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Bill Lane
Carebear Mafia
18
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Posted - 2012.04.17 06:01:00 -
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Tiberius Amzadee wrote:The harsh truth about casual/solo players. 1.Don't have to deal with the headache of managing more then one person to get things done. 2.A clean schedule free of commitments and deadlines set by the collective. 3.Too small and insignificant as an entity to be harassed in most cases.(It is EVE after all) 4.Too lazy to command more then one person at a time anyway. 5.All the profits go to me,myself,and I. 6.Will always play as no other game currently has no equal to depth and value of the EVE gaming experience. 7.Internet Spaceships are even more of a serious business as we can only afford or build so many ships ourselves at a time. 8.We simply freaking love space.
Very good Tiberius. Was just getting ready to post pretty much the same thing.
OP: I have participated in big alliances and small highsec corps. Miner/cap pilot.
Now I am a casual/solo miner, and i haven't been asking for handouts. I play when I want, how I want, for however long I want. Nobody depends on me. Have 3 accounts that I use for my own enjoyment. Once in a while I do get to fleet up with a friend in system, but rarely. And I have my friends in game that I always socialize with and we don't use real names, so I'm pretty sure that takes care of my multiplayer and role playing parts.
And to be completely honest, I see a hell of a lot more whining about game mechanics from big blob alliance folks than from solo players. Not saying that your list is bad, as I'm really not crying about anything on it. But I'd appreciate it if you'd not make it sound like every casual/solo player is just a whiny *****, because I for one am not. To be honest, all of the casual/solo players I know haven't asked for anything on your list, and I am frequently reading the forums.
To summarize: if you wanna cry about people whining and begging to get game mechanics changed, do some research and see who the majority are. Thanks |

Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
92
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Posted - 2012.04.17 06:49:00 -
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Simple fix for casuals/solo-ers:
Looking For Fleet (aka LFG) should have some sort of bonus, whether it be straight up bonus ISK while on a mission or something similar to LPs...hell, maybe even LPs; that way you don't have to group to get items.
What would be nice is if they'd implement Dust 514 into EVE, and let players do "Hot Drops" into battle matches similar to a Halo match...just something to do when you're bored of playing solo, but don't want the "YOU ******* X-UP OR CORP-KICK!" that tends to come with active corps. |

Mark Androcius
27
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Posted - 2012.04.17 07:13:00 -
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The OP probably got some sand in her P*ssy.
I hate the average human being, they are stupid, ignorant and egotistical.
this however, does not mean i hate working with people, as long as they are none of the before mentioned.
You most likely though, are not one of the people I'd like to team up with. Yes i am dutch, no i don't do drugs. |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
553
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Posted - 2012.04.17 07:18:00 -
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Everyone gets the same rules no matter how often you play, keep it that way.
As for needing to dedicate 8 hours a day.. No. I ceo a very successful nullsec pvp corp and I only play a couple of hours 4 to 6 times a week. Its about playing smart, not playing hard. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Roime
Shiva Furnace
481
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Posted - 2012.04.17 07:42:00 -
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On some forums, people are banned for badposting.
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
593
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Posted - 2012.04.17 08:08:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote: Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time.
I really don't want to be forced to join a bunch of guys I don't know that might take all my stuff because they can. I rather invest time and money and effort in building something nice with friends, that in turn can offcourse can be taken away by other guys, because they can. I don't see the problem here, your complaining about a possible influx in 0.0 targets?
masternerdguy wrote: Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship.
Numbers are important in a fight, no doubt. But some kind of tactics besides the blob would be nice. Besides numbers aren't always important. Caesars fight against Pompey had 500 cavalry facing 5000, the 500 defeated the blob of 5000 which was released as one handely and handed the fight to caesar.
Another victory that comes to mind are the victory at salamis where a big persian fleet was forced to fight a nimble greek fleet in an inlet and the defeat that was a victory of Thermoplaye. Or you can take Cannae as an example on how to kill a blob.
On the other hand there are plenty of examples of numbers winning the day (Russia (WWII), France (Napoleon), WWI, etc). A balance should be struck there, but it should be a balance, not a one sided idea of numbers = win
masternerdguy wrote: Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be. Discuss.
EVE isn't a game that is "intended" to be anything. You can do what you want CCP gives options. The options should be clearly free of any kind of "idea" how to play the game. Hence, sandbox.
You shouldn't be forced to join a 5000+ alliance You shouldn't be forced to have fleetfights of 2000+
We should be able to make a living and fun hanging out in smaller groups and friends We should be able to have fights of significance with small, medium and larger fleets under 500 ships and win against large groups because of tactics. (see latest clarion call for excellent fitting during fight options)
We should be able to have large meaningful 5000+ alliances We should have meaningful fleet fights of 2000+
masternerdguy wrote:Discuss.
We should always, always, discuss. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |

Jastra
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
71
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Posted - 2012.04.17 08:13:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:The Harsh Truth About "masternerdguy"
You must be really lonely and need to post for attention.
hehe, I was thinking the same |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
219
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Posted - 2012.04.17 08:17:00 -
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Jastra wrote:Doc Fury wrote:The Harsh Truth About "masternerdguy"
You must be really lonely and need to post for attention.
hehe, I was thinking the same
I was going to quote the same thing, so I'll settle for quoting you quoting the same thing.
Note to self: Stop posting in a masternerdguy thread. |

Laviski
UK Corp RAZOR Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.04.17 08:17:00 -
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+1 for OP
if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2085
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Posted - 2012.04.17 08:29:00 -
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I know it's just another attempt at humour from the OP but this time it's actually mildly amusing.
I am a solo player and have absolutely zero interest in any of the things stated in the original post B) (a&a_a&b) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a&a_a&b) |
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Ank Parkor
WildSpace Otters
17
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Posted - 2012.04.17 08:31:00 -
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EVE is a solo game with ennemies having sometimes great AI.
Short time trader, short term missionner, long term ambitions. |

TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
129
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Posted - 2012.04.17 09:19:00 -
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Kattshiro wrote:make null sec more accessible to smaller corps or people besides having to hold space or be in a uber alliance. (Exploration, null indie etc)
**BUZZER** What is NPC 0.0? |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3359
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Posted - 2012.04.17 11:18:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:You are choosing to play an MMOrpg by yourself, and are complaining about not having enough advantages? Let's go down the list of things causal players tend to suggest.
- Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time.
- More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo.
- Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content.
- Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship.
- Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive.
- Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP.
- Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it.
Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be. Discuss.
masternerdguy made a sensible OP
I was there Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-ahttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
328
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Posted - 2012.04.17 13:22:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Cearain wrote: You are role playing a character in eve. Then why should I get a ban if I tell you to go kill yourself when I'm role playing my character? And why should my post be deleted by an ISD guy when I'm role playing my character in this forum with some goon insulting my char of idiot? Why so serious?
Its funny how the anti-roleplay people have a difficult time seperating the game from reality.
Just some general tips:
1) If you are posting on these boards about a computer game called EVE you are not "in the game."
2) If you show up publicly as a real person, at a real event and talk about eve mails you received which address a persons real life issues, you are not "in game."
If your character tells my character to go kill himself then you shouldn't be banned. But it needs to be clear from the context that your character is telling my character to kill himself. Since we are currently on a computer game forum talking about possible changes to a computer game it would be hard to see how you could claim its your character talking. (see number 1 above.)
However if you are in the game and you see my characters ship jump through a gate and say "kill Cearain in the merlin" Or even just "kill him" or even post in local "you're gonna die" its easy to see you mean that in game.
Yes there may be cases where its not so clear from the context. But it seems the anti-roleplay crowd often don't understand even the easy cases. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
328
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Posted - 2012.04.17 13:27:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I know it's just another attempt at humour from the OP but this time it's actually mildly amusing.
I am a solo player and have absolutely zero interest in any of the things stated in the original post B)
Of course you don't. Its just another red herring from someone who has some self esteem issues about how they play a computer game.
OP no one is judging you for how you play a computer game. So you shouldn't feel the need to make up bs about what others do to make yourself feel better. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1422
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Posted - 2012.04.17 13:36:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:
Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship.
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You forgot about the whole "I don't want my fleet gang banged by 10 Titans, so please nerf supers so my rifter can get sum" dimension. |

Romar Agent
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.04.17 14:08:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Let's go down the list of things causal players tend to suggest.
- Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time.
- More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo.
- Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content.
- Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship.
- Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive.
- Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP.
- Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it.
Who said that?
I haven't heard anyone complain. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
293
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Posted - 2012.04.17 14:26:00 -
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Ayuren Aakiwa wrote:Didn't read most of the thread, but every person that is convinced 'dueling' should be in eve should be lit on fire...
Also +1 op, your doing it right
i think the whole point of a dueling system is to have ships lit on fire...
though ccp already said they are working on a dueling system by enhancing the mutual war dec system via the merc market...
PLEX FOR PIZZA!
TECH iii MINNING SHIPS! |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1311
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Posted - 2012.04.17 14:26:00 -
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Kattshiro wrote:I think you miss understand the small holdings claim...rather make null sec more accessible to smaller corps or people besides having to hold space or be in a uber alliance. (Exploration, null indie etc)
It's called w-space. Set up shop in a C1/2 with a C1 or C2 static. You can solo everything you find. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |

Jonah Gravenstein
150
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Posted - 2012.04.17 14:31:00 -
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My day job involves working in a team, they're a bunch of useless gits if not pushed TBH, so why would I want to repeat the experience in something I do for fun?. In game I'm my own boss, I do what I want, when I want and as little or as much as I want.
I don't moan about getting ganked, I don't tell people that don't play the way I play that they're doing it wrong (looks at certain hi-sec professions) and above all I'm not out to ruin the game, if my play style ruins your game by being different then I have a bucket ready for filling  War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
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Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
8
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Posted - 2012.04.17 15:05:00 -
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Funny, I don't recall complaining about flying solo or asking for special treatment. GV, They'll always be bloodclaws to me GV= |

Sukmee Nou
Helt paa tur
0
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Posted - 2012.04.17 15:26:00 -
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Kattshiro wrote:Poor business plan to only cater to people that have 6 - 8 hours a day to blow on a game.
You can in fact have content for both groups...
I think you miss understand the small holdings claim...rather make null sec more accessible to smaller corps or people besides having to hold space or be in a uber alliance. (Exploration, null indie etc)
How to Miss Understand. Marry her |

Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
236
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Posted - 2012.04.17 16:50:00 -
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Montevius Williams wrote:That said, if someone wants to play EVE online alone, who am I to tell them otherwise. It's their 15 bucks a month, not mine.
Yeah well I pay 15 bucks a month and I want a massive cannon that I can fire anywhere I want. Cannon plz. If you're in a player corp then war-dec is just something you have to accept is coming with it, regardless of your play-style. ~CCP |

Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
119
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Posted - 2012.04.17 16:59:00 -
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I think that solo eve, or small group is one of the best parts of eve. Tactially is the most challenging since need well planned fleets and tactics, covert operations for low and null pve is excellent since you fight tough npcs without powerships, solo/casual play is great. It is larger group stuff that needs more work. |

Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
63
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Posted - 2012.04.17 17:09:00 -
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Leaving aside the Op's ridiculous straw man caricature. I enjoy playing solo mostly because it makes people like the Op sad/mad/cry. |

Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
72
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Posted - 2012.04.17 17:10:00 -
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Sukmee Nou wrote:Kattshiro wrote:Poor business plan to only cater to people that have 6 - 8 hours a day to blow on a game.
You can in fact have content for both groups...
I think you miss understand the small holdings claim...rather make null sec more accessible to smaller corps or people besides having to hold space or be in a uber alliance. (Exploration, null indie etc) How to Miss Understand. Marry her
Shes not the marrying type... (They say communication is key which she lacks) point in fact you can do better. |

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.04.17 17:12:00 -
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Manssell wrote:Leaving aside the Op's ridiculous straw man caricature. I enjoy playing solo mostly because it makes people like the Op sad/mad/cry.
Me too
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
467
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Posted - 2012.04.17 17:15:00 -
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I disagree with your post, sir. Once again, we have someone who plays one way and thinks everyone else should play that way too.
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LocalHost
Gyro Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.04.17 17:15:00 -
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Kattshiro wrote:Poor business plan to only cater to people that have 6 - 8 hours a day to blow on a game.
You can in fact have content for both groups...
I think you miss understand the small holdings claim...rather make null sec more accessible to smaller corps or people besides having to hold space or be in a uber alliance. (Exploration, null indie etc)
I was just saying the same thing in another thread. Eve is indeed a sandbox and arguably the best sandbox game available for quite some time. The only reason 9 years later I still play is that I CAN decide to PVP in a group 1 year, and then take a break and do some PI or invention/manufacturing, or god forbid even spank some roids for production. I even took a small break but still logged in to play the market, buying low and selling high.
Diversity is a good thing IMHO. It's when a MMO caters to one group at the expense of another where the issue comes in, and lost subs, etc. The large divide between all out PVP/POS bashing and the rest of Eve (Mining, missions, production, invention, etc) is what prevents more folks from playing, IMHO.
Here's a RL example. If in the US all we had as a choice of occupation was the military to fight and take ground, who would be producing the basic and non-basic things you need to survive when you're not on the field ? Arguably, someone has to do that perceived menial task of mining, producing ships/ammo/equipment, and managing items on the market. If you didn't have that element of player, given how Eve's economy now runs, eventually the hard core PVPers wouldnt have any ships to replace the shinies they lost and eventually no one would fight since the cost of losing would be prohibitive.
Just something to consider there. I too for a time in the early years of the game looked down on production and the like until I tried it and realized that the guy geeking around in his little high-sec POS producing ammo was just as valuable as me and my corporation going around blowing up space and claiming ground.
My 2 cents,
Localhost
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.04.17 17:15:00 -
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I also play exclusively in High sec cause that makes low sec/null sec ppl cry
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
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