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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1114
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Posted - 2012.04.16 17:34:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Tanya Powers wrote:
Why would some train and pay for an Hulk unless it's an idiot and why would another be idiot enough to build those?
The hulk can mine solo while the rokh is forced to jetcan mine. The hulk can also out strip a rokh if you sacrifice some tank for a MLU and still be able to tank most gank attempts by destroyers.
Both can use hauler, one has more base cargo the other has FAR more TANK and same to better yeld the moment you use an hauler. And no no no no and NO!! for your MLU, you saying from the beginning miners are stupid enough to not tank their Hulk, and now it's exactly what you are saying so that an hulk wins some interest compared to a mining battleship...
Whatever you bring as argument I can put it to the ground because you know as well as I do how badly designed mining and ships for it are. Now we can discuss and not agree on a point or another it doesn't really matter, what it matters is that mining is bots and multi boxing or stupid people activity at current game design.
Now for each positive point you give me to use a tanked hulk I can give you a far better activity with -¦| isk income and fun, so what's the point of mining and industry in the game when all you need is passive moon goo, buy plex with isk and win (yes plex because it's new aurum pay to win stuff, you guys were just too blind to see it) |
baltec1
1101
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Posted - 2012.04.16 17:37:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:baltec1 wrote:Tanya Powers wrote:
Why would some train and pay for an Hulk unless it's an idiot and why would another be idiot enough to build those?
The hulk can mine solo while the rokh is forced to jetcan mine. The hulk can also out strip a rokh if you sacrifice some tank for a MLU and still be able to tank most gank attempts by destroyers. Both can use hauler, one has more base cargo the other has FAR more TANK and same to better yeld the moment you use an hauler. And no no no no and NO!! for your MLU, you saying from the beginning miners are stupid enough to not tank their Hulk, and now it's exactly what you are saying so that an hulk wins some interest compared to a mining battleship... Whatever you bring as argument I can put it to the ground because you know as well as I do how badly designed mining and ships for it are. Now we can discuss and not agree on a point or another it doesn't really matter, what it matters is that mining is bots and multi boxing or stupid people activity at current game design. Now for each positive point you give me to use a tanked hulk I can give you a far better activity with -¦| isk income and fun, so what's the point of mining and industry in the game when all you need is passive moon goo, buy plex with isk and win (yes plex because it's new aurum pay to win stuff, you guys were just too blind to see it)
Point out a destroyer than can break a 22-27k tank in under 10 seconds. |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
615
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Posted - 2012.04.16 17:50:00 -
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Rohk's do not have a 3 min cycle time for their miners, and they have a tiny cargo hold idiots. The first thing you will notice is the epic and mind numbing click-drag-drop fest that you have gotten yourself into. After that it all goes down hill from there. So I guess have a party if you're into that sort of thing.
EFT does not equal Real Game Play. (TM)
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1114
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:00:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Point out a destroyer than can break a 22-27k tank in under 10 seconds.
Why would someone gank a 22/27K tank hulk with a destroyer unless it's a lazy or stupid newb? - everyone with a single neuron would immediately associate destroyer gank to T1 mining barges and battlecruisers to T2 mining barges
You know all the story about alts and ship scanners etc etc etc, the same tactics by the way used to gank light haulers or freighters with billions of stuff in, you know what I mean, so why would you absolutely want to gank a 27k hulk with a destroyer?
You are just making your uber Hulk crunch under my Tornado teeth |
baltec1
1101
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:03:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:baltec1 wrote:Point out a destroyer than can break a 22-27k tank in under 10 seconds. Why would someone gank a 22/27K tank hulk with a destroyer unless it's a lazy or stupid newb? - everyone with a single neuron would immediately associate destroyer gank to T1 mining barges and battlecruisers to T2 mining barges You know all the story about alts and ship scanners etc etc etc, the same tactics by the way used to gank light haulers or freighters with billions of stuff in, you know what I mean, so why would you absolutely want to gank a 27k hulk with a destroyer? You are just making your uber Hulk crunch under my Tornado teeth
So we are in agreement, a tanked hulk with a MLU has nothing to fear from a destroyer. |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
615
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:06:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Tanya Powers wrote:baltec1 wrote:Point out a destroyer than can break a 22-27k tank in under 10 seconds. Why would someone gank a 22/27K tank hulk with a destroyer unless it's a lazy or stupid newb? - everyone with a single neuron would immediately associate destroyer gank to T1 mining barges and battlecruisers to T2 mining barges You know all the story about alts and ship scanners etc etc etc, the same tactics by the way used to gank light haulers or freighters with billions of stuff in, you know what I mean, so why would you absolutely want to gank a 27k hulk with a destroyer? You are just making your uber Hulk crunch under my Tornado teeth So we are in agreement, a tanked hulk with a MLU has nothing to fear from a destroyer.
He seems to be in agreement yes.
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1114
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:10:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Rohk's do not have a 3 min cycle time for their miners, and they have a tiny cargo hold idiots. The first thing you will notice is the epic and mind numbing click-drag-drop fest that you have gotten yourself into. After that it all goes down hill from there. So I guess have a party if you're into that sort of thing. EFT does not equal Real Game Play. (TM)
My mining Dominix laughs at your uber tanked hulk every day, gets enough cargo and 1200m/s +drones to kick yer arse and neut/scram to finish the job. Now you can perfectly gank it like an Hulk and it will probably be some day, if I ever mine again witch I doubt.
So what's next uber lol tank Hulk fit with a decent isk/h yeld? |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
273
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:10:00 -
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also i'm gonna drop a little knowledge bomb on the ignorant sheep bleeting in this thread: when ganking, why would I bother going to all the effort of killing the one guy who figured out how to tank his hulk by getting a BC or two handy when there is an endless parade of idiots who i can drop catalysts on?
when it came to the ice interdiction it was necessary to pound anyone who resisted's face into pulp regardless of the expense, but when you're just out to farm the weak and stupid there's no need to put the effort into refitting to get the guy with four braincells instead of two
unless of course you mouth off, then you're going to die |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
273
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:14:00 -
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but really my goal is for catalysts to continue streaking out of the sky nonstop (and my orca fits 8-9 of those instead of two bcs) to maximize the suffering i inflict so i'm just going to launch the wootinators at all the untanked idiots, then only go after the tanked guys if they attempt to act like they're people or i run out of idiots
and in this game it's pretty hard to run out of idiots |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
616
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:15:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Rohk's do not have a 3 min cycle time for their miners, and they have a tiny cargo hold idiots. The first thing you will notice is the epic and mind numbing click-drag-drop fest that you have gotten yourself into. After that it all goes down hill from there. So I guess have a party if you're into that sort of thing. EFT does not equal Real Game Play. (TM) My mining Dominix laughs at your uber tanked hulk every day, gets enough cargo and 1200m/s +drones to kick yer arse and neut/scram to finish the job. Now you can perfectly gank it like an Hulk and it will probably be some day, if I ever mine again witch I doubt. So what's next uber lol tank Hulk fit with a decent isk/h yeld? @Baltec1 Salut
Can you explain what this post means, I read it twice and it still confuses me. When did we start talking about dominixs, large drone bays and scrams to laugh at me?
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1114
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:16:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:...and in this game it's pretty hard to run out of idiots
When I run out of those I just go to VFK |
baltec1
1101
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:18:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:...and in this game it's pretty hard to run out of idiots When I run out of those I just go to VFK
Confirming foolish haulers never look at intel in vfk. |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
616
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:19:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:...and in this game it's pretty hard to run out of idiots When I run out of those I just go to VFK
Where as most of us here think that people that post with their alts are also idiots.
Employment History: Science and Trade Institute [STI] from 2011.06.15 13:16 to this day Winning...
Who here scares you Tanya?
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1114
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:22:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Tanya Powers wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:...and in this game it's pretty hard to run out of idiots When I run out of those I just go to VFK Confirming foolish haulers never look at intel in vfk.
There are other flying idiots than haulers too, to have an idea of how much there are around there just look at eve-kill stream, sometimes it's really funny.
"we managed to kill their drones! -OP success !!"
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Whitehound
100
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:22:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:but really my goal is for catalysts to continue streaking out of the sky nonstop (and my orca fits 8-9 of those instead of two bcs) to maximize the suffering i inflict so i'm just going to launch the wootinators at all the untanked idiots, then only go after the tanked guys if they attempt to act like they're people or i run out of idiots
and in this game it's pretty hard to run out of idiots And you are an idiot. Just look at yourself how you talk about mouthing off while you are mouthing off. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1114
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:22:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Tanya Powers wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:...and in this game it's pretty hard to run out of idiots When I run out of those I just go to VFK Where as most of us here think that people that post with their alts are also idiots. Employment History: Science and Trade Institute [STI] from 2011.06.15 13:16 to this day Winning... Who here scares you Tanya?
Your mom. |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
273
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:23:00 -
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i would take the dumbest goon (and boy there are a lot) every day over the npc posting alt |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
616
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:26:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Tanya Powers wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:...and in this game it's pretty hard to run out of idiots When I run out of those I just go to VFK Where as most of us here think that people that post with their alts are also idiots. Employment History: Science and Trade Institute [STI] from 2011.06.15 13:16 to this day Winning... Who here scares you Tanya? Your mom.
How does it feel to be a chicken **** on the internet too? Does it fill you with confidence and self-gratification?
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Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
299
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:47:00 -
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In all honesty, I hate it when people fit survey scanners and MLUs on the Hulk during highly-destructive events like Burn Jita and Hulkageddon. Unless you found a system in high-sec space that has almost no one in it and is far from the hubs and away from the pirate hives, those two modules are a waste of space for a Hulk in terms of achieving optimal tank.
I use an Orca also for providing the best fleet boosts possible for my Hulk's shield and armor resistance. I'm also looking to train it up to utilize a third gang link for reducing the signature radius.
But it doesn't always have to be an Orca to provide the boosts. Just sitting in a cheap battlecruiser with a gang link active is enough. Hell, even if you can't fit a gang link for whatever, some of the leadership skills alone will already provide boosts just for being in fleet (no gang links needed) such as improved agility, faster targeting speed, etc.
Of course, there is always the friendly logistics guys who will probably provide RR defenses for free if you run into them. IF you run into them. Since there's probably not gonna be a lot of them roaming around, you have to prepare for the worst. Sacrificing yield for tank is preferred over having weak tank when a fleet of Thrashers and Catalysts come knocking on your back door (giggity). Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
273
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Posted - 2012.04.16 19:38:00 -
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Whitehound wrote: And you are an idiot. Just look at yourself how you talk about mouthing off while you are mouthing off.
you don't really "get" what mouthing off means
since you are the wretched peasant you trying to put yourself on a level with me is mouthing off while my speaking to you properly putting you in your place as a wretched peasant is me deigning to favor you with my valuable attention |
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1114
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Posted - 2012.04.16 19:52:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:stuff
If you feel bad about it then Op success. Deal with it, stfu and move on or keep complaining.
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
616
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Posted - 2012.04.16 19:55:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:stuff If you feel bad about it then Op success. Deal with it, stfu and move on or keep complaining.
You're right, I shouldn't wast time feeling bad for you. I'll just move right along with my life now. Poor, little zit faced middle school kid, I hope they pass more of those anti-bulling laws so he feels better soon.
* sniff.
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Whitehound
100
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Posted - 2012.04.16 19:56:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:you don't really "get" what mouthing off means
since you are the wretched peasant you trying to put yourself on a level with me is mouthing off while my speaking to you properly putting you in your place as a wretched peasant is me deigning to favor you with my valuable attention No, you do not get what idiocy means. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1116
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Posted - 2012.04.16 20:08:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Tanya Powers wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:stuff If you feel bad about it then Op success. Deal with it, stfu and move on or keep complaining. You're right, I shouldn't wast time feeling bad for you. I'll just move right along with my life now. Poor, little zit faced middle school kid, I hope they pass more of those anti-bulling laws so he feels better soon. * sniff.
You seem angry, you should take care of your health and do something else young boy. When you start insulting people because they don't care of your silly opinion it's about time to go back to real life.
But once again, suck it up and deal with. Move on, nothing to see here for you.
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
616
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Posted - 2012.04.16 20:14:00 -
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I believe I was insulting you because you're afraid to post with anything but an NPC alt with no corp history.
I also ask, who here on the forums scares you?
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1116
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Posted - 2012.04.16 20:24:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:rabble rabble rabble
Blah blah blah
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Whitehound
102
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Posted - 2012.04.16 20:26:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:I also ask you who it is on these forums that scares you? It is so many that I would not know whom to start with. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3355
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Posted - 2012.04.16 20:43:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:I do not care what you have. I do mine, too, on a given occasion and I will not sit in a ship worth 500m ISK and a thin tank while it is the most priced target to every ganker in EVE. It is because of its tank and price tag. If you do not get this then you are just as stupid like the rest of them who desperately hold on to the supertanked Hulk. People like you deserve Hulkageddon so you can snap out of your despair eventually. There is no other way to put it. Let me ask you, did you not yet notice how miners are being treated? They not just get ganked, they get their cans flipped, they get bumped and threatened and laugh at on a daily basis. The miners are being treated like arseholes. If you do not see this and if this does not make you want a better mining ship then one cannot help you!
Hi sec is far too dangerous a place to use a ship intended for nullsec. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
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ISD LoneLynx
Community Communications Liaisons
0
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Posted - 2012.04.16 20:45:00 -
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Topic cleared, please keep your discussions civil. ISD LoneLynx Ensign Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
617
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Posted - 2012.04.16 20:49:00 -
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I do like these new ISD's.
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