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KeepAccountGoingForever
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Posted - 2008.12.15 21:47:00 -
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Can someone explain how ore radius translates into units of ore?
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Copying Machine
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Posted - 2008.12.15 22:40:00 -
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I have no idea what "ore radius" is, but if you mean "ore volume", then every ore has its own translation ration. But you don't need to translate ore volume into units, really. The mining laser is calibrated in volume per cycle, so just translate volume into isks directly.
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Stozy
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.12.15 22:53:00 -
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The bigger the radius, the more ore the astroid has. -------------------------------------------
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KeepAccountGoingForever
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Posted - 2008.12.15 23:50:00 -
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Edited by: KeepAccountGoingForever on 15/12/2008 23:51:12
Originally by: Stozy The bigger the radius, the more ore the astroid has.
But whats the formula for radius -> ore yeilded?
For people who don't know what I mean
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Mr Xofar
Burning Technologies
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Posted - 2008.12.16 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: KeepAccountGoingForever Edited by: KeepAccountGoingForever on 15/12/2008 23:51:12
Originally by: Stozy The bigger the radius, the more ore the astroid has.
But whats the formula for radius -> ore yeilded?
For people who don't know what I mean
I've been looking for that formula for years, and honestly, I don't think there is a straight forward, radiusX = Yunitsofore formula. You can only get within "close" approximation, and then even that isn't always reliable.
At one time I created a lookup table of radius' and units of scanned pyrox. I couldn't get a significant consistency to come up with a forumla reliable enough to say for sure how much ore was in the roid. ------------------
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2008.12.16 09:06:00 -
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You know you can use a survey scanner to see how much ore is in an asteroid right? If you just want to know out of curiosity, that's cool, but I'm afraid I can't help you there.
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PuRuSkA
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Posted - 2008.12.16 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: PuRuSkA on 16/12/2008 11:58:05 seem to me if a radius is near 90.0m¦ it is very few amount of unit not to say 0 :) i don't know if that change ore to ore, but the best you could do is observe with a survey scanner note radius and unit amount and make out some graphic/chart :)
oh and do this monday or friday after dt so the roid would actualy not missing unit :)
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Commander Aeris
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.16 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: PuRuSkA Edited by: PuRuSkA on 16/12/2008 11:58:05 seem to me if a radius is near 90.0m¦ it is very few amount of unit not to say 0 :) i don't know if that change ore to ore, but the best you could do is observe with a survey scanner note radius and unit amount and make out some graphic/chart :)
oh and do this monday or friday after dt so the roid would actualy not missing unit :)
Dont want to sound harsh...but radius is the line extending from the centre of a circle (or other object) to the outer edge
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Blazing Fire
Interstellar Operations Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.12.16 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Aeris
Originally by: PuRuSkA ...
Dont want to sound harsh...but radius is the line extending from the centre of a circle (or other object) to the outer edge
You do know that the radius of an asteroid decreases while you mine it, right?
The OP wants to check the amount of ore in the roid without using the survey scanner just by looking at the roid's radius.
For sure the different roids have different amounts as they have different initial sizes.
If anyone knows the formula let me know, I look for it also.
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KeepAccountGoingForever
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Posted - 2008.12.17 03:33:00 -
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So we're saying Radius -> Ore Content is impossible to say?:p
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Mr Xofar
Burning Technologies
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Posted - 2008.12.17 05:07:00 -
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Originally by: KeepAccountGoingForever So we're saying Radius -> Ore Content is impossible to say?:p
Correct. Use a scanner. And the radius does not change, it remains the same even if you stop and restart the laser.
I suppose that will change in some update, one day, in the distant future...very distant; when they introduce roid mining effects on the roid itself,...maybe. Meh, don't count on it. ------------------
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PuRuSkA
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Posted - 2008.12.20 05:55:00 -
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Edited by: PuRuSkA on 20/12/2008 05:56:25
Originally by: Commander Aeris
Originally by: PuRuSkA Edited by: PuRuSkA on 16/12/2008 11:58:05 seem to me if a radius is near 90.0m¦ it is very few amount of unit not to say 0 :) i don't know if that change ore to ore, but the best you could do is observe with a survey scanner note radius and unit amount and make out some graphic/chart :)
oh and do this monday or friday after dt so the roid would actualy not missing unit :)
Dont want to sound harsh...but radius is the line extending from the centre of a circle (or other object) to the outer edge
you don't sound hars just noob :) acording to the REAL formula of sphere radius a vedlspar ore of 100m radius would have 4/3(3.14*radius¦) = 4 186 667 m¦ of ore which mean at 0.10m¦ for each unit 40 milions unit, and we all know that is not true
true observation of roid is the only way to know and i tell you i never saw an ore radius under 90.0 and when it is close to 90.0 it is very small roid with not much unit
and yeah the radius of a roid don't update before downtime and maybe not before the next respawn not sure if it does each down time
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G'kek
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Posted - 2008.12.20 17:27:00 -
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I'd be quite interested in this myself. I've squeezed a MLU onto my retriver and as a result I can't actually fit a survey scanner on my ship. :-p
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ingenting
20th Legion Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.21 07:36:00 -
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There is no way to get the ore amount from the radius.
For example you have a big roid of veldspar, say 100k units, and you mine until it's only a few K left, it's still the same radius, IIRC (at work so cant say for sure). _________________ - "Welcome to EVE, remember to insu *BAAOOM*... Told you, newb." |
Xavier Iblis
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Posted - 2008.12.21 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: PuRuSkA Edited by: PuRuSkA on 20/12/2008 12:45:00 Edited by: PuRuSkA on 20/12/2008 05:56:25
Originally by: Commander Aeris
Originally by: PuRuSkA Edited by: PuRuSkA on 16/12/2008 11:58:05 seem to me if a radius is near 90.0m¦ it is very few amount of unit not to say 0 :) i don't know if that change ore to ore, but the best you could do is observe with a survey scanner note radius and unit amount and make out some graphic/chart :)
oh and do this monday or friday after dt so the roid would actualy not missing unit :)
Dont want to sound harsh...but radius is the line extending from the centre of a circle (or other object) to the outer edge
you don't sound harsh just noob :) acording to the REAL formula of sphere radius a vedlspar ore of 100m radius would have 4/3(3.14*radius¦) = 4 186 667 m¦ of ore which mean at 0.10m¦ for each unit 40 milions unit, and we all know that is not true
true observation of roid is the only way to know and i tell you i never saw an ore radius under 90.0 and when it is close to 90.0 it is very small roid with not much unit
and yeah the radius of a roid don't update before downtime and maybe not before the next respawn not sure if it does each down time
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You're assuming that the Asteroid is completely Veldspar (or other ore). Much more likely that it's a heterogeneous mixture of Veldspar and other unusable rock/metals and that the mining lasers are designed to target the veins of Veldspar in the otherwise unusable rock. So from that 4.186 x 10^6 m^3, maybe only 200,000 is actually Veldspar. Hence why we here "Asteroid Depleted" and it being a "Shattered hulk" than "Asteroid Consumed"... Then again, the Asteroid does disappear when you're done.
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Karanth
Gallente Independent Fleet Space Exploration and Logistic Services
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Posted - 2008.12.22 13:02:00 -
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Radius is like the information you get when you look at a planet: it doesn't mean a thing.
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foobarx
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Posted - 2008.12.22 18:10:00 -
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You do know that the radius of an asteroid decreases while you mine it, right?
This is wrong. The size of the asteroid never changes as a result of mining. That's supposed to change at some point, but it hasn't yet.
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