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Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
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Posted - 2012.04.18 08:26:00 -
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Quote:Sony Computer EntertainmentGÇÖs next-generation video game system is reportedly code-named Orbis and is projected to be very powerful. But the new console, which is expected to be out in 2013, will not play currently available games and will lose compatibility with used games in general.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20120328153153_Sony_PlayStation_4_to_Drop_Compatibility_with_PlayStation_3_Used_Games_Report.html
Just curious. Dust implications?
Does this mean there will be a port or DUST will be a PS4 exclusive? EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.18 08:28:00 -
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DUST will soon be its own intelligence!
/c
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Anderron Shi
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.04.18 08:34:00 -
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Wrong forum section. Get some! |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation
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Posted - 2012.04.18 08:50:00 -
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simples.... Dust 2.0 - Nulla Curas |
St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.18 08:54:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:simples.... Dust 2.0 You mean Dust 1028, right? |
malaire
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:05:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:Quote:... will not play currently available games ...
Fortunately, Dust 514 is not currently available.
And this has been talked so many times. CCP can just port Dust to PS4 and you download that for free just as for PS3. New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:13:00 -
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malaire wrote:Graic Gabtar wrote:Quote:... will not play currently available games ...
Fortunately, Dust 514 is not currently available. And this has been talked so many times. CCP can just port Dust to PS4 and you download that for free just as for PS3.
Using Carbon technology with destructible environments. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
gfldex
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:17:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:Dust implications?
Somebody in Shanghai will have to tell the build environment that the target is now a PS4. Nothing to see here, move along!
When someone burns down your sandcaste, bring sausages. |
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:23:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Graic Gabtar wrote:Dust implications? Somebody in Shanghai will have to tell the build environment that the target is now a PS4. Nothing to see here, move along! Makes sense.
So does that mean a crap looking game on a next gen platform then? EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita. |
Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:27:00 -
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Dust = a few months away PS3 = a few years away...
I dont see the relevance to the PS4 and dust |
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gfldex
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:30:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:So does that mean a crap looking game on a next gen platform then?
Not necessarily. If they have high detail models in Maya/3DS/Whatever they can export them with high details. If you watch the trailer from the fanfest you can see those high details. If it makes sense to do so for a game that is watched from 4m away is a different question.
But why do you care? It's a console FPS and as such pointless to start with.
When someone burns down your sandcaste, bring sausages. |
Logan LaMort
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:36:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:gfldex wrote:Graic Gabtar wrote:Dust implications? Somebody in Shanghai will have to tell the build environment that the target is now a PS4. Nothing to see here, move along! Makes sense. So does that mean a crap looking game on a next gen platform then?
The graphics will get upgraded too, the same as EVE. |
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:36:00 -
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gfldex wrote:But why do you care? It's a console FPS and as such pointless to start with. Just curious about how Sony are going to FUBAR EVE to be honest.
And yes, it's a console FPS and I'll never get to play it.
Nothing against consoles, but my kids play consoles.
EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita. |
Melyor Le'line
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:36:00 -
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It definitely implies Sony doesn't learn from past mistakes. Anybody surprised? |
Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:38:00 -
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Rumor has it that the Orbis (PS4) wont be backwards compatible anyways so you wont be able to play Dust on it since its a PS3 game, so unless CCP make a new Dust with a new engine to up the graphics and the rumor is true. pointless discussion. |
D3F4ULT
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:47:00 -
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Dust will be future proof. It's digitally distributed on the PSN for free. They will upgrade it to PS4.
Do a little ******* research before posting the exact same thing everyone else posts. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |
Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
80
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:51:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:Dust will be future proof. It's digitally distributed on the PSN for free. They will upgrade it to PS4.
Do a little ******* research before posting the exact same thing everyone else posts.
Confirming that this guy hasnt a breeze on how coding games works. |
Sobach
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:52:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:Dust will be future proof. It's digitally distributed on the PSN for free. They will upgrade it to PS4.
Do a little ******* research before posting the exact same thing everyone else posts.
I don't know why you expect people on the forums to be reasonable and use their intelligence and do due diligence. |
D3F4ULT
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:54:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:D3F4ULT wrote:Dust will be future proof. It's digitally distributed on the PSN for free. They will upgrade it to PS4.
Do a little ******* research before posting the exact same thing everyone else posts. Confirming that this guy hasnt a breeze on how coding games works. "PS4 is out? well thats ok lets just press this button that will magically upgrade the Dust game to better graphics and mechanics, rather than spending months or years designing the new graphics engine that would be needed." Oh wait...
Oh I'm sorry, I though we were talking about the one game company that took a 2003 game and upgraded it constantly to 2012 standards. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |
Aethlyn
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:54:00 -
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You're misunderstanding game development. Today's consoles are far more similar to a classic PC than they were back in the days (e.g. NES/SNES). Once the PS4 is out, all they have to do is switch some toggles, do some minor adjustments (in case stuff changes or they did some things in a non-portable way) and they're ready to go. Ever wondered how games like Skyrim are released on PC, Xbox360 and PS3? No, they don't develop three different games looking the same and playing the same. They're the same game ported to the other platform(s). Depending on your base (e.g. the engine) this can be as much as just switching a toggle or doing some more adjustments (as mentioned above).
So far: Don't worry, especially considering the game is going to be completely free to play. They'd be dumb hyping a game with such potential and then dropping it after only 1 or 2 years with no replacement just due to a new console.
Also, lacking backwards compatibility is something not really new to console stuff either. It's been the standard back in the days when consoles used cartridges, with some exceptions due to special adapters being released (e.g. Nintendo's Super GameBoy for the SNES). Looking for more thoughts? Read my blog or follow me on Twitter. |
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Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:56:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:D3F4ULT wrote:Dust will be future proof. It's digitally distributed on the PSN for free. They will upgrade it to PS4.
Do a little ******* research before posting the exact same thing everyone else posts. Confirming that this guy hasnt a breeze on how coding games works. "PS4 is out? well thats ok lets just press this button that will magically upgrade the Dust game to better graphics and mechanics, rather than spending months or years designing the new graphics engine that would be needed." Oh wait... Oh I'm sorry, I though we were talking about the one game company that took a 2003 game and upgraded it constantly to 2012 standards.
Lol speaking about that research you were talking about. do some reasearch on SOE and how they handle online games, aka how they ruin them. |
D3F4ULT
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:58:00 -
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Aethlyn wrote:You're misunderstanding game development. Today's consoles are far more similar to a classic PC than they were back in the days (e.g. NES/SNES). Once the PS4 is out, all they have to do is switch some toggles, do some minor adjustments (in case stuff changes or they did some things in a non-portable way) and they're ready to go. Ever wondered how games like Skyrim are released on PC, Xbox360 and PS3? No, they don't develop three different games looking the same and playing the same. They're the same game ported to the other platform(s). Depending on your base (e.g. the engine) this can be as much as just switching a toggle or doing some more adjustments (as mentioned above).
So far: Don't worry, especially considering the game is going to be completely free to play. They'd be dumb hyping a game with such potential and then dropping it after only 1 or 2 years with no replacement just due to a new console.
Also, lacking backwards compatibility is something not really new to console stuff either. It's been the standard back in the days when consoles used cartridges, with some exceptions due to special adapters being released (e.g. Nintendo's Super GameBoy for the SNES).
Thank God someone on this forum understands a little bit of game development in recent years.
Hell we have Bomberman, Joust, and other games on the PS3 that play identically to the original. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |
Sobach
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2012.04.18 09:58:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:Lol speaking about that research you were talking about. do some reasearch on SOE Entertainment and how they handle online games, aka how they ruin them.
you realize he's talking about CCP right?
also, SOE isn't making Dust either, you know that right?
right?
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D3F4ULT
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Posted - 2012.04.18 10:00:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:D3F4ULT wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:D3F4ULT wrote:Dust will be future proof. It's digitally distributed on the PSN for free. They will upgrade it to PS4.
Do a little ******* research before posting the exact same thing everyone else posts. Confirming that this guy hasnt a breeze on how coding games works. "PS4 is out? well thats ok lets just press this button that will magically upgrade the Dust game to better graphics and mechanics, rather than spending months or years designing the new graphics engine that would be needed." Oh wait... Oh I'm sorry, I though we were talking about the one game company that took a 2003 game and upgraded it constantly to 2012 standards. Lol speaking about that research you were talking about. do some reasearch on SOE and how they handle online games, aka how they ruin them.
Completely avoids my point and are we forgetting the fact that CCP has full control over its servers and such by being connected to their database that run EVE? Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |
Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
80
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Posted - 2012.04.18 10:01:00 -
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Yes i realise that but SOE didnt make those other games either, but they took them over in the long run.
I edited my original post earlier to say that if you meant just porting it over then i retract my sarcastic responce. You must not of seen it. |
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
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Posted - 2012.04.18 10:04:00 -
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Aethlyn wrote:You're misunderstanding game development. Today's consoles are far more similar to a classic PC than they were back in the days (e.g. NES/SNES). Once the PS4 is out, all they have to do is switch some toggles, do some minor adjustments (in case stuff changes or they did some things in a non-portable way) and they're ready to go. Ever wondered how games like Skyrim are released on PC, Xbox360 and PS3? No, they don't develop three different games looking the same and playing the same. They're the same game ported to the other platform(s). Depending on your base (e.g. the engine) this can be as much as just switching a toggle or doing some more adjustments (as mentioned above).
So far: Don't worry, especially considering the game is going to be completely free to play. They'd be dumb hyping a game with such potential and then dropping it after only 1 or 2 years with no replacement just due to a new console.
Also, lacking backwards compatibility is something not really new to console stuff either. It's been the standard back in the days when consoles used cartridges, with some exceptions due to special adapters being released (e.g. Nintendo's Super GameBoy for the SNES). Yeah that's ace and all but DUST will have constraints on PS4 based on PS3 capability no?
That's different to saying it's multiplatform.
At the moment you can run EVE on a baseline PC and go nuts after that with regards to grunt.
A PS3 will never be a PS4 so besides some eye candy the PS4 game will only ever be as good as the PS3 version.
For example, the PS4 might be able to do a 128 player map, but it will be 32 until they dump PS3.
If so, what's the point doing PS3? EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita. |
Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.04.18 10:06:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:Just curious about how Sony are going to FUBAR EVE to be honest.
I struggle to believe that Sony will take what is, in essence a very innovative title and shoot it in the foot like that. If CCP Shanghai and Sony does not have some plan in-place to take advantage of the PS4 when it becomes available I'd be very surprised.
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D3F4ULT
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Posted - 2012.04.18 10:07:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:Yes i realise that but SOE didnt make those other games either, but they took them over in the long run.
I edited my original post earlier to say that if you meant just porting it over then i retract my sarcastic responce. You must not of seen it.
I took it to mean that they were to easily upgrade the graphics to PS4 without creating a new engine for it. Which is stupid.. Porting is another thing.
Alright and I will implement my sarcasm.
CCP - "Lets make a console game, on a console that will last only about 4-6 years that only has a couple years left on its life span, and lets make it interact with our 9 year old game in a gameplay changing way.
Then, when the next console comes out, we say, 'damn... didn't see that coming'."
So I conclude with hurf a durf a dur. Doesn't take much logic to understand that the game will be upgraded to PS4 standards. Take a little time to make some correlations and quit poking at ******** statements such as, "omg no backwards comparability." Also, your statement about SOE is a complete logical fallacy.
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Who says they won't upgrade it? They've upgraded the engine for EVE, why not DUST 514? There's aboslutely nothing that is going to hold back this game from being upgraded for the PS4. SONY releases the dev kits needed to make games for the PS4 before the PS4 even comes out. Of course CCP is going to work on this, otherwise it would just be completely irrelevant to make this game coexist with EVE Online. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |
discordigant
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2012.04.18 10:09:00 -
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Dear god that has to be the single most ugliest controller i have ever seen. |
TC wabbajack
Prosperity Through Violence Unprovoked Aggression
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Posted - 2012.04.18 10:12:00 -
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because obviously the free to play client you need to play dust will need to be backwards compatible so it can communicate with the server where the matches are taking place. |
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