE role and do it well. 6) A solo PvP setup is different from a fleet PvP setup. YOu kinda have to do it all, Lentia Military Officer http://www.staf.online-guild.com/
Lentia	Posted - 2004.07.20 16:52:00 - [36] Originally by: GeorgeZ here's another idea I had: high 2425 rails 4cruise lunchers med 4dampeners 1sensor booster 2stasis webs 1mwd low ballistic control power digs Any thoughts welcomed. Plz!! Yes couple thoughts: 1) 425s are long range guns, why in the world would you want stasis web which is short range, let alone 2 of them 2) where is you cap coming from? no relays, rechargers or even injectors. Cap is life, without cap you die. 3) No defenses at all? No sheild and no armor? Is this a suicide ship? Just because someone is dampened, believe me FoF cruise missles and drones will hurt. IN general: 1) Focus on short range or long range 2) Make sure u have cap 3) Focus on shield or armor defense 4) For a Fleet EW setup, pick ONE role and do it well. 6) A solo PvP setup is different from a fleet PvP setup. YOu kinda have to do it all, Lentia Military Officer http://www.staf.online-guild.com/

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