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Rekon X wrote:

Leza Bo ManHater wrote:

Rekon X wrote:

Otrebla Utrigas wrote:

Yeah and WoW grind and leveling is not. XD The only difference is in WoW you character can reach a glass ceiling, while in EVE it is impossible to reach. If you get fed up doing missions, doing PvP (which can be in fleet, small gang,s frig warfare BC fleets etc) or mining, try to improve PI, or explore in a cov ops ship and find devices. Go to WH space, Stay at Jita while you manage Buy and sell orders, hunt for bounties...

In WoW if you get fed up of shooting things with a hunter, there is nothing more you can do with it. You need another character (and more grinding, leveling and farming) just to reach end game with another career path.

Most of wow for me is leveling. I don't grind it out though, I play the game.

Scanning puts me to sleep, i can't scan, move probes in, change range, scan move probes in change range, scan move probes in change range enough to make it worth it. I may get through 2 systems and I'm asleep.
Mining?, i'd rather do fishing in wow, at least I can look at the beach.
Market, not exciting, don't care. Professions in wow.
Missions, omg. I can run quests in wow for weeks, Missions just put me to sleep. What is there 10 of them?

Been in WH systems, scouted 0.0.

I see no point to any of it. Which is probably why I'm on the forums. Bored.

dont take it out on the rest of us because you have absolutely no creative spark or joie de vivre, sounds to me like you have bigger issues and are just trying to pin the blame of them on eve instead of yourself...grow up

Yea, you're right, I have a problem cause I expect a game to be fun. I'm a sicko cause I shouldn't have to pay for a game that I have to create my own entertainment. I have the problem cause I expect developers to provide interesting missions, other than the 10 i've been getting over and over. Especially when Blizzard can create hundreds of quests for each zone.

I hate to break it to you but the lack of creativity is built into the game. So blaming me for the lack of creativity in the game is just LMAO, you have to be retarted.

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Leza Bo ManHater Pyramid Celestial 14	Posted - 2012.04.21 02:13:00 - [391] - Quote Rekon X wrote: Otrebla Utrigas wrote: Yeah and WoW grind and leveling is not. XD The only difference is in WoW you character can reach a glass ceiling, while in EVE it is impossible to reach. If you get fed up doing missions, doing PvP (which can be in fleet, small gang,s frig warfare BC fleets etc) or mining, try to improve PI, or explore in a cov ops ship and find devices. Go to WH space, Stay at Jita while you manage Buy and sell orders, hunt for bounties... In WoW if you get fed up of shooting things with a hunter, there is nothing more you can do with it. You need another character (and more grinding, leveling and farming) just to reach end game with another career path. Most of wow for me is leveling. I don't grind it out though, I play the game. Scanning puts me to sleep, i can't scan, move probes in, change range, scan move probes in change range, scan move probes in change range enough to make it worth it. I may get through 2 systems and I'm asleep. Mining?, i'd rather do fishing in wow, at least I can look at the beach. Market, not exciting, don't care. Professions in wow. Missions, omg. I can run quests in wow for weeks, Missions just put me to sleep. What is there 10 of them? Been in WH systems, scouted 0.0. I see no point to any of it. Which is probably why I'm on the forums. Bored. dont take it out on the rest of us because you have absolutely no creative spark or joie de vivre, sounds to me like you have bigger issues and are just trying to pin the blame of them on eve instead of yourself...grow up
Cpt Dealman Colossus Technologies Project Wildfire 4	Posted - 2012.04.21 02:36:00 - [392] - Quote Leza Bo ManHater wrote: dont take it out on the rest of us because you have absolutely no creative spark or joie de vivre, sounds to me like you have bigger issues and are just trying to pin the blame of them on eve instead of yourself...grow up He does have a point though, I'm a miner myself and even though I enjoy it at sometimes there are more entertaining things to look at. Looking at EVE while mining ice would get me bored very easily, which is why I do other stuff, like planetary interaction or even watch a movie or something. That EVE's in space is cool and all, but nothing other than a few ice asteroids tends to get... "lame". I'd love to see some graphics update for the ice asteroids... And there's no need to tell him to grow up... I've played WoW myself, and IMO the only fun thing was to create alts and level them up. I found the battlegrounds and crafting and all that stuff to be ridiculously boring. I wish MMOs would have a more in-depth crafting system like Star Wars Galaxies had, god that crafting could have me stuck for hours...
Rekon X School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 5	Posted - 2012.04.21 02:43:00 - [393] - Quote Leza Bo ManHater wrote: Rekon X wrote: Otrebla Utrigas wrote: Yeah and WoW grind and leveling is not. XD The only difference is in WoW you character can reach a glass ceiling, while in EVE it is impossible to reach. If you get fed up doing missions, doing PvP (which can be in fleet, small gang,s frig warfare BC fleets etc) or mining, try to improve PI, or explore in a cov ops ship and find devices. Go to WH space, Stay at Jita while you manage Buy and sell orders, hunt for bounties... In WoW if you get fed up of shooting things with a hunter, there is nothing more you can do with it. You need another character (and more grinding, leveling and farming) just to reach end game with another career path. Most of wow for me is leveling. I don't grind it out though, I play the game. Scanning puts me to sleep, i can't scan, move probes in, change range, scan move probes in change range, scan move probes in change range enough to make it worth it. I may get through 2 systems and I'm asleep. Mining?, i'd rather do fishing in wow, at least I can look at the beach. Market, not exciting, don't care. Professions in wow. Missions, omg. I can run quests in wow for weeks, Missions just put me to sleep. What is there 10 of them? Been in WH systems, scouted 0.0. I see no point to any of it. Which is probably why I'm on the forums. Bored. dont take it out on the rest of us because you have absolutely no creative spark or joie de vivre, sounds to me like you have bigger issues and are just trying to pin the blame of them on eve instead of yourself...grow up Yea, you're right, I have a problem cause I expect a game to be fun. I'm a sicko cause I shouldn't have to pay for a game that I have to create my own entertainment. I have the problem cause I expect developers to provide interesting missions, other than the 10 i've been getting over and over. Especially when Blizzard can create hundreds of quests for each zone. I hate to break it to you but the lack of creativity is built into the game. So blaming me for the lack of creativity in the game is just LMAO, you have to be retarted. I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all.
Cpt Dealman Colossus Technologies Project Wildfire 4	Posted - 2012.04.21 02:49:00 - [394] - Quote Rekon X wrote: Yea, you're right, I have a problem cause I expect a game to be fun. I'm a sicko cause I shouldn't have to pay for a game that I have to create my own entertainment. I have the problem cause I expect developers to provide interesting missions, other than the 10 i've been getting over and over. Especially when Blizzard can create hundreds of quests for each zone. I hate to break it to you but the lack of creativity is built into the game. So blaming me for the lack of creativity in the game is just LMAO, you have to be retarted. Either you like it or you don't, it's as simple as that. Since you, yourself already said that you're only hanging around on the forums I assume you've already "quit" EVE. However, because you don't like EVE doesn't mean it's not creative. EVE Online is very creative, people find different things to be fun. I agree with you on mining and missions, the missions are mostly boring because they feel so repetitive and I can't be bothered to read the actual Story behind it. EVE has a whole different mission system as compared to WoW, and it's therefore rather unfair to compare the two - because the games are so different. And the quests in WoW aren't really fun either, it's usually just "Go kill X many of Y." and "Gather this and that". The only thing I find lacking in EVE is to play co-operatively with friends, now I'm a so called "carebear" because I dislike PvP because of the amount of douchebags involved, and it always ends up with people getting mad and blaming others and/or the game. Missions and Complexes in EVE are really boring to do with friends, I know that EVE is mainly a PvP focused game - but there is PvE for a reason, and I'd like to see it get some love.
Leza Bo ManHater Pyramid Celestial 16	Posted - 2012.04.21 02:50:00 - [395] - Quote Rekon X wrote: Leza Bo ManHater wrote: Rekon X wrote: Otrebla Utrigas wrote: Yeah and WoW grind and leveling is not. XD The only difference is in WoW you character can reach a glass ceiling, while in EVE it is impossible to reach. If you get fed up doing missions, doing PvP (which can be in fleet, small gang,s frig warfare BC fleets etc) or mining, try to improve PI, or explore in a cov ops ship and find devices. Go to WH space, Stay at Jita while you manage Buy and sell orders, hunt for bounties... In WoW if you get fed up of shooting things with a hunter, there is nothing more you can do with it. You need another character (and more grinding, leveling and farming) just to reach end game with another career path. Most of wow for me is leveling. I don't grind it out though, I play the game. Scanning puts me to sleep, i can't scan, move probes in, change range, scan move probes in change range, scan move probes in change range enough to make it worth it. I may get through 2 systems and I'm asleep. Mining?, i'd rather do fishing in wow, at least I can look at the beach. Market, not exciting, don't care. Professions in wow. Missions, omg. I can run quests in wow for weeks, Missions just put me to sleep. What is there 10 of them? Been in WH systems, scouted 0.0. I see no point to any of it. Which is probably why I'm on the forums. Bored. dont take it out on the rest of us because you have absolutely no creative spark or joie de vivre, sounds to me like you have bigger issues and are just trying to pin the blame of them on eve instead of yourself...grow up Yea, you're right, I have a problem cause I expect a game to be fun. I'm a sicko cause I shouldn't have to pay for a game that I have to create my own entertainment. I have the problem cause I expect developers to provide interesting missions, other than the 10 i've been getting over and over. Especially when Blizzard can create hundreds of quests for each zone. I hate to break it to you but the lack of creativity is built into the game. So blaming me for the lack of creativity in the game is just LMAO, you have to be retarted. we are not here to entertain you dude, you cant have fun on your own then doesn't mean everybody has to do a song and dance to make you happy, i stand by earlier statement, grow up
Rekon X School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 5	Posted - 2012.04.21 03:35:00 - [396] - Quote Leza Bo ManHater wrote: we are not here to entertain you dude, you cant have fun on your own then doesn't mean everybody has to do a song and dance to make you happy, i stand by earlier statement, grow up So you're a dev then? I guess you are here to entertain me, else wtf is this game for? You're not very good at your job. I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all.
Cpt Dealman Colossus Technologies Project Wildfire 5	Posted - 2012.04.21 04:02:00 - [397] - Quote Rekon X wrote: So you're a dev then? I guess you are here to entertain me, else wtf is this game for? You're not very good at your job. EVE is entertaining and creative, if you don't like it - it's probably not your kind of creativity, maybe you're more into the whole fantasy thing rather than sci-fi, if that's the case - don't hate on EVE or its devs, they're doing a great job and EVE is a great game full of creativity.
Serene Repose Perkone Caldari State 639	Posted - 2012.04.21 04:16:00 - [398] - Quote Success is in the eye of the beholder. If you take a sharp stick and poke out one of your eyes, success would appear to diminish by 50%. The result of that would be the distinct impression things suddenly slid down hill! What's odd about that is, if you added a third eye, success would seem to rise 50%! It's uncanny! Though, I wouldn't suggest it, as three-eyed sunglasses would be very hard to find, so looking cool would be out. Though there's no way to achieve the latter with any real success (as we all know), the former can be more simply achieved by putting a hand over one eye, then looking again! TL;DR? It depends on what you call "success." I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-a
Ma'kal The Imperial Commonwealth Entropy Alliance 6	Posted - 2012.04.21 04:27:00 - [399] - Quote I am grateful that Eve that way it is it is complicated enough to keep me playing for the better part of six years. Plus, niche enough to keep a lot of the super young kids out because they tend to lack the ability to play a game long term. Hopefully Eve keeps it's super sandbox of awesome, because it is the only game I can stand for more than 3 months.
Otrebla Utrigas Space Bastards 9	Posted - 2012.04.21 10:53:00 - [400] - Quote Rekon X wrote: Otrebla Utrigas wrote: Yeah and WoW grind and leveling is not. XD The only difference is in WoW you character can reach a glass ceiling, while in EVE it is impossible to reach. If you get fed up doing missions, doing PvP (which can be in fleet, small gang,s frig warfare BC fleets etc) or mining, try to improve PI, or explore in a cov ops ship and find devices. Go to WH space, Stay at Jita while you manage Buy and sell orders, hunt for bounties... In WoW if you get fed up of shooting things with a hunter, there is nothing more you can do with it. You need another character (and more grinding, leveling and farming) just to reach end game with another career path. Before my first MMO game, i use to play the **** out of Unreal Tournament and Counterstrike. Along with warcraft 1-3, diablo, starcraft, among others. Most of wow for me is leveling. I don't grind it out though, I play the game. Scanning puts me to sleep, i can't scan, move probes in, change range, scan move probes in change range, scan move probes in change range enough to make it worth it. I may get through 2 systems and I'm asleep. Mining?, i'd rather do fishing in wow, at least I can look at the beach. Market, not exciting, don't care. Professions in wow. Missions, omg. I can run quests in wow for weeks, Missions just put me to sleep. What is there 10 of them? Raids, if you've never done them, get a good group and it's great. We'd raid a couple nights during the week, and 3pm to sometimes midnight on saturday. PVP, spent a lot of time doing that. From the time I was lvl 15 in crossroads slinging fireballs through the walls lmao, before there were bg's. Been in WH systems, scouted 0.0. I see no point to any of it. Which is probably why I'm on the forums. Bored. I understand you point really, but for me it happened the same with WoW. I enjoyed my first character (night elf druid) the most, doing new quest everyday, new dungeons, meeting new people, new places all was "WOW look at that" After i reached L85 it begun to be repetitive and boring. Grind your dailies, grind the same dungeons, and tank the same raid monster every week. So I begin with another character (troll hunter) Since the places and quests were different in Azeroth, everything went "Oh good, look at that" I tried to choose quest chains i had not done with the druid. Now, I'm fed up of WoW, I have done most of the quests, and I have been in every corner of Azeroth. Content is the same, I cannot do anything to change it, and I have to wait for Blizzard to introduce new content (and to pay 40Gi< for it) In EvE missions are like quest in WoW, they are all the same, with the difference that you can repeat all the times you want, and in every place missions are different. Main problem in EVE is that you don't wander though the regions because you have to bring with you all your stuff which is costly (no magic bank like in WoW) In EvE crafting is like WoW, repetitive and grinder, BUT, you have more variety, you need to study market, you need to optimize resource production and good production. You need to Think, instead of "skinn some piece of this to make that" In EVE incursions are like Raids. You have a big group of people working as a whole against NPC big Odds, with the differece than you can compete against other people for the price, instead of "I join now, in 3 hours i will have my Epic :D" PvE is the same in both games. The difference is in EVE you don't have guidances, you can do whatever you want to do, you can do it. I can't heal with a hunter in WoW, but i can be a 20 mill SP bounty hunter and train in 2 months to be a planetary improvement player, or a trader, or a miner. Because in EVE what you do depends on what YOU decides to do, not what your class is designed to do. If I want to think, to spend 3 hours coordinating mining ops (scouting, setting safe points, organizing people, looking market for more aprofitable minerals etc) and spend 2 hours shooting rocks in low sec while the guards try to scan the sector, try to pick any possible scout, to defend against small gangs if possible, or just retain them enough for the miners to jump out. Then I play EVE. If i want to have fun for the shake of having fun, i play WoW (which i also enjoy some times) And if I want to feel the rush... I play zerg in starcraft 2 :D TL:DR. PvE content is similar in every MMO; what diferentiates one game from another is the end game and the posibilities offered in the game. You can chose theme parks MMO (which are fun, nobody want to deny that) or you can choose sandbox, where you have to think and create your own fun.

Spectre80 The Knights Templar Intrepid Crossing 62	Posted - 2012.04.21 11:05:00 - [401] - Quote short answer: learning curve, and most people dont like to get abused and ridiculed in game they play for "fun".
Kengutsi Akira Ministry of War Amarr Empire 424	Posted - 2012.04.21 18:51:00 - [402] - Quote to the title, imagine if this was posted by a newb https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99090&find=unread and consider the replies. Ppl dont like it when they get flamed Spectre80 wrote: short answer: learning curve, and most people dont like to get abused and ridiculed in game they play for "fun". Yeah pretty much. The people in this game run off more noobs than anything id bet in before "QQ moar" or "HTFU" or "good we didnt need those subs anyways" https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909 My stance on WiS (updated)
betoli Morior Invictus. KRYSIS. 22	Posted - 2012.04.21 20:33:00 - [403] - Quote blob mechanics poor solo gameplay (see blob mechnics) poor ui lack of love for basics (mining/missioning)
Veronica Kerrigan Hand Of Midas F0RCEFUL ENTRY 23	Posted - 2012.04.22 00:01:00 - [404] - Quote I have to say, I've never understood why people say that you have to buy PLEX in order to PvP. last time I did any serious PvE was some incursion in November or October. I got myself up to about 1.3 billion ISK, and haven't run out yet, and I basically log on for fleet ops, then log back off. Took me one weekend, for almost 6 months of pvp and losing stuff. Just try not to lose a whole lot of ships, fight where you have the advantage, etc. and pvp does not become costly.
Nephilius Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 360	Posted - 2012.04.22 19:45:00 - [405] - Quote Roime wrote: Nephilius wrote: St Mio wrote: Because the masses a) want instant gratification and b) are creatively inept and incapable of building sandcastles. OMG, I laughed so hard when I saw this. Try again, as I've said before, the sand in Eve is more like kitty litter. I think the biggest reason that Eve does not have the numbers that WoW and other games of that caliber have is because there is no point to Eve. There is no established endgame (ships are not endgame). All humans work off of a reward system. If there are no real rewards to be had, except for self-set goals, then there is no reason to become invested in it. Ultimately though, those who love Eve will love it, those who don't will not. All humans do work off of a reward system, I'm just ** all interested in any other goals than those set by myself. We are not lemmings, you know. Ok that doesn't sound quite right, but anyway : D I think some have me wrong here...self-goals is the main attractions which sets Eve apart from the rest. When I play, I live a week or two at a time, sometimes three weeks. And that's cool about it. The pace is set, and can't really be changed. But then again, it can work against it as well, especially if someone sets their goals to be fulfilled at a frenetic pace. To each his onw though, you know? One more thing... Quote:** Go back to WoW I love flying titans in Jita, setting bubbles in Rens,-aor firing off bombs from my stealth bomber-ain Dodixie!-a Just think, if Eve wasn't a sandbox, none of this would be possible!
Dbars Grinding Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 470	Posted - 2012.04.22 20:45:00 - [406] - Quote because it is bad I have more space likes than you.-a
Kengutsi Akira Ministry of War Amarr Empire 427	Posted - 2012.04.22 21:02:00 - [407] - Quote Dbars Grinding wrote: because it is bad scary when noone is denying this O.o https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909 My stance on WiS (updated)
Mars Theran EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance 139	Posted - 2012.04.22 21:05:00 - [408] - Quote Jessie-A Tassik wrote: baltec1 wrote: Jessie-A Tassik wrote: Well, the Null Alliances and Devs have me right where they want me, whatever shall I do? They can do whatever ******** thing they want and I can't stop them. I'm canceling all subscriptions one week into the removal of content that is the Drone Mineral Nerf. You see, I don't have to "Shut up and Mine" if I don't want to. The Devs having the attitude of Corporate Overlords without the gun to back it up is one of Eves biggest problems. You shall be replaced by countless miners. Your loss is not going to keep us awake at night. That attitude exactly. That is what I mean. Oh sure, claiming "People are going to come to Eve to MINE!" is not even insane. Cause no way do you believe that. No way even drooling insane madmen believe that. You wanna know what? CCP might go bankrupt cause they understand nothing about the "market" at all. They have a niche SPACESHIP game for OLDER PLAYERS. They then decide to develop TWO games at once. BAD IDEA. It'd be funny in a freshman business class project. The Dust "Run Forest Run!" is a First Person Shooter targeted at young people. They changed demographics AND game type. Oh boy. And you know what they are going up against? Halo. Call of Duty in it's various incarnations. They are going up against the first team(s) in an area where they have no prior experience. Call of Duty:"Are you a god?" Dust CCP Developers:"I know quite a bit about virtual economies without market orders." Call of Duty:"HA HA HA ! THEN DIE!" That's kinda how it is going to go down. The only thing CCP has going for it is that the idiot head of Activision tried to wildly cheat the Infinity Ward people so they left. Golden Goose is dead. But the zombie corpse is probably to much for CCP to handle. Call of Duty sucks and it isn't even in the same class. As for CCP not knowing anything about marketing and all that, you seem to be underinformed as to their collective educations and experience. And, for that bit about the development of 2 games at once all it requires is organization and people. They have that and they are doing it successfully I might add. Where have you been? edit: I suppose it is more appropriate to say they are working on that, given it wasn't so long ago that they decided they needed to do an internal restructuring, but whatever, it is working now to the best of my knowledge. /edit If you want examples of companies that develop more than one game at a time and show that it can be done, perhaps you should look at EA. How many games are they developing right now? Turn WiS into wIN! ..make all the characters Nude.
Whitehound 175	Posted - 2012.04.22 21:27:00 - [409] - Quote Why is EVE not more successful? Because CCP allows players to post on the forums with only a PLEX. If they would only allow forum access to players who pay and thereby show an active, financial interest in the company might we get a clearer picture of what it is players want and what they are willing to pay for. Just my $.02 *No more crappy expansions!-a Raise A Little Hell* "20 percent of CCP staff fired!" - CEO 'Mr. Nice' Hilmar
Deviant X Screaming War Eagles Incorporated 21	Posted - 2012.04.22 22:10:00 - [410] - Quote The world is made up of sheep. Eve is made for wolves who like to hunt sheep. Since not everybody can be a wolf, Eve is not as popular as other games with lots of rules, guides, or linear expectations.

Sasha Azala Blood and Decay 253	Posted - 2012.04.22 22:14:00 - [411] - Quote Deviant X wrote: The world is made up of sheep. Eve is made for wolves who like to hunt sheep. Since not everybody can be a wolf, Eve is not as popular as other games with lots of rules, guides, or linear expectations. You seem to have a unhealthy obsession with sheep.
Othran Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 175	Posted - 2012.04.22 23:01:00 - [412] - Quote People don't like to lose at MMO video games. They figure they have paid their cash and they should win - or at the very least not "lose". That's the reason most other MMO's are happy-clappy affairs where even if your gang gets wiped out, you don't lose (much, if any) stuff. Also the reason for instancing - people don't like stuff being taken from them in games. That's the reason Eve isn't more successful and more importantly its the reason we ALL play it
Deviant X Screaming War Eagles Incorporated 21	Posted - 2012.04.23 00:08:00 - [413] - Quote Sasha Azala wrote: Deviant X wrote: The world is made up of sheep. Eve is made for wolves who like to hunt sheep. Since not everybody can be a wolf, Eve is not as popular as other games with lots of rules, guides, or linear expectations. You seem to have a unhealthy obsession with sheep. Made me laugh ... +1 like.
Dbars Grinding Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 471	Posted - 2012.04.23 00:34:00 - [414] - Quote its ok guys, get a long training Q ready. D3 is coming, hopefully it will breathe some fresh air into the video game market. I have more space likes than you.-a
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 476	Posted - 2012.04.23 00:41:00 - [415] - Quote Constantly trying to make the game appeal to the general MMO audience at the expense of the niche playerbase that actually supports the game certainly doesn't help.
Kengutsi Akira Ministry of War Amarr Empire 430	Posted - 2012.04.23 00:53:00 - [416] - Quote answer to the title: Because you touch youself! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909 My stance on WiS (updated)
Kengutsi Akira Ministry of War Amarr Empire 430	Posted - 2012.04.23 00:55:00 - [417] - Quote Dbars Grinding wrote: its ok guys, get a long training Q ready. D3 is coming, hopefully it will breathe some fresh air into the video game market. Now THATS a hell of a troll... A Blizzard third sequel "breathing fresh air" lol https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909 My stance on WiS (updated)
Mathias Hex Hillcrest Armaments 109	Posted - 2012.04.23 02:56:00 - [418] - Quote Othran wrote: People don't like to lose at MMO video games. They figure they have paid their cash and they should win - or at the very least not "lose". That's the reason most other MMO's are happy-clappy affairs where even if your gang gets wiped out, you don't lose (much, if any) stuff. Also the reason for instancing - people don't like stuff being taken from them in games. That's the reason Eve isn't more successful and more importantly its the reason we ALL play it Good point, thats probably the coolest aspect of this game. Dbars Grinding wrote: its ok guys, get a long training Q ready. D3 is coming, hopefully it will breathe some fresh air into the video game market. D3 the mighty ducks? There making a game? sweet!!! I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 6232	Posted - 2012.04.23 03:08:00 - [419] - Quote Mathias Hex wrote: Dbars Grinding wrote: its ok guys, get a long training Q ready. D3 is coming, hopefully it will breathe some fresh air into the video game market. D3 the mighty ducks? There making a game? sweet!!! HmmGG* that would actually stand a chance of being something new and fresh, unlike all the other Blizzard IP retreads. GG#If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GkmvGkm you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GG% Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
The Lobsters Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 10	Posted - 2012.04.23 13:17:00 - [420] - Quote Bully Hedro wrote: The reputation at being a troll invested, griefers club probably has a lot to do with it as well. Just look at the forums. Probably the most poorly moderated prepubescent troll invested game forum in the industry. Gives a clue to what the in-game has in store. Fair point, but it has to be said, EVE does have a better class of troll, along with a better class of player.


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