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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.01.01 09:16:00 -
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From a href= http://support.eve-online.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=358 target= _blank http://support.eve-online.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=358 /a The Knowledgebase it says that when you complete a mission it splits the rewards, including standings.
So, if you are trying to farm standings as fast as possible, what makes more sense: To do them all by yourselves, or to have a bunch of people all running their own missions but completing them in your fleet?
So say for example 5 individuals are fleeted together and running their own missions, and completing the missions for their fleet. Would that be faster than going solo altogether, or the same speed?
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King Rothgar
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.01.01 09:28:00 -
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Theoretically it should be the same. You are completing 5x as many missions but getting 1/5th the reward. 5 x 1/5 = 1 . That said I'm not sure it actually works like that. Splitting a mission may actually result in a higher base standing increase before being split. The best way to increase standing is to tag along on lvl4's or 5's with someone who already has the standing and then they split reward with you. Alternatively you can go for faction standing to improve base standing with all corps associated with them but that's much trickier.
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Helen
The Tetragrammaton Council
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Posted - 2009.01.01 17:09:00 -
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Technically I believe its fastest if you have upto max 5 people in fleet but don't run missions seperate but run the hard ones as a group so you can speed through the missions quicker. Then you should get more missions per hour completed ergo more standings than running them the way you described.
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Chris Tao
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Posted - 2009.01.01 17:26:00 -
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LP and money are split even but standing gain is split in the form of.
The char that has the mission already has a standing to the corp so if he has say 5-6 in standing to federation navy he will get 1-4% standing gain from a level 4 mission.
When he accepts the mission for a fleet everybody gets an even share of that standing but. If that person has higher standing then everybody else in the fleet. everybody will get less. The more standing you have to a corp the less standing gain you get. So a person with 4 in standing to a corp gets a lot more for completing a level 4 mission compared to the same mission/corp but has a standing for example 9
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.01.01 17:31:00 -
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The fastest way to split standing gains when trying to train up multiple people is to do it in pairs. You bootstrap one other person to where they can run missions for the agent. Then you both pick up one other person and bootstrap them up. Then all 4 of you can do one other person, etc. It'll take considerably longer to do 5 at once than to do one at a time, and since the numbers double with each permutation, if you are trying to bootstrap a bunch of people up to high level missions with one agent it'll work out better. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? |
Guerrica
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Posted - 2009.01.01 17:51:00 -
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@Chris, that is because standing gains are a percentage, not a discrete number. A mission boosts your standings a set percentage on completion. This percentage is then applied to the *difference* between your current standing and 10.0.
This is why you gain less total value from a character with +8.0 to a corp than on a character with +0.1.
Say a 5% increase for giggles -> (10.0 - 8.0)*0.05 = 0.1 --> the +8.0 character goes to +8.1 (10.0 - 0.1)*0.05 = 0.495 --> the 0.1 character goes to + 0.595
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Venomae
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2009.01.01 22:27:00 -
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I have been grinding standings for my alts and I have noticed that the character taking the mission is the only one getting social and connection skill bonuses from the missions.
Atm I am raising two new characters, other has social V and the second doesn't have social skill at all. Both are receiving the same gain from the missions. Surprising is that fleet now works in couriers too!
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Helen
The Tetragrammaton Council
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Posted - 2009.01.02 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Venomae
Atm I am raising two new characters, other has social V and the second doesn't have social skill at all. Both are receiving the same gain from the missions.
Thats because the gain is derived from the one that takes the mission not those that recieve the standing gain.
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Janus Ovellian
Minmatar Calpolli Namtz' aar K'in
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Posted - 2009.01.02 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: King Rothgar Theoretically it should be the same. You are completing 5x as many missions but getting 1/5th the reward. 5 x 1/5 = 1 . That said I'm not sure it actually works like that.
Sounds like it should work but it doesn't. One large staning increase is always better than several small ones.
Say you complete a mission and get a 10% standing increase. Now say you're in a gang with 5 people, and that standing increase is evenly split among gang members - that's 2% for the mission. You run 5 missions as a gang - one each - which each give the same standing increase.
Sharing the rewards gives you the full 2% increase for the first mission... then based on how the calculations for standing changes work, the 2nd mission gives you the equivalent of 1.96% increase. The third is 1.9208% et cetera.
So after running these 5 missions and sharing the rewards you end up with only about 9.6% gain instead of 10%.
If you'd just run those 5 missions together, and not shared the standing increase, you would have gained marginally more standing.
Obviously there are situations in which you want to share standing - to get another pilot access to an agent f.ex - but if you're all running from the same agent, and just pooling firepower, keeping your own rewards is the better way to do it.
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2009.01.02 17:02:00 -
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It boils down to mission completion time - the time saved running a mission in pairs is greater than the time shared running in a group of 3.
So, use the pair method above - groups of two will get them done the quickest.
Now, if you have 5 groups of two each doing 5 sets of missions, overall, you're going to average better rewards than a single group of two because you'll have a much more consistent mission reward average. _______________ Pwett Founder <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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