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gnshadowninja
Caldari Baptism oF Fire B.L.A.C.K.
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Posted - 2009.01.05 11:43:00 -
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Recently been testing out the rifter and its an awesome ship hand down.
Roaming through curse there is only 2 ceptors i usually have a problem with.
Ranis n Crusader.
Other than them can effectively take down ceptors solo and sometimes some of the recons and cruisers.
My fit: High ------ 3 x Auto 200mm I 1 Rocket Launcher I
Mid ------ MWD I Warp Scram I Web I
Low ------ DC I Overdrive I Nano I (can swap for 100mm/200mm plate)
Yes, its all tech I and keep it that way otherwise your lose too much isk every death.
Combat ------------ Say your 50km off the gate, crow approaching you, Turn on DC I, lock, warp scram, web, then fire guns and orbit within optimal or 500m, your choice. Remember to overload. MWD if he starts to get away. Pew Pew a little and bang. Take out Pod after and loot and warp off before his friends turn up.
This is highly effective and if you have afew can nicely take stuff out and costs you nothing.
I have killed 100m+ fitted crows/raptors/Azazus, lost afew rifters though ;)
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Stefan F
Enrave Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.01.05 11:47:00 -
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you wont get within 20k of any decent flown interceptor and being picked apart slowly when your cap is out. 1/10.
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ry ry
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Posted - 2009.01.05 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 05/01/2009 11:55:19
isn't that just fairly standard tackling rifter? personally i prefer different fits, and the rifter is a ship that scales nicely when you throw t2 at it.
also can't see you catching many ceptors with it either since you're not doing to be moving much more than 3k/s. even overheating and turning into their orbit they should be able to out maneuver you and pick you apart.
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Ralarina
Caldari Vivicide
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Posted - 2009.01.05 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: gnshadowninja Recently been testing out the rifter and its an awesome ship hand down.
Roaming through curse there is only 2 ceptors i usually have a problem with.
Ranis n Crusader.
Other than them can effectively take down ceptors solo and sometimes some of the recons and cruisers.
My fit: High ------ 3 x Auto 200mm I 1 Rocket Launcher I
Mid ------ MWD I Warp Scram I Web I
Low ------ DC I Overdrive I Nano I (can swap for 100mm/200mm plate)
Yes, its all tech I and keep it that way otherwise your lose too much isk every death.
Combat ------------ Say your 50km off the gate, crow approaching you, Turn on DC I, lock, warp scram, web, then fire guns and orbit within optimal or 500m, your choice. Remember to overload. MWD if he starts to get away. Pew Pew a little and bang. Take out Pod after and loot and warp off before his friends turn up.
This is highly effective and if you have afew can nicely take stuff out and costs you nothing.
I have killed 100m+ fitted crows/raptors/Azazus, lost afew rifters though ;)
I've found, generally, when dealing with ships of your own size or SMALLER, try to "keep at range" and keep transversal down as low as possible with kiting and manual flying. Only orbit them if they're larger than your ship size (or you have a tracking bonus). Especially against a crow; his missiles will hit regardless but your guns will miss more often if you're orbitting eachother rather than if you burn in a straight line with him trying to catch you. --
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Groknor
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Posted - 2009.01.05 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Groknor on 05/01/2009 13:23:43 You don't have any tank at all. Heavy missiles will hit you, lights will hit you, drones will hit you, you can only outrun medium and large turrets, but those ships carry drones, which hit you. I don't see the point of going anywhere solo in this without a rep or plate.
Edit: I don't know what noobs you have been fighting but any inty will just tear you apart, or at the worst just run away.
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ry ry
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Posted - 2009.01.05 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Groknor Edit: I don't know what noobs you have been fighting but any inty will just tear you apart, or at the worst just run away.
at worst they'd just point him & hold him hostage in a belt until he got bored and self destructed.
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gnshadowninja
Caldari Baptism oF Fire B.L.A.C.K.
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:19:00 -
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As i said in the post, you have to let the ceptor apporach you and i also said a group of rifters could take out cruisers. Manicore Kill Rigged Maeldiction Rigged Crow Two of us on rigged crow (Med shield extender a bum)
Only posting some of these kills to show that it is possible. This was only a ship setup for people that want to roam about in something and have a laugh. No need to take it as a serious fleet pvp setup.
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Shigsy
Independent Traders Ignition.
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:21:00 -
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For blaster ranis fit an afterburner and kite around 7-8km.
Sader, the trouble is getting a web on him before he rips you a new one, so hope hes stupid and you get a quick web.
Also to the idiots saying inties will rip you a new one, ill 1v1 you anytime
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Furb Killer
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:27:00 -
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There are always idiots who lose their ceptor when there was no reason to lose it. But as anti ceptor throw away ship i would use a destroyer.
And any ceptor pilot with skill with easily destroy him, a crow for example can just keep point on him and shoot missiles at him till he is killed. ---------------------------------------------
Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:59:00 -
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Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 05/01/2009 15:00:51 Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 05/01/2009 14:59:38 I have had some fun, and some success in this:
[Rifter, lol passive] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II
Medium Shield Extender II Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I 1MN Afterburner II
150mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I, Republic Fleet EMP S 'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
By no means the best setup out there, but fun in a gang when the gang leader have very good shiled boosting skills :). I killed a Hawk in this yesterday, the Hawk (fully T2 fit) only got me to 70 % shiled before he poped :P. If you are goning solo tho, I belive this setup is one of the better ones:
[Rifter, Rifter] Small Armor Repairer II 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Gyrostabilizer II (or Damage Control II)
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Warp Scrambler II 1MN Afterburner II
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket (or a NOS)
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
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Neverah
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Posted - 2009.01.05 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Stefan F you wont get within 20k of any decent flown interceptor and being picked apart slowly when your cap is out. 1/10.
90% of all ceptor pilots from what ive killed solo (over 100) are ******ed like seriously ******ed. Very rarely do u find a ceptor that actually noes what it is doing.
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.05 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Neverah
Originally by: Stefan F you wont get within 20k of any decent flown interceptor and being picked apart slowly when your cap is out. 1/10.
90% of all ceptor pilots from what ive killed solo (over 100) are ******ed like seriously ******ed. Very rarely do u find a ceptor that actually noes what it is doing.
This. Most ceptors pilots are pretty nooby :P
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Gierling
Gallente Viper Squad
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Posted - 2009.01.05 16:10:00 -
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This post gets the "Gierling Tech I seal of approval"
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Commander Yassir
The Seven Sins
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Posted - 2009.01.05 16:31:00 -
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uhh... Why would the ceptor come into range of a web at all... Especially with the scram that will now shut down MWD's. Maybe I don't understand but did you just kill idiots? ~ The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. |
ry ry
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Posted - 2009.01.05 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 05/01/2009 16:33:21
Originally by: gnshadowninja As i said in the post, you have to let the ceptor apporach you and i also said a group of rifters could take out cruisers. Manicore Kill Rigged Maeldiction Rigged Crow Two of us on rigged crow (Med shield extender a bum)
Only posting some of these kills to show that it is possible. This was only a ship setup for people that want to roam about in something and have a laugh. No need to take it as a serious fleet pvp setup.
i entirely understand the appeal of the rifters - they're brilliant little ships and a large portion of my kills earlier in my eve-life were in a rifter, but those interceptor pilots must have hit approach. even if you turn back into their orbit and overheat they're still likely to be faster than your rifter, and if they overheat they can probably slingshot themselves out of your web as they clip into your range.
that's not to say they aren't good kills, just that as mentioned interceptor pilots are often fairly rubbish.
all that crow had to do was activate his launchers and stay out of web range, assuming he managed to mash the Fkeys with his palm he obviously failed at the second part.
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gnshadowninja
Caldari Baptism oF Fire B.L.A.C.K.
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Posted - 2009.01.05 17:11:00 -
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Just took out another crow lol,
Yeh see thats the problem, if a rifter manages to engage a ceptor, its basically screwed unless support turns up. I look out for certain ceptors not to engage...
By no means am i saying its full proof, same as any ship. It depends on your tactics, the variables of the battle such as fits/rigs/ships/support turning up.
But naturally a ceptor who don't know what there doing looses to a standard tech I rifter setup.
And talking about orbiting. Yeh i had that problem before when a ceptor was coming towards me in orbit, only problem is once i overloaded my speed was greater than his and got out of his disruptor range, other times ive died. Best idea is to try and bait a ceptor.
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DarkonRhoe
Ergo Abstergo
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Posted - 2009.01.05 21:27:00 -
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Rifter:
high 3 150mm II AC barage 1 whatever rocket luancher you want to fit. + rockets
mids AB web scram
low SAR II DCU II 200MM RT plate.
deadly cheap and fun. wont kill the long range intys but those blaster ranises are in trouble :D Calmarri
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Sarciss
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.01.05 22:12:00 -
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[Rifter, RIFTARAHGAHGH] 400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Capacitor Power Relay II Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket
Pew pew, set up is a beast, even fit Damage/ROF rigs if your nuts.
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Hugh Ruka
Exploratio et Industria Morispatia
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Posted - 2009.01.05 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: gnshadowninja As i said in the post, you have to let the ceptor apporach you and i also said a group of rifters could take out cruisers. Manicore Kill Rigged Maeldiction Rigged Crow Two of us on rigged crow (Med shield extender a bum)
Only posting some of these kills to show that it is possible. This was only a ship setup for people that want to roam about in something and have a laugh. No need to take it as a serious fleet pvp setup.
can you post any decent inty kill ? I mean one that was not lol-fit ? --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed ! |
Amarr'd
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.05 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Stefan F you wont get within 20k of any decent flown interceptor and being picked apart slowly when your cap is out. 1/10.
None of these seam to be in ED tho
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Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.01.05 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr'd
Originally by: Stefan F you wont get within 20k of any decent flown interceptor and being picked apart slowly when your cap is out. 1/10.
None of these seam to be in ED tho
OHSNAP NICE ONE CHED GOOD POST ++
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Mya ElleTerego
The Hull Miners Union Primary.
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Posted - 2009.01.05 23:25:00 -
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2009.01.04 09:16
Victim: suprised pilot Corp: SniggWaffe Alliance: None Faction: NONE Destroyed: Crow System: Old Man Star Security: 0.3 Damage Taken: 1553
Involved parties:
Name: Gruelokk (laid the final blow) Security: 0.0 Corp: Empire Plunder Bunnies Alliance: None Faction: NONE Ship: Rifter Weapon: 200mm AutoCannon II Damage Done: 1553
Destroyed items:
TE-2100 Standard Missile Bay TE-2100 Standard Missile Bay 75mm Gatling Rail II Caldari Navy Iron Charge S, Qty: 187 Overdrive Injector System II Caldari Navy Iron Charge S, Qty: 400 (Cargo) Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 500 (Cargo)
Dropped items:
TE-2100 Standard Missile Bay Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 129 Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 350 (Cargo) Iron Charge S, Qty: 400 (Cargo)
grue has less than 900 k sp lol, rifters are truly evil. CEO For the Hull Miners Union [ONION]
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Amarr'd
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.05 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
Originally by: Amarr'd
Originally by: Stefan F you wont get within 20k of any decent flown interceptor and being picked apart slowly when your cap is out. 1/10.
None of these seam to be in ED tho
OHSNAP NICE ONE CHED GOOD POST ++
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CHED
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.01.05 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
Originally by: Amarr'd
Originally by: Stefan F you wont get within 20k of any decent flown interceptor and being picked apart slowly when your cap is out. 1/10.
None of these seam to be in ED tho
OHSNAP NICE ONE CHED GOOD POST ++
Hello Nexus Kinnon, is it cause ur fat?
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CHED
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.01.05 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr'd
Originally by: Stefan F you wont get within 20k of any decent flown interceptor and being picked apart slowly when your cap is out. 1/10.
None of these seam to be in ED tho
I agree with this post I am not an alt also
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Shacksman
Gallente M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.01.06 00:34:00 -
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dude dont listen to all the negative emo f4gs, your pvp'ing and sound like your having lots of fun thats what the game is all about keep it up.
can i sugget a cheap addition to your setup Hardwiring - Eifyr and Co 'Gunslinger' SX-1 only cost 200-600k in some places.
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ry ry
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Posted - 2009.01.06 00:45:00 -
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most of his kills are in a cane with t2 arties - he's not that new mate ;)
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers
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Posted - 2009.01.06 00:56:00 -
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Sounds good. All of you naysayers are assuming that the interceptors have skilled pilots and good fittings. Many a noob flies an interceptor, I have seen them and killed a couple with stuff less appropriate to the task than a Rifter. I love nothing better than flying out with a suicide fleet of T1 junk and coming back, unexpectedly, alive and with great killmails. .............
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Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.01.06 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: CHED
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
Originally by: Amarr'd
Originally by: Stefan F you wont get within 20k of any decent flown interceptor and being picked apart slowly when your cap is out. 1/10.
None of these seam to be in ED tho
OHSNAP NICE ONE CHED GOOD POST ++
Hello Nexus Kinnon, is it cause ur fat?
lookee here what my virgin trap caught...
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Erocitnom
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Posted - 2009.01.06 04:58:00 -
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Edited by: Erocitnom on 06/01/2009 05:03:38 i like
3x 200, rocket mwd/scram/med extender nano/nano/mapc rof/dmg rigs
3600m/s decent dps and tank enough to kill msot ceptors
blaster ranis with scram/web might be a problem
i does ok vs crusaders http://axe.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=33425
not sure if its good crusader fit or not though.
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