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Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.12 10:04:00 -
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The bar is kind pointless atm i cant see by looking at the bar who is ewariing me. I have to look at the overview to see who is ewaring me. Is there going to be a way to see who is ewaring from the buff bar? |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
174
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Posted - 2012.04.12 10:29:00 -
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If you mouseover the icon you can see the name of the pilot(s) ewar-ing you. If you right click on the icons you can both see the names, and also access the context menu for that pilot CCP Goliath | QA Team Lead | @CCP_Goliath |
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Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
191
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Posted - 2012.04.12 10:38:00 -
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i can haz screenshot ? |
Zerb Arus
WormSpaceWormS
2
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Posted - 2012.04.12 11:12:00 -
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Would it be much work to make hotkeys like Ctrl-Leftclick (lock target) work on that icons?
And while you are at it, could you make other hotkeys than that for locking available for watchlist entries? (orbit / approach / warpto...)
I really like the UI-team! You made my experience soo much smoother already! Now go and make me like you even more :) |
Bubanni
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
225
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Posted - 2012.04.12 11:15:00 -
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Zerb Arus wrote:Would it be much work to make hotkeys like Ctrl-Leftclick (lock target) work on that icons?
And while you are at it, could you make other hotkeys than that for locking available for watchlist entries? (orbit / approach / warpto...)
I really like the UI-team! You made my experience soo much smoother already! Now go and make me like you even more :)
Do want |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
174
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Posted - 2012.04.12 11:16:00 -
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Zerb Arus wrote:Would it be much work to make hotkeys like Ctrl-Leftclick (lock target) work on that icons?
And while you are at it, could you make other hotkeys than that for locking available for watchlist entries? (orbit / approach / warpto...)
I really like the UI-team! You made my experience soo much smoother already! Now go and make me like you even more :)
I spoke to Karkur about this and she raised the point that if you have multiple pilots applying the same effect to you, which target is targeted by Ctrl-Click? CCP Goliath | QA Team Lead | @CCP_Goliath |
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Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
38
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Posted - 2012.04.12 11:20:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote: I spoke to Karkur about this and she raised the point that if you have multiple pilots applying the same effect to you, which target is targeted by Ctrl-Click?
Target ALL the things! |
Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services The Possum Lodge
28
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Posted - 2012.04.12 11:32:00 -
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^ that....it seems so obvious to some of us players....but apparently it would be a dumb idea to target everyone e-waring you... |
Hanathor
El Gremio Segundo
1
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Posted - 2012.04.12 11:34:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Zerb Arus wrote:Would it be much work to make hotkeys like Ctrl-Leftclick (lock target) work on that icons?
And while you are at it, could you make other hotkeys than that for locking available for watchlist entries? (orbit / approach / warpto...)
I really like the UI-team! You made my experience soo much smoother already! Now go and make me like you even more :) I spoke to Karkur about this and she raised the point that if you have multiple pilots applying the same effect to you, which target is targeted by Ctrl-Click?
If there is one target, lock it. If there are multiple targets toggle a right click menu with the list and then allow ctrl+click on one player chosen one. |
Zerb Arus
WormSpaceWormS
2
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Posted - 2012.04.12 11:41:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:i can haz screenshot ?
http://k162space.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/2012-04-12_ewar_notifications.png
From evenews 24. Full article: http://www.evenews24.com/2012/04/12/k162-space-inferno-escalation-test-server-changes/ |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
174
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Posted - 2012.04.12 11:42:00 -
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Hanathor wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Zerb Arus wrote:Would it be much work to make hotkeys like Ctrl-Leftclick (lock target) work on that icons?
And while you are at it, could you make other hotkeys than that for locking available for watchlist entries? (orbit / approach / warpto...)
I really like the UI-team! You made my experience soo much smoother already! Now go and make me like you even more :) I spoke to Karkur about this and she raised the point that if you have multiple pilots applying the same effect to you, which target is targeted by Ctrl-Click? If there is one target, lock it. If there are multiple targets toggle a right click menu with the list and then allow ctrl+click on one player chosen one.
That is actually a very complex solution with a large potential to break I would think. For "target all the things", just set your Auto Target Back to 12 and you'll likely accomplish this without having to click anything! CCP Goliath | QA Team Lead | @CCP_Goliath |
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Malkshurr
CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 11:55:00 -
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repost
"Status Effects Panel Notification
Status effects - commonly known as buffs and debuffs - currently active on your ship will now display in a more visible and intuitive Notification Panel on your screen, similar to other mainstream MMOs."
I checked how it works and now shows only negative effect. R sensor boosting, reping, cap transfers, and fleet bonus are not displayed.
what buffs effect are displayed and are they at all ?
If more than one person will be influenced us for example multiple scramblers, the panel will show the exact number ? |
Tsubutai
The Tuskers
80
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Posted - 2012.04.12 11:58:00 -
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The notification area is very nice, and I think I'll find it useful after a brief readjustment period. However, I have one complaint: the icon that shows you are being warp scrambled (and thus cannot activate your MWD) is the same as that for being warp disrupted (and able to use MWD). Given their rather different effects, I think it would be helpful to have separate icons for these two forms of tackle. |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce
234
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Posted - 2012.04.12 12:11:00 -
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Seconding the Buff part seems to be missing and while we are at it add a cloak icon to0. |
Shandir
Ferocious Felines
111
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Posted - 2012.04.12 12:13:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Hanathor wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Zerb Arus wrote:Would it be much work to make hotkeys like Ctrl-Leftclick (lock target) work on that icons?
And while you are at it, could you make other hotkeys than that for locking available for watchlist entries? (orbit / approach / warpto...)
I really like the UI-team! You made my experience soo much smoother already! Now go and make me like you even more :) I spoke to Karkur about this and she raised the point that if you have multiple pilots applying the same effect to you, which target is targeted by Ctrl-Click? If there is one target, lock it. If there are multiple targets toggle a right click menu with the list and then allow ctrl+click on one player chosen one. That is actually a very complex solution with a large potential to break I would think. For "target all the things", just set your Auto Target Back to 12 and you'll likely accomplish this without having to click anything!
Instead, design the multiple-sources as a +/- expandable item: === [EWAR] (Options include default collapsed or expanded, and sorting order by 'type', 'sources') +ECM (Jammed) [2 sources] [Total ECM strength 8] << Collapsed list, no ctrl click +Warp Scram [4 sources] [7 points] << Collapsed list, no ctrl click -Turret Disruption [3 sources] [55% penalty] << Expanded list, no ctrl click .....Bob [20%] << List item, ctrl click .....Steve [20%] << List item, ctrl click .....Mike [15%] << List item, ctrl click Sensor Linking [30% bonus] Jack << Single list item, ctrl click Target Painting [90% increase] Tony << Single list item, ctrl click === |
Tanaka Aiko
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
68
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Posted - 2012.04.12 13:04:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:For "target all the things", just set your Auto Target Back to 12 and you'll likely accomplish this without having to click anything! you should know that's a very bad idea... maybe with a very easy way to activate / desactivate the auto target, but even, i don't think it would works... |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
176
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Posted - 2012.04.12 13:33:00 -
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Tanaka Aiko wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:For "target all the things", just set your Auto Target Back to 12 and you'll likely accomplish this without having to click anything! you should know that's a very bad idea... maybe with a very easy way to activate / desactivate the auto target, but even, i don't think it would works...
Sorry I must have forgotten to add the smiley devil face that indicates I was joking CCP Goliath | QA Team Lead | @CCP_Goliath |
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Aethlyn
108
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Posted - 2012.04.12 13:55:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Zerb Arus wrote:Would it be much work to make hotkeys like Ctrl-Leftclick (lock target) work on that icons?
And while you are at it, could you make other hotkeys than that for locking available for watchlist entries? (orbit / approach / warpto...)
I really like the UI-team! You made my experience soo much smoother already! Now go and make me like you even more :) I spoke to Karkur about this and she raised the point that if you have multiple pilots applying the same effect to you, which target is targeted by Ctrl-Click?
The last ship triggering that effect? Plus, the list/icons could expand similar to overlapping brackets being expanded on mouse over? Looking for more thoughts? Read my blog or follow me on Twitter. |
Kalestra Cable
Faust Industries
3
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Posted - 2012.04.12 13:59:00 -
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Could it be possible to make a pop up of the ships that are applying the effects when you mouse over or click the icons so you can lock those then? or at least show in space visually which ones so you can then make targeting decisions. |
Arokh
Risk Breakers C0NVICTED
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 14:02:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:I spoke to Karkur about this and she raised the point that if you have multiple pilots applying the same effect to you, which target is targeted by Ctrl-Click? Perhaps a different solution: Highlight or otherwise make more noticable which targets in your overview are applying the effect so they can be more easily identified. |
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
666
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Posted - 2012.04.12 14:29:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Zerb Arus wrote:Would it be much work to make hotkeys like Ctrl-Leftclick (lock target) work on that icons?
And while you are at it, could you make other hotkeys than that for locking available for watchlist entries? (orbit / approach / warpto...)
I really like the UI-team! You made my experience soo much smoother already! Now go and make me like you even more :) I spoke to Karkur about this and she raised the point that if you have multiple pilots applying the same effect to you, which target is targeted by Ctrl-Click? don't forget the fleet actions. e.g broadcast target, tag etc :) a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Strata Maslav
Born-2-Kill 0ccupational Hazzard
21
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:03:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Zerb Arus wrote:Would it be much work to make hotkeys like Ctrl-Leftclick (lock target) work on that icons?
And while you are at it, could you make other hotkeys than that for locking available for watchlist entries? (orbit / approach / warpto...)
I really like the UI-team! You made my experience soo much smoother already! Now go and make me like you even more :) I spoke to Karkur about this and she raised the point that if you have multiple pilots applying the same effect to you, which target is targeted by Ctrl-Click?
Is it possible on mouse over or click to highlight the entities on your overview? Currently the EWAR symbols are a bit small and hard see at a glance in the heat of battle.
Using a current iteration as an example is the broadcast feature, which moves broadcasted targets to the top of the overview so that pilots can easily find the fleets target. Or a click which could actually broadcast the targets to fleet members (hotkey + click) which is already implement in the current overview.
If there were 3 target webbing you, shift click on the debuff which either: - highlights the target (useful in small fleet fight where overview does not need to be scrolled) - moves the three target to the top of the overview
Mouse over on the Debuff Easily Identify each of the entities causing this effect
Slightly off topic, but still UI. Would it be possible to allow pilots to use highlighting for targeting rather then security or standings status? Identifying broadcasted targets by colour would be a great way to distinguish pilots in large battle other then the confusing and annoying calling by name.
'Everyone target yellow. Ok yellow is holding tank, switch to pink'
Colours could be assigned by the FC with either hotkeys or drop down menu or perhaps a keyboard modifier + click (Alt click) which brings up a colour drop down. Other MMOs use symbols to increase coordination of the team such as a triangle above a target, the colour on the overview would be beautiful. |
eidenjunior
Nor-rigs
2
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:15:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Zerb Arus wrote:Would it be much work to make hotkeys like Ctrl-Leftclick (lock target) work on that icons?
And while you are at it, could you make other hotkeys than that for locking available for watchlist entries? (orbit / approach / warpto...)
I really like the UI-team! You made my experience soo much smoother already! Now go and make me like you even more :) I spoke to Karkur about this and she raised the point that if you have multiple pilots applying the same effect to you, which target is targeted by Ctrl-Click?
to look that you are getting same effect from multiba make it so as when you hover you mouse over the effect you will a rising meny where it stat what ship, range and name. like you are stacking icons on top of each other.
Make it so you will get info of the bonus you are getting. like for tracking link you are getting a measurable effect in tracking or range. same for target painter, remote sensor booster, stasis webifier and the other types that you are able to measurable.
display it some like this:
"pic of mod" pilot name, range, ship. you are getting a tracking increase by 30%(conut in stacking Penalty) that equals 0.1 in rad/sec.
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CCP Frellicus
C C P C C P Alliance
75
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:46:00 -
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Due to resource constraints we did a minimal implementation that is mean to be iterated on based on your feedback.
Currently it is only tracking negative effects directed against you (debuffs). The plan is to include more things if this goes well and include assist modules and possibly even damage dealt to you.
The immediate goal is to make aggression against you visible and help you react to those that do.
There is a lot we want to do more and we have scheduled time to iterate on this so please keep the comments coming. |
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Salpun
Paramount Commerce
234
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:50:00 -
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CCP Frellicus wrote:Due to resource constraints we did a minimal implementation that is mean to be iterated on based on your feedback.
Currently it is only tracking negative effects directed against you (debuffs). The plan is to include more things if this goes well and include assist modules and possibly even damage dealt to you.
The immediate goal is to make aggression against you visible and help you react to those that do.
There is a lot we want to do more and we have scheduled time to iterate on this so please keep the comments coming. While you are at it can you please add the UI mod tools into the game so info stacks down instead of a long line to the right and so we can have colors |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong White-Lotus
531
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Posted - 2012.04.12 18:06:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Tanaka Aiko wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:For "target all the things", just set your Auto Target Back to 12 and you'll likely accomplish this without having to click anything! you should know that's a very bad idea... maybe with a very easy way to activate / desactivate the auto target, but even, i don't think it would works... Sorry I must have forgotten to add the smiley devil face that indicates I was joking
hey you!
wouldn't it be cool if those emotes animated?
*gives guilt inducing stare at whoever is on the forum dev team* |
Malus Cygina
Public Liability
13
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Posted - 2012.04.13 01:31:00 -
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While I applaud the concept the implementation looks pretty garbage from the screenshots.
Its unintuitive. - Cant be used to see who is doing what. - Cant be used to see how much of what is active on you. - The timer takes up alot of realestate, also which mod is it referring to? - It doesnt fit in with the rest of the ui. - Cant be used to easily target.
Surely something like [ship type icon] [debuff (with timer like normal modules in circle around outside)] would be more useful?
This way you could: - See how many debuff each individual person has on you. - See what ship each of them are flying. - Target/broadcast each individual. - Still retain timer information, with less realestate. - Add a scrollbar like the overview if too many debuffs at same time
eg. [Brutix] [Web] [Web] [Scram] |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3755
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Posted - 2012.04.13 03:13:00 -
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I would be nice if these effects wherent stacked up and each application would be thier own.
Alas I would hate to be a carrier at a shoot-ex.
hmm maybe if you mouse over it flys out then you can't cntl click one of the icons. and long as cntl is held freeze the fly out.
you could also have an option to disable flyout without cntl pressed that would drop some annoyances.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong White-Lotus
533
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Posted - 2012.04.13 03:17:00 -
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I swear I made a post..
anyways this bar is just the old one we had 5 years ago but better. The above post mirrors my own, you guys are suppose to be moving towards a clean powerful UI, the current bar is not something you'd see any other mmo re;ease, due to how embarrassing it looks and feels.
Take it back, finish it, there is a reason you removed the old one. It's useless as it is right now. you can't even tell what it is the timer is counting for. |
Lord Helghast
Intergalactic Syndicate Nulli Secunda
96
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Posted - 2012.04.13 03:29:00 -
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My comments....
1. Add Buffs, but make the debuffs perhaps more prominent
2. Make sure theres a bubble (think iphone icon with items pending) on the icon for how many pilots are doing it to you 10ecm put 10 in the little bubble...
3. Ctrl+Click to target the user doing it sounds too easy if you dont do this i'll be SOOO sad.
4. More than 1 person doing it, show context menu when clicked with a tree of names, and clicking one targets that person
4a. or just have ctrl+click target the first X amount of people that you have open targetting spots for.
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I LOVE the idea of mousing over it expanding the single debuff with number icon to a bunch of debuff icons below it with each person's name overlayed on it and u can ctrl+click to lock whichever one but i would think that would be a lot of extra UI work, perhaps an idea for down the road later.... ctrl+mouseover = drop down with people to select = nice
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5. Overview Highlighting when moused over, i really love the idea recommended above for this, you can already do highlighting in UI, and i'd imagine it shouldn't be too hard to check whos causing the debuff, and when mouse over debuff, color those overview people a certain flashy color until mouse off (perhaps even a 5 second delay when u mouse off to get your cursor over to the overview.) |
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