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FeCralloy
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Posted - 2008.12.15 22:57:00 -
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Because of the complexity of manufacturing and my influence from Hlada's mining guide i decided to write a manufacturing guide after making my fortune at it. Everyone thats read it in my alliance enjoyed it, even those not into manufacturing. So without further adoo here is FeCralloy's Complete Guide to Manufacturing.
Fecralloy's complete guide to manufacturing
Its in a handy PDF format, for beginners and includes lots of usefull information that more experienced industry people seem to not know about.
just in case the link above didnt work: http://www.osuwe.com/Fe_guide_2_manuf_v1.3.pdf
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nether void
Caldari Shrapnel Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.15 23:30:00 -
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Had some good chuckles in there. Nice to have a guide that isn't written by Mr. Spock. hehe
I even learned a couple things! =)
Good guide. --------------------
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Lumpy McUglyface
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.12.15 23:37:00 -
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Just looking over it, a few suggestions:
-Work on your grammar: I noticed you don't particularly like capitalizing letters.... -Use higher resolution screenshots -Change your overview color scheme when making screenshots (Pink and white, really?) -The font is terrible... courier I think? Use something that is easier to read.
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RedSplat
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.12.16 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Lumpy McUglyface Just looking over it, a few suggestions:
-Work on your grammar: I noticed you don't particularly like capitalizing letters.... -Use higher resolution screenshots -Change your overview color scheme when making screenshots (Pink and white, really?) -The font is terrible... courier I think? Use something that is easier to read.
Whats wrong with pink and white? There was even talk of French toast
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Triladir
Gallente Australia and New Zealand Eve Corp FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.12.16 01:35:00 -
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reminds me of old RPG gamebooks from the 80's... Dont change a thing, looks GREAT
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FeCralloy
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Posted - 2008.12.16 04:12:00 -
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yeah i dont care about capitalizing - vain to capitalize your own name - pointless for other things and a slight waste of time. The only time its useful is to clearly show a new sentence starting. as for the resolution - its vista and i havent figured it out. - dont care that much. - perfection is a waste of time in my book. just make it function. the font is a mono-text (fixed equal width for each character like text editors) gives text an engineering/manufacturing/nerdy appearance. and as for the color scheme - pink and steel are my favorite colors so, as i say in my guide: suck on it
:) - glad yall like it though. maybe someday ccp will put it with the standard guides and ill be famous like halada
Originally by: Lumpy McUglyface Just looking over it, a few suggestions:
-Work on your grammar: I noticed you don't particularly like capitalizing letters.... -Use higher resolution screenshots -Change your overview color scheme when making screenshots (Pink and white, really?) -The font is terrible... courier I think? Use something that is easier to read.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.16 06:20:00 -
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Good Start. Halada refined his guide over years.. and is still not finished. I know this is a tall order but there is a lot more detail you could add to a manufacturing guide. I look forward to more interations.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2008.12.16 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: FeCralloy yeah i dont care about capitalizing - vain to capitalize your own name - pointless for other things and a slight waste of time. The only time its useful is to clearly show a new sentence starting. as for the resolution - its vista and i havent figured it out. - dont care that much. - perfection is a waste of time in my book. just make it function. the font is a mono-text (fixed equal width for each character like text editors) gives text an engineering/manufacturing/nerdy appearance. and as for the color scheme - pink and steel are my favorite colors so, as i say in my guide: suck on it
:) - glad yall like it though. maybe someday ccp will put it with the standard guides and ill be famous like halada
Ok, thanks. Now I know not to bother downloading it. If you can't be bothered to capitalize it properly, I can't be bothered to read it. Reading sloppily-thrown together things is a waste of time in my book.
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White Heterosexual
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.12.16 09:08:00 -
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Don't quit your day job.
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Inen
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.12.16 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: FeCralloy yeah i dont care about capitalizing - vain to capitalize your own name - pointless for other things and a slight waste of time. The only time its useful is to clearly show a new sentence starting. as for the resolution - its vista and i havent figured it out. - dont care that much. - perfection is a waste of time in my book. just make it function. the font is a mono-text (fixed equal width for each character like text editors) gives text an engineering/manufacturing/nerdy appearance. and as for the color scheme - pink and steel are my favorite colors so, as i say in my guide: suck on it
:) - glad yall like it though. maybe someday ccp will put it with the standard guides and ill be famous like halada
Originally by: Lumpy McUglyface Just looking over it, a few suggestions:
-Work on your grammar: I noticed you don't particularly like capitalizing letters.... -Use higher resolution screenshots -Change your overview color scheme when making screenshots (Pink and white, really?) -The font is terrible... courier I think? Use something that is easier to read.
If you want your guide to be taken as seriously as Halada's guide, then I suggest you take the constructive criticism seriously. You may not feel grammar, capatilization, and an easy on the eyes color scheme is important, but generally, the masses do. Since you stated you care about the masses, then you need to work on those things.
If you would like help with that, let me know and I have no problem revising your work. I grade papers for a living (7th grade English teacher).
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
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Posted - 2008.12.16 10:53:00 -
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Looks pretty good.
Granted, I did pretty much just skim it, but it looks like its spot on. Going to keep it updated/release new versions?
*** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
Lord Zoran
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2008.12.16 11:13:00 -
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great guide and made me chuckle a few times
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FeCralloy
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Posted - 2008.12.16 11:29:00 -
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point taken - ty
If you want your guide to be taken as seriously as Halada's guide, then I suggest you take the constructive criticism seriously. You may not feel grammar, capatilization, and an easy on the eyes color scheme is important, but generally, the masses do. Since you stated you care about the masses, then you need to work on those things.
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Ikthor
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Posted - 2008.12.16 14:29:00 -
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Well i like the font and color scheme because its easy to see on my Blackberry using BeamBerry so i thank you very much FeCralloy. Good work
Ikthor
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Wardo21
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Posted - 2008.12.16 14:58:00 -
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Good start. You should consider the suggestions instead of directly throwing them out. At least the one for higher res screenshots...
Check your meta level information. Tech 2 is meta 5, but BPO produced stuff should be meta 0, not 1. Civilian stuff is in a class by itself, usually in a different market group entirely.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2008.12.16 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: FeCralloy yeah i dont care about capitalizing - vain to capitalize your own name - pointless for other things and a slight waste of time. The only time its useful is to clearly show a new sentence starting. as for the resolution - its vista and i havent figured it out. - dont care that much. - perfection is a waste of time in my book. just make it function. the font is a mono-text (fixed equal width for each character like text editors) gives text an engineering/manufacturing/nerdy appearance. and as for the color scheme - pink and steel are my favorite colors so, as i say in my guide: suck on it
:) - glad yall like it though. maybe someday ccp will put it with the standard guides and ill be famous like halada
Originally by: Lumpy McUglyface Just looking over it, a few suggestions:
-Work on your grammar: I noticed you don't particularly like capitalizing letters.... -Use higher resolution screenshots -Change your overview color scheme when making screenshots (Pink and white, really?) -The font is terrible... courier I think? Use something that is easier to read.
Capitalizing is done to make print easier to read - and it is effective in that respect.
If you have such low respect for your own guide that you wont even try to make it user friendly then its probably not much good.
If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.
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Tarn Corellius
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Posted - 2008.12.16 18:24:00 -
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You have my respect for putting such a thing out for public bashing, I mean, consumption. Thanks for taking the time and making the effort. Its a great start!
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Nittri
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.12.16 18:37:00 -
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great topic, and I have to say that I really enjoyed the credits. :)
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Tadesae
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Posted - 2008.12.16 21:18:00 -
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Edited by: Tadesae on 16/12/2008 21:20:17 Edited by: Tadesae on 16/12/2008 21:19:43 Quote: If you have such low respect for your own guide that you wont even try to make it user friendly then its probably not much good
Wait a minute here......
You havent even read it!
FeCralloy, I liked the way you put it together with a little humor. I can't vouch for accuracy since I'm interested in it so I can learn a few things but I can say it was a lot of fun. (Noted the possible Meta lvl mistake)
I've printed it off for qucik access just like Hlada's mining guide if that means anything to you. I'd be interested in updates if you find the time. Thanks for putting it up.
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ScottyDosn'tKnow
Task Force Zener Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.16 21:29:00 -
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I am supprised that so many complaints about capitalization. Who cares. This guy used his spare time (or at least did it at work which I approve of. And gave tons of good info. Awesome job! Keep up the good work!
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FeCralloy
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Posted - 2008.12.16 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Nittri great topic, and I have to say that I really enjoyed the credits. :)
- LOL, yeah the credits are my favorite part too. i always tell people to read them if nothing else.
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2008.12.17 13:45:00 -
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Have only one thing to complain about. Pink and Steel.
I don't mind if you like it yourself, it just makes it pain on the eyes for everyone else. A guide is to help, not to kill someones eyes.
Balance is important, but you will always adapt to changing circumstances and you don't whine about stuff you can't change. |
Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2008.12.17 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: ScottyDosn'tKnow I am supprised that so many complaints about capitalization. Who cares.
To me, it says "I'm too lazy or don't care enough about my readers to make it easy for them to read. I don't care enough about my own guide to make it look good and be easily readable."
I don't want to read a guide written by someone with that mindset. There are plenty of well-written guides out there, so why waste time reading a sloppily-written one?
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FeCralloy
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Posted - 2008.12.17 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: FeCralloy on 17/12/2008 21:40:50
Originally by: Kyra Felann
Originally by: ScottyDosn'tKnow I am supprised that so many complaints about capitalization. Who cares.
To me, it says "I'm too lazy or don't care enough about my readers to make it easy for them to read. I don't care enough about my own guide to make it look good and be easily readable."
I don't want to read a guide written by someone with that mindset. There are plenty of well-written guides out there, so why waste time reading a sloppily-written one?
actually i went back through and didnt notice any missed capitalizations - i fail to see how it makes any difference to the functionality (exchange of information) of the guide if theres some non-information grammatical errors that you have to deliberatly look for. i do take great pride in my work but only the aspects that affect its direct function: efficient transmission of information and humor. i have to wonder if you even bothered looking at it. the color scheme being hard on the eyes is not something i had considered an issue since it only comes into a few screenshots - my "suck on it comment" was directed towards the people i expected to give me a hard time for liking those colors. on top of that, like any good artist, i didnt create it for the readers, i created it because i like doing it. i put it up because people naturally like sharing their creations. i hope yall like it, but if not im not going to cry about it.
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2008.12.18 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: Ancy Denaries on 18/12/2008 00:09:35
Originally by: FeCralloy actually i went back through and didnt notice any missed capitalizations - i fail to see how it makes any difference to the functionality (exchange of information) of the guide if theres some non-information grammatical errors that you have to deliberatly look for. i do take great pride in my work but only the aspects that affect its direct function: efficient transmission of information and humor. i have to wonder if you even bothered looking at it. the color scheme being hard on the eyes is not something i had considered an issue since it only comes into a few screenshots - my "suck on it comment" was directed towards the people i expected to give me a hard time for liking those colors. on top of that, like any good artist, i didnt create it for the readers, i created it because i like doing it. i put it up because people naturally like sharing their creations. i hope yall like it, but if not im not going to cry about it.
I must agree. I had no problems whatsoever with capitalization, and didn't find any grammar errors that annoyed, no obvious spelling errors and the capitalization seemed okay to me. Only thing that bugged me were the pron colors. They killed my eyes. For ease of read and less eye-pain, that should be shifted to a darker color, at least for the guide. I really don't care what colors you use in game ;)
Balance is important, but you will always adapt to changing circumstances and you don't whine about stuff you can't change. |
Ms Flint
Caldari Magnum Opus Mineral Retrieval Magnum Opus.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 23:06:00 -
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First off, thankyou for this humorous and well thought-out guide! i will be contacting you in game for the spreadsheet as soon as i have the isk to spare ^^
and as for this....
Originally by: White Heterosexual Don't quit your day job.
i dont see any guides submitted by you on this forum. Perhaps evesearch is broken? ______________ remember: internet spaceships are serious business! |
Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2008.12.18 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: FeCralloy i have to wonder if you even bothered looking at it.
Nope, I didn't exactly because you said you didn't care about capitalization, you didn't care that the colors were hard to read, you said you didn't want to bother getting hi-res screenshots, etc. I was downloading it, but after I read your post defending your apathy about it, I decided it wasn't worth my time.
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FeCralloy
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Posted - 2008.12.19 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kyra Felann
Originally by: FeCralloy i have to wonder if you even bothered looking at it.
Nope, I didn't exactly because you said you didn't care about capitalization, you didn't care that the colors were hard to read, you said you didn't want to bother getting hi-res screenshots, etc. I was downloading it, but after I read your post defending your apathy about it, I decided it wasn't worth my time.
well congratulations - i see you bothered to look back to see my reply so obviously you care more about lame arguments/comments than you do about useful information.
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Mass Attack
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Posted - 2008.12.19 03:19:00 -
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Small minds cannot overcome small obstacles. Punctuation, grammar, these are useless remnants of a culture on its death bed. From a technical standpoint, which is appropriate as this is a technical guide, it is perfect in that it functions, it is relatively small and contains the vitals.
One of the people complaining above will probably jack the information from this and try to pass it as their own just because they have enough free time to sit down and make a pretty .pdf file. I also didn't notice anywhere in any of the OPs comments that he asked for approval or acclaim, he simply said here, I am willing to help. It is usually in these selfless instances that the douche-bags of the world pile on with complaints.
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FeCralloy
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Posted - 2008.12.20 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: Mass Attack Small minds cannot overcome small obstacles. Punctuation, grammar, these are useless remnants of a culture on its death bed. From a technical standpoint, which is appropriate as this is a technical guide, it is perfect in that it functions, it is relatively small and contains the vitals.
One of the people complaining above will probably jack the information from this and try to pass it as their own just because they have enough free time to sit down and make a pretty .pdf file. I also didn't notice anywhere in any of the OPs comments that he asked for approval or acclaim, he simply said here, I am willing to help. It is usually in these selfless instances that the douche-bags of the world pile on with complaints.
there is an engineer among us! - mass attack: may the metric system be with you
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