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Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 57	Posted - 2012.04.11 19:10:00 - [1] - Quote Dirk Decibel wrote: Quite a bad conversion rate too though. If you buy your plex for 15 bucks that leaves you with 300 bucks a card. It wouldn't be a particularly smart idea to buy PLEX with RL money in order to get a graphics card, but that's not what CCP intends for you to do. This offer appeals to people like me, who think of 20 PLEX / 10b isk as the product of a day's gameplay. If they don't sell out in the first 5 minutes, I'll have a new graphics card for my 2nd PC and another for my 'missus to upgrade hers.
Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 57	Posted - 2012.04.12 05:40:00 - [2] - Quote Lecherito wrote: You're really bragging about stealing other people's wealth? Tosser. -L No. But if misinterpreting my post makes you call me names then it's all good.
Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 58	Posted - 2012.04.12 08:27:00 - [3] - Quote Dirk Decibel wrote: What you all seem to be forgetting is that EVERY single PLEX in game is created through RL money. So CCP DID get those 300+ bucks for every card they sell. Actually they got the "300+ bucks" for selling the PLEX, not the card. Who knows what the value of a PLEX is to CCP? They could value it as the cost of providing a month of subscription or something else. The cost of posting the graphics card to a customer could be more or less than the cost of providing a month of subscription. Who knows if they paid NVIDIA for the cards or not, or if that payment was in money, services or good will. If I exchange 20 PLEX for a graphics card, I am not paying "300+ bucks" of my money for it. I am paying 20 PLEX which someone else paid "300+ bucks" for. I could use those 20 PLEX to sub my accounts for a long time or I could do something else with them. Given the amount of isk I have relative to the amount of RL money I have, it would be foolish for me to spend RL money on an EVE subscription. Equally, it would be foolish for me to spend RL money on a new graphics card when CCP are offering me one for 10b isk.
Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 58	Posted - 2012.04.12 09:40:00 - [4] - Quote Dirk Decibel wrote: You can dice and slice that any way you want, it's a crappy deal. For who?
Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 58	Posted - 2012.04.12 10:08:00 - [5] - Quote Dirk Decibel wrote: Bad Bobby wrote: Dirk Decibel wrote: You can dice and slice that any way you want, it's a crappy deal. For who? For everyone not able to throw away 10+ billion isk or the equivalent of that in RL money they would be saving on EVE subs by using that isk for gametime. So for some people it isn't a "crappy deal" and that was my original point. Just the same as in real life where for some people spending a million pounds on a car is ridiculous extravagance but for others it's a minor luxury that can be purchased at a whim.
Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 58	Posted - 2012.04.12 10:21:00 - [6] - Quote Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Guys you don't really get it (only BB comes close). This is the first time you can RMT in EvE with CCP's OK. You can turn PLEX in a real good that you can resell at will. The possibilities of this "bad deal" are endless. This is the first step towards mainstream professional EVE playing.
Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 58	Posted - 2012.04.12 10:33:00 - [7] - Quote CCP already had me as a guaranteed subscriber until either the EVE servers or my brain gets switched off. But if they follow this route then I'll be "playing" a whole lot more and "working" a whole lot less.
Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 58	Posted - 2012.04.12 11:22:00 - [8] - Quote Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Plenty of players who don't know what to do with their billions or trillions, they'd be more than glad to be "fooled" with those atrocious offers so they can convert their equivalent $10k in ISK into REAL $5k. Exactly. It's the same as when Wired claimed that T4U earned me -ú42,000. There is no way I could have converted the isk into -ú42,000. Even if I had chosen to break the EULA, which is an option that I wouldn't even consider, I would not have got -ú42,000. Now I have twice as much isk as I had back then, but I still can't exchange it for -ú84,000. If CCP offered me -ú20,000 for it today, I'd take that offer without a second thought. The question is, how low a price would I accept?
Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 58	Posted - 2012.04.12 13:34:00 - [9] - Quote enterprisePSI wrote: 1 plex = 19.95 euro , 20 plex = 399 euro, for a 199 euro card . Nope :) PLEX can be bought for 19.95 Euro (or whatever) but they cannot be sold for that. Even if you breached the EULA you couldn't sell them for that. This is the only way you can sell PLEX for RL cash without breaking the EULA. The card costs me 10b, which is a few hours of isk making. I'd take that offer since it would take about the same amount of time to earn the RL currency to buy it, but it wouldn't be as fun.
Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 60	Posted - 2012.04.12 16:06:00 - [10] - Quote All we've established so far is that CCP's web servers aren't up to much... which I think we already knew.
Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 60	Posted - 2012.04.12 17:48:00 - [11] - Quote Aurel Svenson wrote: Time is money. If you're turning game time into real life value it's a job, and it pays really poorly. That, obviously, depends on how much money you get for your time. -ú100 for 10b earned at 1b/hour is -ú10/hour. For reference UK minimum wage is -ú6.08/hour.
Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 60	Posted - 2012.04.12 18:03:00 - [12] - Quote Sold out after 1 minute. I think we can say that was popular.
Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 60	Posted - 2012.04.12 18:15:00 - [13] - Quote Zero Incognito wrote: where was it even offered on the account page? i did not see any links leading to it and i still dont They appeared for about a minute, so you missed them.
Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 60	Posted - 2012.04.12 19:41:00 - [14] - Quote Sydney Nelson wrote: If we assume that 10% of the EVE population knows how to make 10bil isk/day, and they could conceivably cash-in for $6000/month RL money. I'd settle for 0.1% of the EVE population being able to convert isk at a truely horrific exchange rate for -ú1000/month in RL money. Limited offers of -ú100 for 10b may be both unsustainable and inaccesible, but there must exist a ratio that could work if CCP were willing.
Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 60	Posted - 2012.04.12 20:35:00 - [15] - Quote Sydney Nelson wrote: Obviously the exact numbers are debatable, but the basis of my point is still the same. If people are able to turn ISK into RL money, people WILL figure-out how to make "OMG, WTF, PWN, L33T" amounts of ISK/hour. You and Jayden claim to be making these HUGE amounts of ISK in relatively short amounts of time. Let's assume that you are being honest about making 10bil in a day, do you really think the majority of the EVE player-base can't do the same thing as you do? It's some perfectly-guarded secret that will go with you to the grave, and others will never be able to figure it out? Get real. If RL money is on the line, people will make raking-in huge amounts of ISK their priority in the game. Consequently, with all these people making lots of ISK, there will be massive inflation of ISK. Your "0.1%" figure is completely ridiculous. I'm sorry, but other gamers aren't going to pay anyone (except CCP) thousands of $ per month. Not gonna happen. 0.1%, 0.01%, 0.001% whatever level of exclusivity the EVE rich boys club would have to achieve in order for playing to become a viable career. It's not unreasonable to slip a 10p a month tithe on the peasants of EVE so that the nobility can sit at ease. On the subject of income streams, I agree that you cannot rely on a secret formula for long. I'd expect the position of EVE nobility would be a transient one that is heavily fought over.
Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 63	Posted - 2012.04.13 16:32:00 - [16] - Quote Yes, I fully understand what you are saying and did the first time you said it. While I have no idea if my fellow dreamers claims of wealth are authentic or otherwise, I would say that 4.5b a day is a trivial target for an experienced and knowledgeable EVE player. 800m - 1b per hour is both achievable and sustainable through efficient carebearing alone, before you even consider the obviously more scaleable alternatives in trade and manufacturing.
Bad Bobby Bring Me Sunshine 63	Posted - 2012.04.13 19:25:00 - [17] - Quote Sydney Nelson wrote: However, homeboy claims that he could make 4.5b per HOUR, not per day. Yes, I missread his post. But he does say 9b per day for 2 hours work, so I assume he's trading.

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