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TheBlueMonkey
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Posted - 2012.04.13 14:27:00 -
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you spend alot of time on your own don't you? |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
455
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Posted - 2012.04.13 14:29:00 -
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TheBlueMonkey wrote:you spend alot of time on your own don't you?
You obviously have no idea who Nova Fox is or what he does for a living. Fail troll. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
TheBlueMonkey
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Posted - 2012.04.13 14:37:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:you spend alot of time on your own don't you? You obviously have no idea who Nova Fox is or what he does for a living. Fail troll.
I've seen him floating around in the past pitching various ideas for ships that don't really fill a role and that I never see appearing in the game.
Care to enlighten me on who he is and what he does? |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3761
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Posted - 2012.04.13 14:39:00 -
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People once upon a time said that airplanes had no place in the world. They also said the same thing about the computer that the normal person will never have one nor have use for one.
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
234
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Posted - 2012.04.13 14:45:00 -
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TheBlueMonkey wrote:you spend alot of time on your own don't you? You serious? |
TheBlueMonkey
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Posted - 2012.04.13 14:51:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:People once upon a time said that airplanes had no place in the world. They also said the same thing about the computer that the normal person will never have one nor have use for one.
Well there's a tangent that has little to do with what I said and answers none of my questions.
The way new ship design should work is this.
1) What role is there that lacks a dedicated ship? 2) Is there a ship that's supposed to do this but is currently broken? 3) design new ship if no ship currently exists.
As far as I've always been aware destroyers are meant as frigate killers\heavy tacklers. How does having cruiser size guns on it help it kill frigs?
You say it's aimed at other cruisers but every other cruiser would be better suited for killing cruisers. |
Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
16
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Posted - 2012.04.13 14:58:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:you spend alot of time on your own don't you? You obviously have no idea who Nova Fox is or what he does for a living. Fail troll.
Who is he and what does he do for a living then?
I've seen his postings of ship concepts over the years and just figured it was a 10-14 year old kid drawing stuff on the computer. Hence I never really gave it much thought, but you make it sound like he's in the industry of design or something, in which case he needs to really dedicate more time to his craft.
Seriously curious now though. Nova Fox, who are you? how old are you? and what do you do for a living?
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TheBlueMonkey
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:04:00 -
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Mr. Orange wrote:Thorn Galen wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:you spend alot of time on your own don't you? You obviously have no idea who Nova Fox is or what he does for a living. Fail troll. Who is he and what does he do for a living then?I've seen his postings of ship concepts over the years and just figured it was a 10-14 year old kid drawing stuff on the computer. Hence I never really gave it much thought, but you make it sound like he's in the industry of design or something, in which case he needs to really dedicate more time to his craft. Seriously curious now though. Nova Fox, who are you? how old are you? and what do you do for a living?
Exactly,
I've never seen or heard of any of these designs making it into the game and from what I gather in a brief googling he's done hundreds of them.
Which begs the question why keep going when it's not getting any CCP recognition (as far as implementation goes)? I'll give him kudos for persistence but who are you, what are you etc.
Surely you'd be better off finding some developers and making your own game etc. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:07:00 -
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Yea,it'd be stupid to assume he does this cos he enjoyed doing it,right? Oh you guys... So leets... :chuckle: |
TheBlueMonkey
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:12:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Yea,it'd be stupid to assume he does this cos he enjoyed doing it,right? Oh you guys... So leets... :chuckle:
In that case it belongs in the RP section of the forums then doesn't it? Because that's what he's doing? Making out like he's actually a ship designer that all the other ship yards are ignoring?
Also, other are making out like he's some kind of BIG I AM or sommit.
Also... HA... me? leet? I'M SO BAD AT EVE IT STINGS WHEN I PEE |
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:21:00 -
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TheBlueMonkey wrote:In that case it belongs in the RP section of the forums then doesn't it? Because that's what he's doing? Making out like he's actually a ship designer that all the other ship yards are ignoring?
Also, other are making out like he's some kind of BIG I AM or sommit.
And this is a problem for you because....
e:Actually don't mind answering it. Carry on gais. |
TheBlueMonkey
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:29:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote: And this is a problem for you because....
e:Actually don't mind answering it. Carry on gais.
There's a difference between curiosity and problem. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
996
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:33:00 -
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Excellent design choice opening a new Bomber type perspective (because bomb launcher design is what it is)
Lacks some side up'n down views, more details but looks nice. (at least better than Catalyst ! ) |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:34:00 -
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Road Map to most of NFX Ship designs.
1 Unmarry (Divorce) Roles from ship or module 2 Does Role by itself exist? 3 Does it Break Eve on mechanics along (ignore numbers) 4 Does it fit into Eve program wise? 5 Does it role stomp anything else's role? 6 Be bold go in newer directions this avoids role stomping the most. 7 Bend but do not break standards. 8 Know the limits set in place, ie 8 slots max, Hulk Ultimate Miner etc etc. 9 Abuse your own role look for exploits with it in every possible angle you can. This requires exentisive studing in past exploits. 10 Prenerf prenerf prenerf 11 Now decide if best suited for ship, module, rig, skill or a combination of such. 12 Once constructed get shot by your idea, then shoot your idea from all angles and fonts. 13 Important part - Hate your own idea. 14 Throw an idea together and then forget about it, read it a time later and hate it again. 15 apologize 16 make things better 17 repeat 13-16 until satisfactory 18 Do final checks against other roles, patch changes, readable future projections in ccp development then finally come out with the idea. Return to step 1 if and when nessecary. Do not be afraid to retire ideas that are out of date or no longer have a place.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:39:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Excellent design choice opening a new Bomber type perspective (because bomb launcher design is what it is)
Lacks some side up'n down views, more details but looks nice. (at least better than Catalyst ! )
Sorry about that been restricting my time on these things another 17 minutes and I could have gotten a side view.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3768
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:48:00 -
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Those of you who want to know more about me. Ex-US Navy, Aviation Electrican I have torn up the plane I worked on entirely apart before and put it back together in working order hence the joke Aviation Everything... Current College student IT field. Free time - not alot. To the point my corp wallet started to cry about it being out of money to pay 1 cheap station's bill. Would like to go into game design but dont have time to sit down and study. I have no art training, I've been self trained, I really dont have the software either or time. My mind does not cope with lack of activity too well. So I'm constantly comming up with new ideas all the time. I seriously think my pencil sketches are much better than my virtual versions but my scanner really sucks.
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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:52:00 -
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Very nice! I really like the Hellion. I would like to see that in the game. |
Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:52:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Those of you who want to know more about me. Ex-US Navy, Aviation Electrican I have torn up the plane I worked on entirely apart before and put it back together in working order. Current College student IT field. Free time - not alot. To the point my corp wallet started to cry about it being out of money to pay 1 cheap station's bill. Would like to go into game design but dont have time to sit down and study. I have no art training, I've been self trained, I really dont have the software either or time. My mind does not cope with lack of activity too well. So I'm constantly comming up with new ideas all the time. I seriously think my pencil sketches are much better than my virtual versions but my scanner really sucks.
Curiosity satisfied, thanks.
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Danel Tosh
EVE Protection Agency Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:53:00 -
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great idea for these new heavy destroyers. if CCP decides to make them im shure they will find thier place in new eden much like the Tier 3 battlecrusiers. Im interested if you will be showing us a Minmatar and a caldai one shortly. keep up the good work! |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
996
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:53:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Tanya Powers wrote:Excellent design choice opening a new Bomber type perspective (because bomb launcher design is what it is)
Lacks some side up'n down views, more details but looks nice. (at least better than Catalyst ! ) Sorry about that been restricting my time on these things another 17 minutes and I could have gotten a side view.
Yes you are such a bad person and you should feel so awful for posting that unfinished project
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.04.13 16:05:00 -
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Danel Tosh wrote:great idea for these new heavy destroyers. if CCP decides to make them im shure they will find thier place in new eden much like the Tier 3 battlecrusiers. Im interested if you will be showing us a Minmatar and a caldai one shortly. keep up the good work!
I got bad news on the Minmatar. Currenlty nothing in my old inventory that could fit the shoes at the moment I'll have to draft a brand new hull from scratch because I have no easily expandable small frame to modify the role. You can check out the escort destroyer until then http://www.deviantart.com/download/183628036/parking___minmatar_blunder_dd_by_novafox-d31bsas.jpg Minmatar Blunder heavy mid and decent low slot destroyer armed webber and painter bonuses relies on drone bay to do the hurt, slower than all the gun destroyers. So she'll be the last one in this series I get to. Ill try to restrain 2 hours for her construction.
Caldari on the other hand I have an easily modifiable hull for it and will be modernizing it since she was drafted back before Trinity and caldari design sensibilities changed three times since then.
Hellion was losely based on a much older design I never published and almost threw in the trash I think she was originally a frigate for field generating.
Deliverence is a mk2 and most her design ate the original deliverence and the salvation destroyer unfourtunate these are technically unpublished as I cannot find them online and my local scans are corrupted beyond normal.
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Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
668
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Posted - 2012.04.13 16:47:00 -
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Just spotted the Gallente one, nice concept
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Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
668
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Posted - 2012.04.13 16:53:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Danel Tosh wrote:great idea for these new heavy destroyers. if CCP decides to make them im shure they will find thier place in new eden much like the Tier 3 battlecrusiers. Im interested if you will be showing us a Minmatar and a caldai one shortly. keep up the good work! I got bad news on the Minmatar. Currenlty nothing in my old inventory that could fit the shoes at the moment I'll have to draft a brand new hull from scratch because I have no easily expandable small frame to modify the role. You can check out the escort destroyer until then http://www.deviantart.com/download/183628036/parking___minmatar_blunder_dd_by_novafox-d31bsas.jpg Minmatar Blunder heavy mid and decent low slot destroyer armed webber and painter bonuses relies on drone bay to do the hurt, slower than all the gun destroyers. So she'll be the last one in this series I get to. Ill try to restrain 2 hours for her construction. Caldari on the other hand I have an easily modifiable hull for it and will be modernizing it since she was drafted back before Trinity and caldari design sensibilities changed three times since then. Hellion was losely based on a much older design I never published and almost threw in the trash I think she was originally a frigate for field generating. Deliverence is a mk2 and most her design ate the original deliverence and the salvation destroyer unfourtunate these are technically unpublished as I cannot find them online and my local scans are corrupted beyond normal.
....but those nasty Amarr types are hurling turds at it!
I really like your approach to symmetry / asymmetry on the Blunder, still balanced and looks functional. In my view, CCP got it right with the Tempest, iffy with the Stabber/Typhoon, poor with the Burst and horrific with the Reaper. |
Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
430
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:03:00 -
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Everytime I see one of your images, it seems that something is "off", like the shapes are distorted. I think the issue is that each element of the spaceship does not conform to a consistent perspective. |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
1144
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:07:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
668
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:33:00 -
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Taedrin wrote:Everytime I see one of your images, it seems that something is "off", like the shapes are distorted. I think the issue is that each element of the spaceship does not conform to a consistent perspective.
Got to admit, the quality of the sketches is getting better and better - have you started with a 3D program yet? |
Welsige
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
46
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:39:00 -
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Nice designs.
Gave a like especially due to simetry :P . ~ 10.058 ~
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