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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.02 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar "Boarding this ship will notify CONCORD of your activity. Are you sure you want to do this?"
"Docking request denied. You are a wanted criminal!"
"Boarding this ship will notify the faction police of your activities. Are you sure you want to do this?"
"Docking request denied. You are a an enemy of the state!"
...and suddenly actions bear much more consequence.
What about the consequences for the action of AFKing with valuable cargo?
Jesus christ, you just GOT a massive suicide gank nerf 3 months ago, and you're ALREAY asking for more. As I and others predicted by the way.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.02 11:01:00 -
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Edited by: Malcanis on 02/01/2009 11:02:58
Originally by: Falcon Troy I love how making the game even harsher has people screaming carebear whining. Mechanics like removing insurance for ships that are agressive has no bearing on keeping carebears safer. You want to get your ship blown up to kill carebears in hisec? Go for it, but it's absurd that you get your insrance payout, the ship's loot, the km, and the satisfaction of watching a carebear pod warp off.
I love how whiney carebears think that demanding even more NPC protection is "making the game harsher".
Were you one of those kids whose mom abused the ref for allowing "unfairness" whenever your junior soccer league team lost a game?
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.02 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Whineroy
Originally by: Malcanis
I love how whiney carebears think that demanding even more NPC protection is "making the game harsher".
Were you one of those kids whose mom abused the ref for allowing "unfairness" whenever your junior soccer league team lost a game?
And I love seeing yet again how ganker nerds prove themselves to be sad hypocritical losers pretending to be big and bad tough guys from behind safety of computer screen. Perhaps if player bounty system really worked and bounties were a real hindrance instead of source of nerdy-loser pride, then people wouldn't be asking for additional NPC protection.
Perhaps you've missed that the "whiney ganker nerds" have been asking - pleading - for a decent bounty system for years.
If a working bounty system is what you want - and I 100% agree that there needs to be one - then ask for that, don't ask for yet more rules and restrictions against PvP in a PvP game.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.02 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Al Drevika
Sure, I'd be happy with a working bounty system, too. I've been behind that for a long time. I guess I've just given up since it's been rejected for years.
Meanwhile there is a highly efficient exploit to avoid being suicide ganked. Don't spread it around or you'll pretty much eliminate a legitimate profession in EvE, but not going AFK is an almost perfect defence. If anyone asks, I didn't tell you, OK?
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.02 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Al Drevika
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Al Drevika
Sure, I'd be happy with a working bounty system, too. I've been behind that for a long time. I guess I've just given up since it's been rejected for years.
Meanwhile there is a highly efficient exploit to avoid being suicide ganked. Don't spread it around or you'll pretty much eliminate a legitimate profession in EvE, but not going AFK is an almost perfect defence. If anyone asks, I didn't tell you, OK?
If you actually read the thread or just used your brain cells, you'd realize it doesn't take a hauler in Jita being afk to be a target. Cargo scanning takes 5 seconds. Locking on and scramming is only a few seconds more. Try turning a hauler with three cargo expanders, it's more than enough time.
So, STFU until you actually think things through.
Perhaps you'd like to explain then why every single time someone complains about being suicide ganked it always turns out that they were AFK...?
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.02 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Al Drevika
Originally by: Legio Praetor
Anyway, the rules that are put in place will NEVER be good enough for either side. The suicide gankers/griefers will want less rules in place and the carebears more rules. I wish both sides good luck with that...
I think there's a happy medium. Pies have their issues too, that should be addressed. They're bored and looking for targets. If we had more of a payoff to be in low sec, we'd be there a lot more often. Exchanging no-sec-hit-in-lowsec for less freedom of movement for outlaws in high sec, that's good for all parties.
But, it's becoming clear it's hard to have a rational discussion with the low level of maturity involved. I'll do PVP when my alt is trained up, but I suspect its going to be hard to find a decent corp/gang that isn't living out of their mom's basement.
I think this post makes your position very clear.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.03 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Maren Maen
Originally by: Le Skunk
Yes all these changes.
Or
- Actualy play the game and dont go afk with a **** load of loot?
Its so simple. I dont understand why people dont do it. Mind Boggling.
SKUNK
Manually warp to zero, wait, spam jump key, wait, warp to zero, wait, spam jump key... repeat about 75-150 times per day.
ZOMG!!! excitement!! Seriously, if that's your idea of "playing" anything, then you must be the most boring person alive (and I imagine, just barely so). People AFK travel because, frankly, 95% of eve is shockingly boring; a good chunk of that can be mitigated by turning eve into a glorified chat room. This leaves 5% as actual genuine entertainment.
Everyone knows this who has played for any length of time, we just accept it because we like being apart of the "eve universe". *****ing at people for trying to make eve life slightly more pleasant for themselves just demonstrates some combination of masochism (because you have to put up with it too), callousness (because empathy isn't in your vocabulary), and narrowmindedness (because not all are as hard core as you, sir).
It's fine to AFK autopilot. People do it all the time. I was doing it myself this evening.
Just don't do it in a poorly tanked ship with a highly valuable cargo.
Why is this simple principle so difficult to understand?
It's even laid out on CCP's own website! An umambiguous warning, with clear and simple advice on how to mitigate the risk. CCP's advice might look familiar, because it's the same advice as that given by the "whiney ganker nerds".
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.06 10:18:00 -
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In short: if you think it's still too easy for suicide gankers then the obvious course of action is to STOP MAKING IT SO EASY FOR THEM.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.06 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Blue Harrier IÆve only been playing Eve for a little over 6 months so my thoughts may not count but from the word go I discovered even in high sec you must fly armed and tanked even if your mining.
I always fit guns and where possible carry combat drones when doing anything and never fly AFK or on autopilot if I canÆt afford to lose it. You never know who is watching you or sitting cloaked in your system as I found out last night when I was setting up my overview while cloaked and a ship warped in some distance away and cloaked not knowing I was already there.
But that is the fun of Eve you are never totally æsafeÆ if I want that I log out and letch at Lara Crofts backside and shoot a few tigers .
Prepare to be added to the "FAIL" list of people who "refuse to have an adult discussion".
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