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Ristlin Wakefield
Wakefield-Dukovsky Conglomerate
12
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Posted - 2012.06.12 16:17:00 -
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We've beaten the dead horse to a pulp, but I thought I'd throw in that wormhole space is not only risky and hard, but also good for the economy (POS, ships, etc.) and its flexible so someone who is only a month old can already contribute to an operation. Incursions? Not so much. I either get laughed out of the chat or ignored when I search for a fleet. So you know what? I'm happy its getting nerfed. The risk-reward for incursions are unbalanced in favor of reward. |
chaotic pandemonium
Intergalactic Combined Technologies
1
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Posted - 2012.06.13 13:08:00 -
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I really don't understand the need to nerf whs. I relatively came back to the game after taking an extended break and decided to try running a wormhole. Honestly the isk you earn is most certainly comparable to the POS investment, and the constant pvp. I don't care how experienced you are, if you fly wh you will die at one point or another. Blue loot is worth a lot because there are not any sleeper bounties. Also these rats are much tougher than your typical high sec missions. To be honest as i have recently just started wormholing and between the initial investment, fuel and a few ship losses I have probably broken about even. I probably could make more money as a carebear in high sec, trading, mining and mission running, with much less risk risk and heck watching movies. But then where is the fun. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
243
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Posted - 2012.06.14 04:55:00 -
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Diego Sarmoti wrote:did this thread get moved? Talk about throwing a lamb in the lions den.
PS. OP take a look in the wh forum dude, then come talk about risk v reward again.
Before I leave I recall this thread & find it here?!?!?!?! lol They put this thread here? So this is how it felt like to be a Christan thrown to the lions!!! Surprised I haven't been thrown upside down on a cross in this forum. I see no DEV GM or ISD admitted to stealth moving this thread here. I don't blame him. Seems like instead of killing this thread though it gave it a longer life then I ever expected.
Stalafur wrote:Nooo, not the wormhole! They try to burns the precious! *Scuttles into his wormhole hermit pos*
Well all I got to say is watch out if CCP Sauron's EYE ever glances towards WH's to 'fix' them else the nerf bat could destroy you all like the Incursion community was. The day that CCP 'fixes' stop sucking is the day they start fixing vaccum cleaners |
Michael1995
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
22
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Posted - 2012.06.14 06:17:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote: Well all I got to say is watch out if CCP Sauron's EYE ever glances towards WH's to 'fix' them else the nerf bat could destroy you all like the Incursion community was.
If you think we're here just for the isk then you are sadly mistaken. One does not simply buy their way into Goonswarm. |
Indo Nira
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
2
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:50:00 -
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Didn't your subscription run out already? Or are you just an attention *****? Anyway, your sheer determination to prove everyone else wrong is impressive. Or you might just be stupid. |
seany1212
Zat's Affiliated Traders Originally Riotous Corps
193
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:59:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote: Well all I got to say is watch out if CCP Sauron's EYE ever glances towards WH's to 'fix' them else the nerf bat could destroy you all like the Incursion community was.
The incursion community still exists, there are still groups that run them... They're just removed of the dead weight that were the isk leechers, the ones that were doing incursions to milk as much isk from them as they could and then leave as soon as the nerf bat was so rightly swung. You appear to be one of them...
The ones still doing them do it because they're fun, because they can do it with people who they love to run them with and actually have a laugh while doing it rather than seeing how much isk they can squeeze out in an hour They aren't dead, they're just dead of the parasites that milked them while they were most profitable.
Also, this thread STILL exists?!?! |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
182
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Posted - 2012.06.14 09:00:00 -
[457] - Quote
seany1212 wrote:Also, this thread STILL exists?!?! . |
joes Bazooka
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.06.14 09:22:00 -
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The ISK grinders from incursions have simply moved to Faction warfare plexing, if you couldnt catch on to where you should go for your next lot of risk free ISK then you should at least research before you post. OP feel free to start a troll topic about that.
WH ISK while it can be lucrative it is not endless, yes i can make a lot in one night doing a bit of PVE but for the next day or three:
You can have all your home sites farmed by visitors while you sleep.
You can have other visitors camping you waiting for you to PVE.
You can have other visitors wanting to engage in WH discussions/ talkfests (see, PVP)
You can be by yourself and not be able to complete PVE sites, (**** why can't we pug randoms to do PVE in WH's?........)
You can invest from 1-20B in your home base to have it all taken away when a big fish stubs his toe in your WH and goes looking for a bandaid.
You can have endlless noob explorers day tripping around in your hole, (ok sorry thats a good point, i got confused).
So really if you think WH's are such easy risk free bucket loads of ISK please please come join us, we welcome more targets to enter into WH hugs with. |
Sin Pew
Dakini Rising The Kali Cartel
54
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Posted - 2012.06.14 09:43:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=837108#post837108
DarthNefarius wrote:lol luv those NULL sec gaybear tears(...youtube link...) Keep up that crying about Incursions I got my Jar ready to catch more. I like how you state your ideas as CCP's... rewarding is in the eyes of the beholder & as long as these delicious tears keep comming outa Null Sec eyes I'll be collecting The waaah Hi Sec isn't making ISK like I want them too under my thumb threads tears don'ttaste salty at all
"- You want a sandwich, Bacon?" Support horizontal scrollbars in Eve! Click here, tyvm. |
Kelhund
Multiplex Gaming SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:29:00 -
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For the love of the Jovians, STOP NECROING THIS THREAD! |
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Tasiv Deka
Ganked And T Bagged
44
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Posted - 2012.06.14 23:07:00 -
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Kelhund wrote:For the love of the Jovians, STOP NECROING THIS THREAD! BUT WHAT ELSE AM I GOING TO SACRIFICE THIS HERD OF GOATS FOR??? My TLDRs are usually still pretty long... so buck up and read it because usually when someone talks that much theyre either a politician or they have something important to say... sometimes both... but not usually |
Kelhund
Multiplex Gaming SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7
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Posted - 2012.06.15 04:16:00 -
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Tasiv Deka wrote:Kelhund wrote:For the love of the Jovians, STOP NECROING THIS THREAD! BUT WHAT ELSE AM I GOING TO SACRIFICE THIS HERD OF GOATS FOR???
The Gods of the Nanoribbon Drops |
Tasiv Deka
Ganked And T Bagged
44
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Posted - 2012.06.15 04:42:00 -
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Kelhund wrote:Tasiv Deka wrote:Kelhund wrote:For the love of the Jovians, STOP NECROING THIS THREAD! BUT WHAT ELSE AM I GOING TO SACRIFICE THIS HERD OF GOATS FOR??? The Gods of the Nanoribbon Drops oh no they only take 100 mn tengus My TLDRs are usually still pretty long... so buck up and read it because usually when someone talks that much theyre either a politician or they have something important to say... sometimes both... but not usually |
Miles Parabellum
The Grindmonkeys
13
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Posted - 2012.06.15 09:00:00 -
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Kelhund wrote:Tasiv Deka wrote:Kelhund wrote:For the love of the Jovians, STOP NECROING THIS THREAD! BUT WHAT ELSE AM I GOING TO SACRIFICE THIS HERD OF GOATS FOR??? The Gods of the Nanoribbon Drops
The "Gods"?! Heresy! There is only one, true god of WH drops. |
Van Slyke
The Red Circle Inc.
2
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Posted - 2012.06.15 09:10:00 -
[465] - Quote
May Bob accept the sacrifice at your hands, for the praise and glory of his name, for our good, and the good of all our corps. |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Exhale.
53
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Posted - 2012.06.15 14:12:00 -
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Poor darthnefarious, forced to unsub by wormholer dwellers, nullsec alliances with phat moon goo, market tycoons and everyone else who made more isk than him.
Unless he's still here. I bet he is. |
Kalel Nimrott
Wishful Desires Inc. Armada Assail
12
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Posted - 2012.06.15 15:00:00 -
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Trolls never dies |
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
66
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Posted - 2012.06.16 05:04:00 -
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Van Slyke wrote:May Bob accept the sacrifice at your hands, for the praise and glory of his name, for our good, and the good of all our corps.
BoB died years ago, didn't you hear?
:P |
Celery Man
Talocan Mining And Industrial Talocan United
51
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Posted - 2012.06.16 12:03:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote: Well all I got to say is watch out if CCP Sauron's EYE ever glances towards WH's to 'fix' them else the nerf bat could destroy you all like the Incursion community was.
This is what you fail to understand - if we had our income nerfed by 50% we wouldn't give a crap. We live where we live because of where it is, which is far far far far away from bleating fools like yourself. The game mechanics we would freak out over being changed would ONLY be the ones that keep people like you away from people like us. THOSE are the mechanics we love with all our hearts.
Just to really push this point on you - WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE MONEY. The only thing we spend them on is ships to get blown up. We DO NOT want it in our wallets. I'm sure this is very very difficult for you to understand, and I really don't care if you do or not.
We don't have to care.
We have wormholes to keep you far far away from us :)
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Kelhund
Multiplex Gaming SpaceMonkey's Alliance
8
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Posted - 2012.06.16 16:23:00 -
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Himnos Altar wrote:Van Slyke wrote:May Bob accept the sacrifice at your hands, for the praise and glory of his name, for our good, and the good of all our corps. BoB died years ago, didn't you hear? :P
I lol'd :D |
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Renton Brax
Crimson Cell
6
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Posted - 2012.06.17 08:20:00 -
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This response covers it better than i can. |
Vjorn Angannon
Middleton and Mercer LLP Exotic Matter Coalition
29
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Posted - 2012.06.17 09:25:00 -
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All that was missing from that was the theme song from Two Mules for Sister Sarah |
Kalel Nimrott
Wishful Desires Inc. Armada Assail
12
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Posted - 2012.06.17 18:28:00 -
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Celery Man wrote:DarthNefarius wrote: Well all I got to say is watch out if CCP Sauron's EYE ever glances towards WH's to 'fix' them else the nerf bat could destroy you all like the Incursion community was.
This is what you fail to understand - if we had our income nerfed by 50% we wouldn't give a crap. We live where we live because of where it is, which is far far far far away from bleating fools like yourself. The game mechanics we would freak out over being changed would ONLY be the ones that keep people like you away from people like us. THOSE are the mechanics we love with all our hearts. Just to really push this point on you - WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE MONEY. The only thing we spend them on is ships to get blown up. We DO NOT want it in our wallets. I'm sure this is very very difficult for you to understand, and I really don't care if you do or not. We don't have to care. We have wormholes to keep you far far away from us :)
I have to add that other than Ships, which I just lost a scorpion...., +î buy plex to keep losing ships |
Sorxus
High Intellion Exhale.
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 22:03:00 -
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Inflation started when incursions were introduced. Thats it. |
Masikari
State War Academy Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.06.18 00:06:00 -
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People really need to stop feeding this thread. OP is an idiot. Please stop giving the idiot attention. He doesn't want to and cannot understand the mechanics of WH's. Leave him to rot with his dusty Incursion ship.
It pains me to type this as it is bumping it to the top. But please, no more. Our WH forum is polluted enough by newbies crying for free help, but this thread has really dirtied the water.
Please, stop feeding the idiotic troll! |
joes Bazooka
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.06.18 00:13:00 -
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Masikari wrote:People really need to stop feeding this thread. OP is an idiot. Please stop giving the idiot attention. He doesn't want to and cannot understand the mechanics of WH's. Leave him to rot with his dusty Incursion ship.
It pains me to type this as it is bumping it to the top. But please, no more. Our WH forum is polluted enough by newbies crying for free help, but this thread has really dirtied the water.
Please, stop feeding the idiotic troll!
The problem is not feeding the troll though, there are many threads that have whined about WH's recently but none of them have been moved to the WH subsection and without an ISD or CCP employee game enough to put their name on moving it here. So you can be assured someone that wanted to get responses about the topic and moved it here for a reason so it is no longer about explaining WH mechanics to the OP. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1244
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Posted - 2012.06.18 00:28:00 -
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joes Bazooka wrote:Masikari wrote:People really need to stop feeding this thread. OP is an idiot. Please stop giving the idiot attention. He doesn't want to and cannot understand the mechanics of WH's. Leave him to rot with his dusty Incursion ship.
It pains me to type this as it is bumping it to the top. But please, no more. Our WH forum is polluted enough by newbies crying for free help, but this thread has really dirtied the water.
Please, stop feeding the idiotic troll! The problem is not feeding the troll though, there are many threads that have whined about WH's recently but none of them have been moved to the WH subsection and without an ISD or CCP employee game enough to put their name on moving it here. So you can be assured someone that wanted to get responses about the topic and moved it here for a reason so it is no longer about explaining WH mechanics to the OP. I suspect they moved it here because it was cluttering up GD, and OP was bumping it every few days.
Unfortunately on this sub-forum you guys don't get enough new threads to bury this thing.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Masikari
State War Academy Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2012.06.18 00:29:00 -
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joes Bazooka wrote:Masikari wrote:People really need to stop feeding this thread. OP is an idiot. Please stop giving the idiot attention. He doesn't want to and cannot understand the mechanics of WH's. Leave him to rot with his dusty Incursion ship.
It pains me to type this as it is bumping it to the top. But please, no more. Our WH forum is polluted enough by newbies crying for free help, but this thread has really dirtied the water.
Please, stop feeding the idiotic troll! The problem is not feeding the troll though, there are many threads that have whined about WH's recently but none of them have been moved to the WH subsection and without an ISD or CCP employee game enough to put their name on moving it here. So you can be assured someone that wanted to get responses about the topic and moved it here for a reason so it is no longer about explaining WH mechanics to the OP.
Ok, interesting.
Well, I said it before and I'll say it again then - Wormholes were nerfed. Jumps-per-hour were removed and the introduction of heavy nueting was brought in to balance them. Now they are by far the most dangerous area of the game and have been made a lot more difficult to do anyway. So why do people think they need to be nerfed again?
I really don't think that folk should comment on an area of the game that they haven't explored. I have not flown n Null, so I do not comment on Null mechanics. For instance, I did not voice an opinion on the removal of drone-poo because it is not an area I know. People like the OP have not done WH's, so they shouldn't comment on them. So I SINCERELY hope CCP do not listen to people like this, purely on the principle that they do not know what they are talking about.
I'm just thankful that we have a CSM member who is a WH dweller and understands it all to back our corner.... I think
Edit: broke quote link |
Masikari
State War Academy Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2012.06.18 00:30:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:I suspect they moved it here because it was cluttering up GD, and OP was bumping it every few days.
Unfortunately on this sub-forum you guys don't get enough new threads to bury this thing.
True this. Let's make posts and bury this crap. The first move is for me to stop posting in here, lol
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joes Bazooka
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.06.18 02:24:00 -
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See i tend to dissagree, i do think we should be responding if there is a possibility someone of relevence may read it.
For instance i feel some WH classes should be buffed rather than nerfed, for instance C2's and C4's do not represent a good level of ISK/hour compared to other lower class respective WH's. |
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