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Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:27:00 -
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Following on from my other thread where this was raised (OK, I raised it - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=96484&find=unread ), why do ISD members have to ability to drag you into a chat room immediately without your consent (i.e., no message box saying "xxx is inviting you to a conversation")?
Gorki for one doesn't care for this Big Brother-esque invasion of his privacy. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6115
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:30:00 -
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Gorki Andropov wrote:Following on from my other thread where this was raised (OK, I raised it - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=96484&find=unread ), why do ISD members have to ability to drag you into a chat room immediately without your consent (i.e., no message box saying "xxx is inviting you to a conversation")? Gorki for one doesn't care for this Big Brother-esque invasion of his privacy. Because they're mini-GMs and doing so is part of their job and the tools they need for that job. Would you prefer that they just kick you out of the game so the matter can be discussed over email instead? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Kehro Urgus
Aliastra Gallente Federation
286
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:30:00 -
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They need some way to amuse themselves when they run out threads to lock. Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so much. -- Oscar Wilde
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Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
307
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:30:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Gorki Andropov wrote:Following on from my other thread where this was raised (OK, I raised it - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=96484&find=unread ), why do ISD members have to ability to drag you into a chat room immediately without your consent (i.e., no message box saying "xxx is inviting you to a conversation")? Gorki for one doesn't care for this Big Brother-esque invasion of his privacy. Because they're mini-GMs and doing so is part of their job and the tools they need for that job. Would you prefer that they just kick you out of the game so the matter can be discussed over email instead?
Pretty much. |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
495
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:31:00 -
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why do you care. unless they spam it idont see the issue. |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
307
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:32:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:why do you care. unless they spam it idont see the issue.
I care because I can
e: it's an important issue to my heart |
Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc Order of the Void
275
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:33:00 -
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Gorki Andropov wrote:Tippia wrote:Gorki Andropov wrote:Following on from my other thread where this was raised (OK, I raised it - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=96484&find=unread ), why do ISD members have to ability to drag you into a chat room immediately without your consent (i.e., no message box saying "xxx is inviting you to a conversation")? Gorki for one doesn't care for this Big Brother-esque invasion of his privacy. Because they're mini-GMs and doing so is part of their job and the tools they need for that job. Would you prefer that they just kick you out of the game so the matter can be discussed over email instead? Pretty much. To expand: GMs deal with the really really important issues, right? Like bannings, account irregularities, whatever? I have no objections to GMs having that ability - but I do object to ISD being able to do that to me.
Go back to WoW cry baby |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
227
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:36:00 -
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Because they are you superior, your higher power, and YOUR GOD. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:37:00 -
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Gorki Andropov wrote:Herping yourDerp wrote:why do you care. unless they spam it idont see the issue. I care because I can e: it's an important issue to my heart
More like, you're in competition with masternerdguy. I think masternerdguy is ahead though, but then he's probably had more practice. |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
227
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:39:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:Gorki Andropov wrote:Herping yourDerp wrote:why do you care. unless they spam it idont see the issue. I care because I can e: it's an important issue to my heart More like, you're in competition with Masternerdguy. I think Masternerdguy is ahead though, but then he's probably had more practice.
Or maybe he is masternerdguy Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
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Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
307
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:39:00 -
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Oh, I'm sorry - I didn't mean to step on your ballet pumps, oh twinkle toes. |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
307
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:41:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Gorki Andropov wrote:Herping yourDerp wrote:why do you care. unless they spam it idont see the issue. I care because I can e: it's an important issue to my heart More like, you're in competition with Masternerdguy. I think Masternerdguy is ahead though, but then he's probably had more practice. Or maybe he is masternerdguy
That would spice things up certainly but I can claim no credit |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:41:00 -
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This thread is now about how Gorki Andropov is Master nerd's bannable alt.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6115
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:43:00 -
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Anyway, the answer is GÇ£because you already gave them permission, per the EULAGÇ¥, as described in your other tread. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
227
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:43:00 -
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Gorki Andropov wrote:THE L0CK wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Gorki Andropov wrote:Herping yourDerp wrote:why do you care. unless they spam it idont see the issue. I care because I can e: it's an important issue to my heart More like, you're in competition with Masternerdguy. I think Masternerdguy is ahead though, but then he's probably had more practice. Or maybe he is masternerdguy That would spice things up certainly but I can claim no credit
I see your ruse and raise you one nod with suspicious eyes. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
307
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:43:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:This thread is now about how Gorki Andropov is Master nerd's bannable alt.
No you poor sap, it's still about ISD violations of my privacy ^^ |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
307
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:45:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Anyway, the answer is GÇ£because you already gave them permission, per the EULAGÇ¥, as described in your other tread.
Granting a company the earth and your immortal soul through an EULA is one thing: how a company behaves in it's implementation of that and it's other policies is something else entirely. |
Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:45:00 -
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ISD violated your privates? |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
307
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:47:00 -
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Several times, I can barely bring myself to speak of the incident ;( |
Luxi Daphiti
Intelli-core The Mockers AO
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:49:00 -
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How is it invading your privacy? If someone walks up to you in the street and goes "Hi, how's it going?" that not an invasion of privacy because you didn't explicitly state that they may enter a discussion with you. You just walk away and/or ignore them. Do the same with the ISDs. |
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Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
307
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:52:00 -
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Hello? That's precisely the point - I *can't* ignore them because they pull me into a chat room without me having any say in the matter! |
Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:52:00 -
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Luxi Daphiti wrote:How is it invading your privacy? If someone walks up to you in the street and goes "Hi, how's it going?" that not an invasion of privacy because you didn't explicitly state that they may enter a discussion with you. You just walk away and/or ignore them. Do the same with the ISDs.
I think it'd be more like a cop coming up and saying "excuse me, can you step over here for a moment". If you step away from the cop he's going to restrain you until you cooperate with him. If you close the convo on the ISD then they'll probably temp ban you until you cooperate with them. |
jason hill
The Riot Formation Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:55:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:ISD violated your privates?
lol |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6118
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:56:00 -
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Gorki Andropov wrote:Granting a company the earth and your immortal soul through an EULA is one thing: how a company behaves in it's implementation of that and it's other policies is something else entirely. Good thing that you're not doing anything of the sort then, but rather agree that you will co-operate with ze law or have the law co-operate you for them.
GǪor what Micheal Dietrich said. They're not invading your privacy. They're contacting you and you're obliged to do what they say. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
307
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:56:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Luxi Daphiti wrote:How is it invading your privacy? If someone walks up to you in the street and goes "Hi, how's it going?" that not an invasion of privacy because you didn't explicitly state that they may enter a discussion with you. You just walk away and/or ignore them. Do the same with the ISDs. I think it'd be more like a cop coming up and saying "excuse me, can you step over here for a moment". If you step away from the cop he's going to restrain you until you cooperate with him. If you close the convo on the ISD then they'll probably temp ban you until you cooperate with them.
Volunteer moderators banning people? Wowzers! |
Luxi Daphiti
Intelli-core The Mockers AO
84
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:57:00 -
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Gorki Andropov wrote:Hello? That's precisely the point - I *can't* ignore them because they pull me into a chat room without me having any say in the matter! Yeah but no one is forcing you to hit keys on your keyboard and respond to them. Just say you're AFK and then never return.
Micheal Dietrich wrote:I think it'd be more like a cop coming up and saying "excuse me, can you step over here for a moment". If you step away from the cop he's going to restrain you until you cooperate with him. If you close the convo on the ISD then they'll probably temp ban you until you cooperate with them. If there is a ban for not 'cooperating' then fair enough, I'll support of OP. Else, I not entirely sure what the bother is. Maybe I need to experience it for myself! |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1114
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Posted - 2012.04.16 19:02:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Luxi Daphiti wrote:How is it invading your privacy? If someone walks up to you in the street and goes "Hi, how's it going?" that not an invasion of privacy because you didn't explicitly state that they may enter a discussion with you. You just walk away and/or ignore them. Do the same with the ISDs. I think it'd be more like a cop coming up and saying "excuse me, can you step over here for a moment". If you step away from the cop he's going to restrain you until you cooperate with him. If you close the convo on the ISD then they'll probably temp ban you until you cooperate with them.
If you have nothing to hide and in front of your computer you can answer. If you're afk for whatever reason and if they really want to contact you, they must know by know you need an E-mail adress for your account registration.
Another fail in the wall.
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Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
277
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Posted - 2012.04.16 19:11:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:Luxi Daphiti wrote:How is it invading your privacy? If someone walks up to you in the street and goes "Hi, how's it going?" that not an invasion of privacy because you didn't explicitly state that they may enter a discussion with you. You just walk away and/or ignore them. Do the same with the ISDs. I think it'd be more like a cop coming up and saying "excuse me, can you step over here for a moment". If you step away from the cop he's going to restrain you until you cooperate with him. If you close the convo on the ISD then they'll probably temp ban you until you cooperate with them. If you have nothing to hide and in front of your computer you can answer. If you're afk for whatever reason and if they really want to contact you, they must know by know you need an E-mail adress for your account registration. Another fail in the wall.
Being AFK is one thing, eventually you'll be back to your PC. I'm talking about intentionally closing the convo on them.
And to my knowledge the ISD can't ban but they can send your information and the recommendation to those who can. That same party can also come and check on you to see if you are intentionally ignoring them or not. |
ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells
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Posted - 2012.04.16 19:15:00 -
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Gorki, who do the forums belong to? ........... CCP yes of course they do.
Who employs the ISDs? ............................... CCP yes of course they do.
so the ISDs police the forums, and if your out of order, the ISDs will feel your collar.
If you have a problem with it petition CCP. I,m quite sure they will read you the riot act. |
Vetorept Fera
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
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Posted - 2012.04.16 19:24:00 -
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Gorki Andropov wrote:I was trolling and got collared, I don't like this.
In pace requiescat |
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