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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.12.17 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Katie Adubi Edited by: Katie Adubi on 17/12/2008 03:53:44 not really, i myself hate math so all i can be a thoerist, i find it funny, but i want to create the new space age, i have plans that could work. Even if we colonize mars who wants to drink recycled pee :)
yeah but the best math people are all ABOUT theory. :P IT's true, it's how complex math is found, by people that don't know the rules:)
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Katie Adubi
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Posted - 2008.12.17 23:05:00 -
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well that sucks, i hate math, another growling day at school. Thanks for all the posts guys
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2008.12.17 23:31:00 -
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Just to explain the background on Dark Matter/Energy so it can be put into context, the maths may be a bit ahead of you but I hope you get the general idea (general, gettit? ).
Taking the solar system as a graph, the x axis as distance from the sun, y axis being the velocity at which the planets orbit the sun. It looks like a 1/x graph, as distance from the sun increases the attraction of it's gravity decreases and lower velocities are needed to maintain altitude.
Extrapolating this as what makes Newtonian mechanics work, this was tested on Galaxies... where it all went arse over ****. It ends up as having nearly the same, uniform speed of all stars within a galaxy, meaning that there has to be a lot more mass than can be directly seen, ergo dark matter. The stuff in theory (at this point in the story) accounted for 94% of the universe.
Fast forward a little, and it in an experiment to see if the universe will expand to infinite and then die like that, or contract over the collective gravity pulling lightly on each other and collapsing back into a singularity. Again arse over ****, its accelerating. The amount of energy needed to accelerate it takes up a nice chunk of dark matter using E=mc^2, which dictates the relationship between energy and mass. By the same token an accelerating to c (light speed) universe becomes more massive as it accelerates.
Phew, that took a while to think over and remember, hope that helps with the theory Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Haruhiists - Supporting Linkification since 2008
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Katie Adubi
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Posted - 2008.12.17 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Arianhod
Fast forward a little, and it in an experiment to see if the universe will expand to infinite and then die like that, or contract over the collective gravity pulling lightly on each other and collapsing back into a singularity. Again arse over ****, its accelerating. The amount of energy needed to accelerate it takes up a nice chunk of dark matter using E=mc^2, which dictates the relationship between energy and mass. By the same token an accelerating to c (light speed) universe becomes more massive as it accelerates.
Thats where my theory started. A form of dark matter expanding or making space and then moving it away for another essential "big bang"
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.18 00:08:00 -
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As often, I look to Terry Pratchett for understanding/inspiration:
"In the beginning, there was nothing, which exploded."
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Katie Adubi
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Posted - 2008.12.18 00:16:00 -
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fasinating... Yet we have no trace of the beginning. So people and there theories say that they are essentialy right. I think my theory sums them all up and im reading the string theory. And hopefully other people know about more so i can further modify it.
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Katie Adubi
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Posted - 2008.12.18 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: mercyonman ok first i am 15. and well conjure up many wild things like this and that which i will not state.
but i find in order to answer my questions, i answer smaller questions in the equation. ok my first question for you is, what CAUSES the called "big bangs" to happen. second. if these big bangs happened from gas hitting other gas or particles violently clashing into each other how did planets and star materialize. stars aren't solid. also, if molecules collide with other molecules won't that just cause the molecules to move. add hot steam with even hotter steam and what will happen?
I think what causes big bangs is one super molecule that gets presurized so uch it implodes and then explodes to the frontiers of space
Planets come to their very own form of gravity, so much mass comes in in a ackward shape then gravity makes it formed to what seems to be a perfect sphere but is really covered with mountains and oceans.
I recently learned this is science that molecules colide they bounce off each other, basic bouyancy. like if you throw a basketball at anotherone in the air they fly away form each other.
HOPE you get a look at this mercyonman
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Katie Adubi
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Posted - 2008.12.18 00:59:00 -
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Anyone else have exiting theories to throw on me
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Katie Adubi
Originally by: mercyonman ok first i am 15. and well conjure up many wild things like this and that which i will not state.
but i find in order to answer my questions, i answer smaller questions in the equation. ok my first question for you is, what CAUSES the called "big bangs" to happen. second. if these big bangs happened from gas hitting other gas or particles violently clashing into each other how did planets and star materialize. stars aren't solid. also, if molecules collide with other molecules won't that just cause the molecules to move. add hot steam with even hotter steam and what will happen?
I think what causes big bangs is one super molecule that gets presurized so uch it implodes and then explodes to the frontiers of space
Planets come to their very own form of gravity, so much mass comes in in a ackward shape then gravity makes it formed to what seems to be a perfect sphere but is really covered with mountains and oceans.
I recently learned this is science that molecules colide they bounce off each other, basic bouyancy. like if you throw a basketball at anotherone in the air they fly away form each other.
HOPE you get a look at this mercyonman
Well theres a problem with that, and that is blackholes dont explode, they keep imploding.
And if the entire universe was compressed as you said then in theory the gravity would just crush itself into a very tiny particle and remain like that for the duration of the blackhole's lifespan.
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Cierejai
Caldari BlackSite Prophecy
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Posted - 2008.12.18 12:10:00 -
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The universe is the shape of a inverse doughnut. Assuming I used incorrect terminology, the "hole" of the doughnut is a massive black hole, which twists around itself and comes back spreading apart to form the outside of the doughnut before feeding back into itself. Essentially if you went through the black hole, you would eventually arrive back at it, there is an infinite number of paths you could take from A to B back to A. So the universe is not necessarily infinite, but you would never be able to leave it, thus it is infinite.
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Kurfi' Legimo
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.12.18 16:55:00 -
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Hello Kaite, check out this video series made by CBS.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/
It is called The Elegant Universe, and you can view the complete series online. Here.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2008.12.18 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Cierejai The universe is the shape of a inverse doughnut.
So...a hole then? -------------
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2008.12.18 18:03:00 -
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My theory is that the Universe is made of cheese. Black holes are inhabited by giant rats, the universe is expanding because cheese is like yeast...it expands?...
Um...so this is basically the Plane of Cheese. That's probably why space smells funky...
Voluntold, New Webcomic
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Karrade Krise My theory is that the Universe is made of cheese. Black holes are inhabited by giant rats, the universe is expanding because cheese is like yeast...it expands?...
Um...so this is basically the Plane of Cheese. That's probably why space smells funky...
Smell funky? I had no idea we invented to smelloscope.
I thought that was an invention for the 31st century?
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Wild Rho
Amarr Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2008.12.18 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: KingsGambit
Originally by: Cierejai The universe is the shape of a inverse doughnut.
So...a hole then?
Where would the jam go?
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2008.12.18 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Wild Rho
Originally by: KingsGambit
Originally by: Cierejai The universe is the shape of a inverse doughnut.
So...a hole then?
Where would the jam go?
There is no Jam, only the Superior Torus Doughnuts... Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Haruhiists - Supporting Linkification since 2008
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Harm Gently
Naughty 40
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Posted - 2008.12.18 23:21:00 -
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Oi,
Was I the only one who even noticed your q if anyone watches the Universe on History Channel? Of course I do, it's very entertaining. :)
Btw, if you want ppl to take your theories seriously in the future I think you're going to need a basic understandning of mathematics.
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2008.12.18 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: Karrade Krise My theory is that the Universe is made of cheese. Black holes are inhabited by giant rats, the universe is expanding because cheese is like yeast...it expands?...
Um...so this is basically the Plane of Cheese. That's probably why space smells funky...
Smell funky? I had no idea we invented to smelloscope.
I thought that was an invention for the 31st century?
Supposidly(sp) space has a burnt smell to it...I'll have to check and see if I can find the article...
Voluntold, New Webcomic
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.19 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Karrade Krise
Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: Karrade Krise My theory is that the Universe is made of cheese. Black holes are inhabited by giant rats, the universe is expanding because cheese is like yeast...it expands?...
Um...so this is basically the Plane of Cheese. That's probably why space smells funky...
Smell funky? I had no idea we invented to smelloscope.
I thought that was an invention for the 31st century?
Supposidly(sp) space has a burnt smell to it...I'll have to check and see if I can find the article...
..... Might I ask how they obtained this knowledge?
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Atomos Darksun
Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.19 02:14:00 -
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Space doesn't actually have a burnt smell to it.
What you're smelling is your nostrils burning from vacuum exposure.
Seriously, go try it sometime
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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Katie Adubi
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Posted - 2008.12.19 04:43:00 -
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cool, i have to read it more later
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Calvin Firenze
Minmatar Eternal Guardians Corp. The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.19 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: The TX LOL! Kids, eh?
When I was your age, Pluto was a planet.
heh, this
Also, when I was 11 I imagined an intergalactic spaceship that had technology onboard that could keep people alive indefinitely. Had something to do with watching the Stargate movie, but hell I wish I could still have that kind of an imagination.
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Katie Adubi
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Posted - 2008.12.19 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Harm Gently Oi,
Was I the only one who even noticed your q if anyone watches the Universe on History Channel? Of course I do, it's very entertaining. :)
Btw, if you want ppl to take your theories seriously in the future I think you're going to need a basic understandning of mathematics.
I dont like math, but i get A's and b's on tests, my grade explains me not wanting to do homework
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Katie Adubi
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Posted - 2008.12.19 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: Karrade Krise
Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: Karrade Krise My theory is that the Universe is made of cheese. Black holes are inhabited by giant rats, the universe is expanding because cheese is like yeast...it expands?...
Um...so this is basically the Plane of Cheese. That's probably why space smells funky...
Smell funky? I had no idea we invented to smelloscope.
I thought that was an invention for the 31st century?
Supposidly(sp) space has a burnt smell to it...I'll have to check and see if I can find the article...
..... Might I ask how they obtained this knowledge?
i have no clue...
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.20 02:21:00 -
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The problem I see with the big bang theory is that it presumes that the universe is finite. That leads to questions about what is beyond the finite barrier. Alternate universe theory is reasonable to explain that thre is something beyond but it then leads to further questions.
One theory says that the universe we know is just a single atom making up something far larger. The other 'alternate' universe would be other atoms. Each atom that goes to make up our universe is a universe itself - ad infinitum (into infinity).
It would be logical to then presume that when we set off a nuclear explosion, we are bringing about the big bang in each of the atoms that went into the making of the explosion and anything vapourised by it. How long before our universe is part of a nuclear explosion?
When the human mind tries to explore the infinite, it always concludes that there is a finite point and then questions what is beyond. The result is more finite layers that, in themselves, extend into infinity. Infinity is beyond our ability to comprehend and if we ever did manage to comprehend it, we would be gods in our own right.
-- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. All this has happened before and will happen again |
Katie Adubi
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Posted - 2008.12.23 21:57:00 -
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ok, got a new book, endless universes. Seems cool, ill read threw it.
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Amberfyre
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.12.23 22:06:00 -
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10 points plus an A star for trolling.
Its nice to see you knew your spelling was (and is) incorrect its even nice to see your correct spellings of the same word in other replies, I've often wondered why I get red lines underneath my poast Roger Banjo |
Katie Adubi
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Posted - 2008.12.23 23:54:00 -
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some things look the same and doesnt sound the same tho. really sucks
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2008.12.24 01:58:00 -
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All jokes aside, the reality is that there can not BE a theory on how the universe was created because there's always something that precedes/triggers that situation. Which means that the universe can never have started to exist in the first place, which in turn means the universe can not exist at all.
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7shining7one7
Gallente P0KER GHOST
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Posted - 2008.12.24 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tzar'rim All jokes aside, the reality is that there can not BE a theory on how the universe was created because there's always something that precedes/triggers that situation. Which means that the universe can never have started to exist in the first place, which in turn means the universe can not exist at all.
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