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mantium
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Posted - 2009.01.01 12:05:00 -
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Edited by: mantium on 01/01/2009 12:05:47 Im making this on a alt for obvius reasons :)
I just bought a domi for support and figured id shield tank it.
It tanks roughly 450 dps and got 7.8 k shields Resists are 60 65 75 79 The Ogres do roughly 480 dps
Lowslots: Power Diagnostic System II x 3 Capacitor Flux Coil II x 3
Mids: Invulerability Field II x 3 Large Shield Booster II x 2
Highs: Large Remote Armor Repair System I
Rigs: Capacitor Control Circuit I x 2
Drones: Ogre II x 5 Hammerheads II x 10 Hobogoblin II x 5
Once i got the skills for it i think im gonna put 1x large neut and 3x large nosses in highslots. Any thoughts? Sadly it doesnt have points or webbers but I got all those on my alt incase.
Edit: Oh and am I the first?
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.01 12:30:00 -
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[Dominix, Logistics, Ranged DPS] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Large Armor Repairer II
LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Sensor Booster II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I
Sentry Damage Augmentor I Sentry Damage Augmentor I [empty rig slot]
Warden II x5 Warrior II x5 Heavy Armor Maintenance Bot II x5 Medium Armor Maintenance Bot II x5 Vespa EC-600 x5
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Karentaki
Gallente Fighting While Intoxicated Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.01.01 12:45:00 -
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Die in a fire (in game)
Please, never shield tank a domi. You can get twice that tank if you use an armour tank, and you don't have to train skills that you'll never need for any other Gallente ship. Also, put something in your high slots in the mean time, even if it is just a rack of med blasters.
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mantium
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Posted - 2009.01.01 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Karentaki Die in a fire (in game)
Please, never shield tank a domi. You can get twice that tank if you use an armour tank, and you don't have to train skills that you'll never need for any other Gallente ship. Also, put something in your high slots in the mean time, even if it is just a rack of med blasters.
Yes, I looked into that (The armor tanking). But im on a tight skilltraining plan and cant afford that right now. Fightner pilot is not my primarary occupation.
Tested on another alt right now with fairly well armor tanking skills and I never got him to tank more then 500 dps. Wich is pretty close to the shield tanking domi.
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2009.01.01 12:55:00 -
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Edited by: KISOGOKU on 01/01/2009 12:55:26 Is this pvp or pve setup? And No you are not first alot of ppl used/using shield tanked domis for missions ,
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Originally by: mantium
Edit: Oh and am I the first?
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mantium
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Posted - 2009.01.01 13:02:00 -
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Actually its for pvp. Hmm well I can fit 4 named nosses and 1 named neut in highslots. Does it sound like a fail?
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Esamir
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Posted - 2009.01.01 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: mantium Large Shield Booster II x 2
Why?
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mantium
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Posted - 2009.01.01 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Esamir
Originally by: mantium Large Shield Booster II x 2
Why?
Shield tanked dominix
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Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.01.01 13:52:00 -
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how about this?
shield tanked pvp domi(support):
6 neutron blaster cannons T2 2 invu fields T2 1 quad lif MWD 1 heavy cap booster T2 1 xlarge shiled boster T2 3 mad stabs T2 1 CPU T2 2 reactor controls T2 1 PG rig 2 em shield resits rigs
5 ogres T2
this is pure eft warrioring but it do tank 500 dps while putting out 1172 dps with max skills...but it also need a +5% cps inplant to be able to fit. this is the best support you can give with a shield tanked domi...kill them before they kill your gang! not using low slots for tanking free them up for damage mods...
Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi". |
mantium
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Posted - 2009.01.01 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: mantium on 01/01/2009 14:02:21 Ah not a bad one. Sadly i cant use guns. Im just a poor miner who woke up with 7 mil sp in drones and gallente bs V one day and figured id take advantage of it.
Well ive changed the setup a bit. According to my skills without implants it will tank 550 dps
Midslots: Invulerability Field II x 3 X-Large Shield Booster II Shield Boost Amplifier II
Highslots: Heavy diminishing power system drain x 4 Some named disruptor Large remote armor rep
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Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.01.01 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Xanos Blackpaw on 01/01/2009 14:14:25 hmmm ok i try again...how about this?
shield tanked domi(pvp support):
2 heavy nosferatu T2 1 untable heavy neut 2 large remote armor rep T2 1 medium remote hull rep(for after fight reppairs...let you fully repair a gang) 2 invu fields T2 1 quad lif MWD 1 heavy cap booster T2 1 x large sheild boster T2 4 PDU T2 1 CPU T2 1 I-stab T2 5 ogres
rigs: 2 anti em shield rigs 1 egress port max
keep the nos on the main target and the neut on a hostile tackler. armor repairs are mostly for after fight but if you dont take fire you can run them anyway. the med hull rep is so that your gang can be healed at a SS after the fight if they take hull damage...
also pack a set of large armor rep drones.
Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi". |
Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2009.01.01 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Karentaki Die in a fire (in game) Please, never shield tank a domi. You can get twice that tank if you use an armour tank, and you don't have to train skills that you'll never need for any other Gallente ship. Also, put something in your high slots in the mean time, even if it is just a rack of med blasters.
Twice the tank, prove it please. For PvE shield tanking the Domi is a good move as it works well. Lots of Gallente ships make great shield tanks so the shield skills are not a waste. One of my fav lvl 4 mission setups is below.
Damage Mod II Damage Mod II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Large Shield Extender II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Heat Dissipation Amplifier II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II
425mm Railgun II, Navy Anti Matter 425mm Railgun II, Navy Anti Matter 425mm Railgun II, Navy Anti Matter 425mm Railgun II, Navy Anti Matter 425mm Railgun II, Navy Anti Matter Drone Link Augmentor I
Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
[Dominix,sometimes best with x2 PDS in lows] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Heat Dissipation Amplifier II Invulnerability Field II
Highs x3 tractor beams and x3 salvagers
Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II
[Dominix, PvP] Power Diagnostic System II (or damage Control II) Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Nosferatu II Medium Nosferatu II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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mantium
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Posted - 2009.01.01 14:55:00 -
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I did one with
Shield power relay II x 7
Invulerability Field II x 2 Large Shield Extender II x 3
Named Neut x 2 Named Nos x 3 Large remote armor rep x 1
Core defense field purger rigs x 3
Tanks 712 dps, peak recharge 267 Still does 480 dps
I think im onto something fun :o
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Karentaki
Gallente Fighting While Intoxicated Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.01.01 15:35:00 -
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Here's my domi fit that can perma-tank over 800 DPS, assuming it has something to NOS, and it can perma-tank over 750 DPS otherwise. Now, that's not quite twice the DPS, but it's very close, and with a PvE setup with rat-specific hardeners it can tank a bit over 1000 DPS
Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II Armor Explosive Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Heavy Nosferatu II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Medium Nosferatu II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Drone Link Augmentor I Large Remote Armor Repair System I
Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Capacitor Control Circuit I
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2009.01.01 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Karentaki Here's my domi fit that can perma-tank over 800 DPS, assuming it has something to NOS, and it can perma-tank over 750 DPS otherwise. Now, that's not quite twice the DPS, but it's very close, and with a PvE setup with rat-specific hardeners it can tank a bit over 1000 DPS
Thats not close to twice the DPS tankable. Using the same amount of tankable slots the passive shield tanks gets 760dps solo or 836dps in a group although both setups would be poor for PvP. If you're talking PvE setup with rat-specific hardeners then the shield is over 1000. On top of that the shield tank has a better hitpoint buffer. ____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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Karentaki
Gallente Fighting While Intoxicated Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.01.01 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey Thats not close to twice the DPS tankable.
The OP quoted 450 DPS tankable, 450*2 = 900, which is only a bit over 800. I'm sorry I didn't take into account all the other shield tanks here, but if you want to spend months training to fit a maxed out shield tank as well as armour just to fly one race, feel free.
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EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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mantium
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Posted - 2009.01.01 16:28:00 -
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Hmmm well as you might have noticed. I said i fitted it in eft according to my skills. Wich means i got all shield skills needed to use any shield tank including capital. No need for skilling shields to shieldtank a domi when i already have shieldsskills
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Bazman
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.01 16:33:00 -
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Don't listen to people saying never shield tank a Dominix. Shield tanks are very viable for this ship, as it tends to allow you to do heavy DPS or heavy capwar setups. An old favourite was the 7 PDU II, XL Shield tank and 6 Heavy Nos setup. You can do a variation of that with Heavy Neuts now, or you can slap on an RCU II and put a full rack of Neutron Blasters and 3 damage mods.
Ship is awesome -----
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Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2009.01.01 19:36:00 -
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I can get a domi to put out 900 DPS, and have 100k EHP...
...and it's hull tanked ^_^
Honestly though, a shield tanked domi for pvp just isn't a good idea. You've got no tackle, no speed, and you're wasting the massive amount of lowslots the domi has.
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sAyArrrr
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.01.01 20:16:00 -
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Hint: For pvp your midslots are important, since you have enough room for mwd/disruptor/heavy injector/eccm wich you badly need for a neut/support pvp domi. For pve however, you dont need those midslots asmuch and in that case a shieldtanking domi is verry viable.
Besides, 7 lowslots and 3 rigslots for armortank is just awesome. Please, shieldtanking a pvp domi just isnt realistical.
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Richard Third
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.01.01 21:33:00 -
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/me wants to see a passive tank on a battleship that works.
[Dominix, mission copy 1] Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II
X-Large Shield Booster II X-Large Shield Booster II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Shield Boost Amplifier II
[empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Core Defence Operational Solidifier I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I
cap stable @761 DPS -- You can't do that with a Planet. |
dalman
Exotic Dancers Club Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.01.01 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: mantium Edit: Oh and am I the first?
The reason for why the dominix was given so little powergrid after the armor tanking patch 5 years ago was to prevent extremely powerful shield-tanked setups.
Oh and btw, all ships were shield-tanked 5.5 years ago...
Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2009.01.02 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Cambarus Honestly though, a shield tanked domi for pvp just isn't a good idea. You've got no tackle, no speed, and you're wasting the massive amount of lowslots the domi has. Stick with an armor tank.
That's completely not true. Did you not see my PvP shield setup? It is faster then a plate buffer tank and could easily fit tackle on if needed. ____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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Bazman
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.02 02:38:00 -
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My shield tank dommie is pretty niche I'll admit, I generally only fit it that way if I intend to go out and utterly wreck somethings capacitor, like a cap ship, of if facing a mass of cruiser sized targets with a couple of battleships.
Never the less, having a Neutron gank shield tanked dominix that throws out slightly over 1,300dps is fun to mess around with at least once if your that way inclined :P -----
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Kirtan Loor
Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.01.02 08:32:00 -
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For missions Dominix can be shield tanked and is a viable shield tanked ship. Actually it is on par with raven on shield tanking(which is THE mission ship). Most Raven pilots use 5 med slots for shield modules and 6th med for a cap recharger. You have 2 more low slots instead of this med slot. Your only problem is the tight CPU.
Still, using a shield tank on Domi is a good idea because you can utilize 425mm railguns with it. Combine wardens, 425mm railguns(lead) and a drone link augmentor and you'll be hitting anything at 70+km or lower for very good insta damage.
Here is a fit for omni-damage tanking.
[Dominix, Active Shield Tank Domi] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Flux I Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Flux I Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Flux I Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Flux I Capacitor Flux Coil II
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Lead Charge L 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Lead Charge L 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Lead Charge L 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Lead Charge L 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Lead Charge L Drone Link Augmentor I
Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I
Warden II x5
The OP wants a pvp setup though. Perma tank setups usually do not do well in pvp. Cap Boosters are preferred way of energy management there and they take up a med slot. Also you'll want MWD which also takes a med slot and gives a cap penalty. With the remaining 3 slots you are sadly not going to get any good tanks.
Good old NOS domi had a chance to run the capacitors solely by taking energy from the opponents. This is no longer the case as NOS are only operating on certain conditions. I think there in only one viable way of using shield tanking in pvp as a domi, which is passive shield tanking.
[Dominix, Passive Domi PvP] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Scrambler II
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I
Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
Get close, put your teeth in and Neut the enemy until he is dry. Nos are only used to fuel the neutralizers. Tank is passive shield regen tank and self sustaining.
...and if you want to go the logistics way, then it is makes more sense to use armor tank because every other ship out there uses armor tank for rr gangs. |
Larkonis Trassler
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2009.01.02 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: mantium I did one with
Shield power relay II x 7
Invulerability Field II x 2 Large Shield Extender II x 3
Named Neut x 2 Named Nos x 3 Large remote armor rep x 1
Core defense field purger rigs x 3
Tanks 712 dps, peak recharge 267 Still does 480 dps
I think im onto something fun :o
Is that you garmon? Seriously this must be a troll. Calm Your Passion |
mantium
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Posted - 2009.01.02 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Larkonis Trassler
Is that you garmon? Seriously this must be a troll.
Why you trolling me with that garmon ****? No its not a troll. I figured for gatecamping (small gangs) a Neutdomi, passive tanked with 500 dps would do quite fine. I might be wrong but i wrecked an absolution in less then 2 mins.
Oh and I dont need tackle (This ship is merely to support my main/his corp) Oh and guess what he got fitted? 3 webs and and a scram. I dont intent to fulfill every role in the game. Ill just be neuting/nossing while maintaining tank. Show me a armortank who can do that please.
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NeoTheo
Dark Materials
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Posted - 2009.01.02 12:42:00 -
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how did i know i would find pots in this topic? ;)
for what its worth, if you are going to shield tank a domi, then a passive tank is were its at (much like pot's setups), active tanks realistically arnt all that. (especially on the domi specifically).
i still prefer a armor tank on mine (despite the fact my shield tanking skills are better), as that gives me much more utility to play around with.
the great thing about the domi is the fact that it is a awsome utility knife, deadicating most of its slots to a shield tank with little utility rather borkes the point of it. (however this isnt the case in pve).
/theo - DAMT -
If you dont know, well, you dont know!
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Jensius Duo
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2009.01.02 13:43:00 -
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[Dominix, pickme!] Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II X-Large Shield Booster II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I
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Raniss
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Posted - 2009.01.02 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey
Originally by: Cambarus Honestly though, a shield tanked domi for pvp just isn't a good idea. You've got no tackle, no speed, and you're wasting the massive amount of lowslots the domi has. Stick with an armor tank.
That's completely not true. Did you not see my PvP shield setup? It is faster then a plate buffer tank and could easily fit tackle on if needed.
No, what you say is completely not true. Hint: there are things more important in pvp than tackle, the domi's strenght is that it has more than enough mids to fit eccm (x2), tackle and sensorbooster, wich a shieldtanking domi cannot do.
Please, shieldtanking domi for pve is more than good, but for pvp, definately not.
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