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Modaxis
Gallente Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.17 00:53:00 -
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Edited by: Modaxis on 17/01/2009 00:55:22 Edited by: Modaxis on 17/01/2009 00:54:52
Originally by: Big Ass Goku
About a week ago I was approached by a client who had been run out of the drug business many, many months ago by Es and Whizz, looking to gather intelligence on their operations. Convinced they had far-reaching influence, secrecy and caution were of utmost importance - after all, according to the client, they controlled the entirety of the drug business, had defensive agreements with every major alliance in the game, and were, essentially, omnipotent. Already something didn't feel right. People exaggerate, often outright lie, about their abilities and the reach of their influence, and this sound exactly like one of those cases.
After learning about how drug manufacturing works, I scouted the 8 COSMOS constellations throughout the game, looking for their towers, or altcorps, or any signs of activity indicative of drug manufacturing. The only place I found any was in Fountain, Catch, and a very, very insignificant number in BoB space.
None of this made sense. In Fountain, Hedonistic Imperitive (Es and Whizz's alliance, short: RELAX) had an obscene amount of control towers - 11 large faction towers and 3 normal ones for system jamming. They had all sorts of manufacturing and gas-related equipment, but how could they be offering all the different drugs they do without having access to these other areas? After posing as a buyer, we discovered that they, indeed, do not sell everything - in fact, they only sell two types. How, then, could they have made all this money and driven so many of their smaller competitors out of business?
This is when I asked Kug to take a look. What he found went beyond anything I could have ever expected. When Evoke and MH got busted, it was easy for them to deny responsibility, writing it off as "a few rogue members" acting on their own. RELAX, on the other-hand, have been running their drug business, quite literally, as a front for their ferrogel-exploiting, and their leadership not only knew it, they were the ones that were doing it.
Originally by: Originally posted by Masudi When Striker first found that bug, me and Conan debated it for a while whether to use or not. What with us both at that time loosing billions in assets due to the npc drug nerf, the recent t20 scandal and him apparently getting away with it we with some trepedation but a bit of a "**** you" attitude towards CCP went ahead with it, with conan and striker running the show, and then me recieving dividends from my investments, though proportionally a lot less, as wasn't involved in any of the operations.
Greed, plain and simple. What is even more unbelievable, though, is how indignant they act, threatening to "mass petition" to get their CEO unbanned, despite him knowingly financing his little empire with tainted isk for who knows how long.
This was the big, pink elephant in the room no one wanted to talk about, but everyone avoided making eye-contact with. If I was capable of seeing that their business model wasn't profitable from the outside, you would be naive or foolish to think that those inside the corp had no idea what was going on.
Expect the prices of drugs to go up as Es and Whizz finally collapse under the burden of their fiscally insolvent business model. Prices will probably stabilize and subsequently drop after the competition they ran out of town come back and begin selling on a even, competitive playing field. Es and Whizz will no longer be able to sell at a loss because someone has "secret" reactors allowing them to take a hit to gain a customer.
Originally by: Dr. Fat Whisker's, as the client wishes to be known You know the best part? No one would have ever cared about Es and Whizz if they hadn't pushed my tiny corp out of business. Small business wins again!
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Bane Glorious
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.17 00:55:00 -
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tupac ain't dead |
RoyofCA
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.17 00:57:00 -
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Es and Whizz deserves everything that is happening to them now.
Die in a fire, you pieces of ****.
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Viper ShizzIe
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.17 00:58:00 -
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Zarthanon
Gallente S.A.S Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.17 01:28:00 -
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I, too, am WShatner.
I like pie. |
Modaxis
Gallente Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.17 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: Modaxis on 17/01/2009 01:30:43 IF you have bought boosters at a discount or received free boosters from us in exchange of some services or rent. I suggest you petition ASAP before the dirty isk trails lead to your account!
I feel as if I have been participating in fraud. I am disappointed with my CEO. We were trying to petition so that we could take over the shares and CEOship as right now the Es and Whizz is completely frozen.
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Lasakywa
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.01.17 01:31:00 -
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Well, we waited for this for moar than 48 hours now
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Abduul Azeez
Caldari THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.01.17 01:32:00 -
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Locked.
Please continue the discussion in the official thread.
Thank you.
Abduul Azeez Junior Troll THE INTERNET
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Dinique
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.17 01:37:00 -
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Good day, friends.
_____ The species has amused itself to death
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Modaxis
Gallente Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.17 01:38:00 -
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Not everyone got busted:
[09:47:32] Koi Yokuma > no word, still investigating [09:47:36] Koi Yokuma > as of 2 days ago [09:47:50] Kabal Reinard > cool , u have newer info than i [09:48:03] Kabal Reinard > i been afk from family holidays [09:48:04] Cherybol > wouldn't be suprised if they were watching us all, I know Brutt got towers taken down aswell. [09:48:16] Kabal Reinard > such a bum rap [09:48:25] Koi Yokuma > yeah [09:48:26] Yokan Daifuku > chery, brutenn? [09:48:37] Koi Yokuma > speaking of which, I never want any isk from the corp or alliance [09:48:39] Koi Yokuma > lol [09:48:41] Kabal Reinard > i didnt know that [09:48:50] Cherybol > yeah, but afaik they just asked him if he was m
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No Homo
Gallente THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.01.17 01:43:00 -
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oh **** i gotta stock up on boosters....
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Djan Anaplian
Gallente Chavs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.01.17 01:44:00 -
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rofl. I am a raving homosexual. |
Faife
Minmatar Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.17 02:18:00 -
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this really isn't threadnoughting very well
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leboe
Gallente Dark Star Cartel Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2009.01.17 02:19:00 -
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Edited by: leboe on 17/01/2009 02:20:25 edit nvm
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Moon Kitten
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.17 02:23:00 -
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My mind is blown!
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The Mittani
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.17 02:38:00 -
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i am v. angry about this issue!
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Koi Yokuma
Gallente Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.17 03:10:00 -
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Look Mom, I'm on CAOD!
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Onionico
Gallente Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.17 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: RoyofCA Es and Whizz deserves everything that is happening to them now.
Die in a fire, you pieces of ****.
People of Relax! CCP has lied to you!
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Kabal Reinard
Amarr Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.17 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Onionico
Originally by: RoyofCA Es and Whizz deserves everything that is happening to them now.
Die in a fire, you pieces of ****.
People of Relax! CCP has lied to you!
Well I wouldnt go that far.
As to being angry, well I'm not. I never made any isk in this game cept for legit trade in slow market game or quick isk delivering boosters (and npc agent narcotics back when we were the original smuggler corp for those grinding missions in 0.0).
I'm sure I'll have more to say as I realise the scope of this but as a Director and longstanding member in Whizz all I can say now is: "Yay Drugs."
That will be our last priority as it was always our 1st. |
Jasper Grimpkin
Gallente Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.17 04:09:00 -
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Edited by: Jasper Grimpkin on 17/01/2009 04:15:30
Originally by: Modaxis This was the big, pink elephant in the room no one wanted to talk about, but everyone avoided making eye-contact with.
you went and took the blue pill didn't you?
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Babbette
Gallente Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.17 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Modaxis
After posing as a buyer, we discovered that they, indeed, do not sell everything - in fact, they only sell two types.
All standard boosters (most improved and some strong) are in stock as I write this though we're a little short on drop atm. Hurry and get yours before their gone via the "narcotics" channel for most all your booster needs.
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xxArchangelxx
Caldari Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.17 05:43:00 -
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Edited by: xxArchangelxx on 17/01/2009 05:47:20
Quote: IF you have bought boosters at a discount or received free boosters from us in exchange of some services or rent.
The first one is always free ..............
Quote: I feel as if I have been participating in fraud.
We are drug dealers and your worried about fraud ......
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DamienUPB
Caldari Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.17 06:02:00 -
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Edited by: DamienUPB on 17/01/2009 06:16:52 Please keep the cameras out of this one. We don't want anymore incidents such as the alliance tournament.
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Camperific
Minmatar Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.17 07:01:00 -
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Sweet..Free publicity
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Cherybol
Caldari Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.17 08:08:00 -
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Koi, am I famous yet?
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Jelek Coro
Caldari Art of War Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.01.17 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Modaxis Edited by: Modaxis on 17/01/2009 01:30:43 IF you have bought boosters at a discount or received free boosters from us in exchange of some services or rent. I suggest you petition ASAP before the dirty isk trails lead to your account!
I feel as if I have been participating in fraud. I am disappointed with my CEO. We were trying to petition so that we could take over the shares and CEOship as right now the Es and Whizz is completely frozen.
On reflection, it shows what complete failures Hednonistic are. It comes down to the fact they are like other carebears who manufacture things below cost.
The only difference being that the loss was covered by dupped ferrogal sales, AND they paid proection of 5billion isk to PL to live in Fountain.
I hope PL kick their arses out of Fountain now and that they have all of their big assets confiscated.
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Cherybol
Caldari Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.17 09:25:00 -
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Hi Amarria.
Wait, your accusing us of buying our assets with dirty money?
And now your petitioning to get shares and CEO position to unfreeze and take all the assets?
You want our assets. That were bought. With isk. From an exploit?
Lol @ your logic.
Oh wait? Modaxis has been inactive and hasn't logged in since 2007?
Lol @ your credibility.
Also, our agreement with PL is that we provide them with discounted boosters in return for free rent in their space. So as for your we pay PL 5 bil to protect us? Rofl at that aswell. If anything PL lets us do our thing, and we have recently volunteered to help them with the hostiles in Fountain as of recent.
So really, afaik mate, we aren't paying anyone but ourselves for protection. Feel free to correct me.
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Cherybol
Caldari Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.17 09:30:00 -
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Edited by: Cherybol on 17/01/2009 09:30:50 Also mate, none of our assets we're taken away from us.
We're still kickin out boosters, delivering them to customers, getting bombed, and just doing what we do.
I don't know who the hell your getting your information from. You should go ask them for a refund because your getting robbed. |
Jelek Coro
Caldari Art of War Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.01.17 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Cherybol Edited by: Cherybol on 17/01/2009 09:30:50 Also mate, none of our assets we're taken away from us.
We're still kickin out boosters, delivering them to customers, getting bombed, and just doing what we do.
I don't know who the hell your getting your information from. You should go ask them for a refund because your getting robbed.
Your corp should of be closed and all corp assets taken away. You got off lightly compared to Evoke.
You are still a bunch of failures though.
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Babel
Minmatar Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.17 11:06:00 -
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Nice to hear Modaxis is now back in original owners hands - altho removing the OP means I have to imagine what was said :(
I wonder if there's any bitter folks in this thread that could be likely candidates for the hack ? :D Or maybe i should, in the words of the wise, "Go buy a tinfoil hat and sit in the corner drooling" ?
1/10 for trying to dramabomb about bannable exploits by using a bannable exploit - you might want to put some cream on that gunshot wound just below yr ankle ....
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