Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 30 [39]:: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 13 post(s) |
Malrock
Caldari Mea Culpa Enigma Nexus-Alliance
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 07:00:00 -
[1141]
Edited by: Malrock on 19/01/2009 07:00:21 Asside of all that complaining id like to know when SM4 will be supported and when we gonna have 64 bit client? (not to mention proper vista/windows 7 support)
Also is there plans to integrate PysX support ?
Give us a visit. |
AnyOldIron
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 07:36:00 -
[1142]
You may have been right KAGURA NIKON if it wasn`t for this :-
Sunnyvale (CA) - AMD announced today it will cut 1100 jobs and trim salaries in an attempt to "navigate the turbulent economic conditions." AMD will release its financial data on January 22, 2009 at 5:00pm EST.
Hector Ruiz and Dirk Meyer will both have their base pay reduced by 20%, according to AMD. Additional Canada and US employees will receive pay cuts ranging from 5% for "overtime eligible" workers to 15% for vice presidents. AMD's operations outside of North America will offer "voluntary pay measures consistent with local policies and regulations." AMD will also suspend matching contributions to worker retirement plans in both Canada and the US.
AMD wrote in their release: "As a result of the continuing global economic downturn, we have determined that we need to take difficult, but prudent, actions designed to reduce our costs."
Intel, AMD's chief competitor, recently announced an 88% reduction in net profits down to $234 million, and a significant reduction in quarterly revenue - down to $8.3 billion. Intel also posted internal guidance for Q1'2009 which estimates quarterly revenue in the low $7-billion range - though are refusing to state such a forecast publicly in official filings. That figure is only for internal guidance, according to Intel. |
AnyOldIron
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 07:47:00 -
[1143]
and this :-
It appears that the biggest corporations of today are all working together, using the economic model developed by John Forbes Nash, the Nobel Laureate whose theory was the subject of the recent popular movie called A Beautiful Mind (with Russell Crowe). His model basically states that a system of multiple entities working together for each other's mutual benefit (by ignoring the "big fish" and going for more "lesser fish), results in a sum total of greater success than were each entity looking out only for its own success (by going after those "big fish" alone). And to put it even more simply, it means "there's economic strength in numbers."
Such a system may allow corporations to survive, be stronger cash players, increase profits for those involved while continuing to appear outwardly as being innovative when, in fact, they are all playing their little roles in a well-thought-out, planned, global ecology that stifles innovation in favor of equality. It ultimately creates the type of R&D, manufacturing and distribution chain as we see today - and it's one that's wholly damaging to the regular people.
Consumer's needs are no longer the targets of huge corporations. They don't care if we have the best, worst or something in the middle - and they surely aren't looking to give us WOW! products. Their only interests are efforts designed to keep their cash cows mooing - by releasing what they feel we'll buy, and by doing so at a speed which operates within their planned product releases.
|
Odhinn Vinlandii
Incurable Insanity Shadow of xXDEATHXx
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 08:54:00 -
[1144]
Originally by: CCP Zulupark It's good to see that people are giving constructive feedback. The biggest concerns appear to be with the SM3 change, especially in regards to laptops.
Please keep commenting, we're reading this thread and gathering info and data to see what concerns you have. The only way for us to make and revise plans about these sorts of things is by having an open and honest discussion with the players and that seems to be working fine :-)
I am a poor student and single father of two boys.
My laptop only has dual Mobility Radeaon HD 3870 in CrossfireX config.
I don't see how some of these more well off guys could possibly upgrade.
|
Petrik L
Gallente FeHo Lonely Miners UnLimited
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 09:30:00 -
[1145]
Edited by: Petrik L on 19/01/2009 09:29:55 I have at my worksplace a premium ready PC, but I use the Classic client, becouse I have <20 FPS with the premium client....
1* 2,8GHz P4D S775 2* 1GB RAM 1* ATI Radeon HD 2400Pro AGP |
Rsorh Nalozigur
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 10:38:00 -
[1146]
Edited by: Rsorh Nalozigur on 19/01/2009 10:38:45 Well i think the main problem for us "Customers" is that with this change for many of us the experience will get worse instead of getting better.
Quote:
We know this will affect some players out there. What we don't know is exactly how many.
This will not affect "some" players but this will affect most of the players and the reason for that you can read below.
Quote:
We estimate that about 95% of all subscribers currently have hardware that is SM2 compatible. We further predict that in q4 this year over 97% of subscribers will have SM3 capable hardware. This means that an estimate of anywhere from 3%-5% of current subscribers would have to update their computers or graphics cards to be able to continue playing.
CCP should make a assessment of how many people that actually play using Premium client who already have systems capable of playing with Premium i.e. SM3 capable hardware. My hardware is capable of running Premium client but i get so less FPS in it that it is best not to run premium client but classic client, and i am sure many people use Classic clients for similar reasons. Premium client has too many shortcomings compared to classic client.
Why they are phasing out classic client in name of premium client i can't understand. Classic client does everything with good performance but the catchy graphics things but i and many others are not here for that "shiny catchy things" in eve, we are here for the game play that EVE offers. If i have to go after good graphics in games then i can go to many other games out there which already have very nice graphics.
CCP has been talking about useless crap for years like the ambulation for e.g., but this news of phasing out of classic engine was passed on just 2 months before, what about people that are subscribing to CCP for 6 months and 12 months period and not capable of enjoying the same EVE with the premium client or even worse not able to play it at all?
One more thing is CCP always encourage people to use multiple accounts, even gives out special offers for having multiple accounts, and now with this change? now people have to use all their different systems to be able to utilize multiple accounts? and some people will have such type of systems which can't be upgraded properly so what do they do? purchase new ones?
The timing of this change is utter idiotic, while there is recession everywhere, and people are trying to cut their expenses CCP is forcing them to expend more, may be they have reasons to do it as is clear by many posts and their own blog that they want to reduce their maintainability costs, but at the expanse of the player base, seriously?
I have witnessed serious flaws in CCP's customer interaction teams, they don't come and answer their customer's questions and worries instead they only pop in once and while to answer their fanboi's.
For me i have three accounts, or better i had three accounts. One is canceled already, one got 1 month left and another sadly has got 5 months left and it will go through the changes and then see if its possible to play then.
All while writing this, i knew that CCP are not going to budge a millimeter from their proposed changes as they never have. They should change the Eve Information portal name as "EVE Notice Board" because it just serves as a notice board and whatever notices they give never change and get implemented as such.
Good bye and Good luck with whatever you guys do. One more thing can someone from CCP will care to explain what is the meaning of 40+ pages threads as people don't generally go through all these pages and whatever new threads about these changes are made on other forums are closed and they are told to say their voices in these gigantic threads, is this helpful? if yes then press "Y" else Press "Ctrl + F4" |
AnyOldIron
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 10:57:00 -
[1147]
For all those who say "Upgrade or Die" and "Stop being Cheapskates" I give you these quotes :-
Santa Clara (CA) - DigiTimes is reporting that Intel will delay its upcoming Lynnfield CPU and P55 chipset until the end of August or beginning of September, and possibly later, based on market conditions in the slowing global economy.
and this :-
Santa Clara (CA) - DigiTimes is reporting that Intel will delay making the switchover to DDR3-exclusive products until sometime in 2010. This news comes just two days after learning Asustek and Gigabyte are reportedly sitting on top of a $320 million inventory of unsold DDR2-based 4-series chipsets - stating they hoped Intel would delay the DDR3-exclusive 5-series chipsets to give them time to clear out their existing inventory.
Intel is scheduled to release its 5-series DDR3-based chipset in September, 2009, but the full switch will not take place until 2010 - due to the weakened global economy, a lack of falling DDR3 prices, and lower-than-expected demand for Core i7 on x58.
In addition, AMD is reportedly struggling with its own DDR3-related issues. DigiTimes cites technical difficulties and an inability to achieve stability with the integrated DDR3 memory controller in Socket AM3-based CPUs. According to DigiTimes' sources, AMD will likely not make the transition to DDR3 until they are "able to come out with a workable BIOS."
Doesn`t have a direct bearing on sm2.0 or 3.0 but "Upgrade or Die"
$320 million dollars of OLD stock interesting or NOT ??
|
Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 11:46:00 -
[1148]
Quote: Why? because the normal games face heavy problems with piracy. But if they can strike a deal with a hardware manufacturer, that makes the hardware manufacture pay for large part of the game development, in exchange of making the game a "you are force to buy the new cards of the moment", they will do it. That because hardware cannot be pirated, so you just push your sales from software to hardware in fact and get a more guaranteed return for both parts.
I am so going to sue those evil pirates copying EvE clients, uniquely dongle protected and encrypted 1 by 1. Almost compiled customer per customer.
Quote:
Doesn`t have a direct bearing on sm2.0 or 3.0 but "Upgrade or Die"
$320 million dollars of OLD stock interesting or NOT ??
Could still try reuse that old stock making some stacks to resell for rigs at Jita IMHO.
|
AnyOldIron
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 12:01:00 -
[1149]
To be fair to Kagura Nikon , TWICE she has been misquoted.
She specifically said OUTSIDE the mmo industry piracy was a problem and that`s where the sponsorship first started.
srry Kagura if you were going to answer that yourself but i like FAIR and HONEST debate, like CCP zulupark claims he wants.
|
Erim Solfara
Amarr House of Solfara
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 12:08:00 -
[1150]
CCP need a steam style hardware survey, even if it's based on this website and totally optional. Post up a page somewhere where we can input our current hardware specs, on multiple machines (even if's just a resubmit on the form), and comments on how much we could upgrade, radio buttons from 1 (never afford it) to 5 (I just bought a ú4000 pc, what you talkin' 'bout foo'?).
|
|
Moon Childe
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 12:28:00 -
[1151]
look we know that the WIS update will be "graphicly intensive" so im guessing that this is one of the reasons for the push in Client tech. for the record it's vital that they get the WIS sorted properly because just round the corner there are 3 new space MMO's comming into the fray 2 of them are based on well known IP's...... now i know i hurts now to upgrade (let's face it a lot of us are struggling to live let alone play eve) but in the end if we want to keep playing eve we will have to upgrade hardware.
i feel for CCP because looking at how it stands there stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea. either way they loose subs.
|
AnyOldIron
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 12:34:00 -
[1152]
Very well said Moon Childe, even though I am arguing in the opposite camp. The realities you point out are indeed the real point of this.
I just don`t want to play without corpies or friends , but those are the sad facts of life , if we can`t afford it we should not play.
|
God Johnson
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 12:34:00 -
[1153]
It says 3-5% will have to upgrade their computer when you drop SM2 support. When I play at work, its the company's computer. I can't just ask for an upgrade for EVE, as much as I'd like to.
|
Starnap
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 13:06:00 -
[1154]
Using ATI 9800 here - won't support shader 3 it seems...
Sucks. |
Kira Laren
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 13:10:00 -
[1155]
I don't know if it was suggested already or not, but the whole debate would be unnecessary if CCP would allow skill changing and market (maybe chat) access through a web page, or a software like EVEMon. IT would be possible to do administrative work on older machines, an play on newer ones. I'm sure the majority of people would be satisfied with this. |
Busabus
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 15:44:00 -
[1156]
I like the idea of streamlining the clients, but I can't see it as an option when the premium version doesn't even work yet!
I've got (in my opinion) a high spec PC, but it can't run 2 premium clients because the frame rates drop to single figures and it repeatedly bombs out. Therefore I still run the classic version.
I also use a laptop to log in and do some tasks and I'm not spending thousands to upgrade that to shader 3. |
Raknor
Amarr Ghost Data
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 15:45:00 -
[1157]
The move to SM 2.0 support I can understand as I finally wont be able to play Eve on the machine I started to in 2003. SM 2.0 hardware is gotten to be common. It's the move to SM 3.0 support that has be a bit worried. I've got the low end of the SM 3.0 hardware and am unsure due to economic considerations if I will be able to upgrade it and still keep playing Eve by the end of 2009.
Option one is to give us a Test Applet that renders a loop of video using the most basic settings in a SM 3.0 only engine. That we can test machines and the number of clients your normally run months before the game actually makes the move. Soon the better on this option.
Option two has been asked for for quite a while to have a client that let's people check Eve but not necessarily play Eve. Often my second client is simply open to check market in another region or as a giant chat window that doesn't clutter up the window I'm actually playing on. But there were getting back to supporting yet another client.
Option three and it's the most simple is to hold of on the SM 3.0 upgrade tell the at least the summer patch of 2010. Yes I know it means the Dev's can't push Eve to be as stunning as they want it to be but that would mean that I would only have cut back my drinking from good beer to OK beer in that time to come up with the $ to pay for the upgrade. With a 2009 release I would have to cut back to ****ty beer.
|
Cosmac
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 15:55:00 -
[1158]
Discontinuing support for ShaderModel 2 will prevent me from using my laptop (using Intel GMA 950) to play EVE.
|
Morlok Muktai
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 16:08:00 -
[1159]
Edited by: Morlok Muktai on 19/01/2009 16:11:18 Edited by: Morlok Muktai on 19/01/2009 16:10:50 Desktop running a Radeon X800xt AGP = OK Desktop running a Radeon X1950 AGP = OK Dusty laptop running crappy on board graphics = OK Asus e901 running Intel GMA950 under XP = OK
Move off Shader 2 and I'm stuffed on all but my desktop.. best I set long skills for the many days I travel :(
Can we keep shader 2 for a while longer? |
Mr Sokitumi
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 16:39:00 -
[1160]
Fixes would happen faster so i like that...and i run into people with low grade pc`s all the time but their running 2 -4 accounts and spent all their pc upgrade $ on accounts , i say they can take a month off and upgradeand heres my beef on the eve game i want to pull into the station pick a planet factionised mission if i want and be shuttled to (or) beemed Heeheeehee Skotty , to the planet and run a first person shooter mission like call o duty search and destroy mission for them late nights to wake up a little , maybe set it up so if ya click to go to yer planet miss yer redirected to a dif server for ground based miss....then we cant take all the mature players from World o Warcraft lololol i have friends that are waiting for able to leave ship then theyl come back to eve , i wont leave but im waiting...Kill Da Wabbit Arrrr May The Solar Winds Fill ye Sails |
|
Mr Sokitumi
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 16:57:00 -
[1161]
Sorry forgot my main point ummm i have a asus gaming board w/3.g dualcore processor 2 gigs of ram and a 8800 gts 640mb card and i got to lower my premiem graphix selections some , so id like to know why this nasa pc cant run premiem maxed , and man i feel sorry for so many peeps when this change happends.....wth do i need to upgrade to a terabite graphix card now ... thatll be pricy 2g graphix cards here i come...well after i install 2 more gig stix if that dont cut it what will???????????
|
Lilinane
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 16:59:00 -
[1162]
Originally by: CCP Zulupark
Originally by: Gerome Doutrande Are you also considering laptops when looking a sm 2/3 support? What would be the implications for those when going to sm 2 and especially sm 3? (Imagine a generic remark about laptops selling better than "proper PCs" here.)
We are in fact considering laptops, most new onboard Intel cards support SM2 or SM3 (the GMA series as per here)
This is a true statement, i run two client on my Hp laptop when i am traveling and i travel a lot due to work. I would say that the performance is not the best but they both run on premium (SM3) with not much problem. As a matter of fact i have PvP running two client on my laptop and have kill my opponent. I do believe that is a good deal the changes that Devs are working on. Not only ensure the nice looking of new eden but also ensuring performing is maintain.
|
|
CCP Wrangler
|
Posted - 2009.01.19 17:32:00 -
[1163]
As we have a new blog on the subject, please read it and then post your feedback to it in this forum thread. |
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 30 [39]:: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |