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Glassback
Body Count Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.19 17:46:00 -
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I need your help.
I want to train for a new career and need some advice/tips/information.
Basically, I recon I have 2 years to train towards becoming "something", the problem is I don't know what! My background is Sales/business development, I am 36, male, live in the UK.
What I want to find out from you is what sort of things are out there to train for. What do you do? What would you recommend?
In my head it goes something like this:-
"train for XXX, get job doing XXX, keep learning (this is important as I get bored easily, also so I can increase me earnings)"
Money wise, I would need a starting salary circa 25k, with propects to 45k.
I know im being vague, but want to keep it open.
Cheers!
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David Kang
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Posted - 2009.01.19 18:13:00 -
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Firstly check the job offers going in your local area.
Papers, On-line and job centres look at the jobs been offered.
Make a note, are there a large number of electricians wanted? what about engineers?
whoa huge gap of office workers need to be filled (typists etc)
Do not train for something if you haven't checked the job market or your going to be royally screwed when you have to move to get your dream job, travel loads or there isn't a job full stop for your chosen studies.
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Elysarian
Minmatar dudetruck corp
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Posted - 2009.01.19 19:07:00 -
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ú25k is a lot for a starting salary if you're wanting to retrain into a new career path entirely - I'd lower your expectations there unless you live in Central London.
of course if you mean "take two years out to spend retraining" then get a job you'll have a slightly better chance of getting what you're aiming for.
most "trades" (Electrician, Plumber, Gas Fitter etc) need at least two years, preferably 3 of a combination of classroom work and on-the-job training to get anywhere.
I'm an electronic engineer myself and went to college part-time for 3 years while working for a pittance (YTS, you're the same age as me so should remember them) |
Glassback
Body Count Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.19 19:32:00 -
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Edited by: Glassback on 19/01/2009 19:32:04 Yeh, I am checking the market out, but there are jobs out there that are never advertised and I am hoping for inspiration.
Yes, 2 years solid study is doable and I live near London
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Sir Substance
Minmatar MagiTech Alliance Inc. MagiTech Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.20 09:35:00 -
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had you been in aus, i would have said go do a tafe course for something related to the mining industry. thats where the quick (but dirty) money is in aus. in the UK? i donno.
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Irulan S'Dijana
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.20 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Substance had you been in aus, i would have said go do a tafe course for something related to the mining industry. thats where the quick (but dirty) money is in aus. in the UK? i donno.
Not so much now with the economy as it is, but skilled stuff like mining engineers are always needed. The cool jobs like driving a truck for 100k a year are a bit harder to come by.
Bleugh...in hindsight maybe..just maybe I should have taken a year off between high school and uni to work for a year in the mining industry. Lots of people have taken a couple years off during the boom to work there and come back to buy a house while doing their Uni degrees. Not exactly the penniless student =P
- Nobody gets rich in this business. You simply obtain new levels of relative poverty. |
Glassback
Body Count Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 12:28:00 -
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Well results of soul searching and general chats so far...
I enjoy learning about and using new systems. For example:- 1. Start new job 2. Learn new software 3. Use new software
So, are there any IT jobs that these skills would be transferable? Some suggestions I have had are getting into Cisco or Security stuff, firewalls etc.
As there may be a few IT people here, what would you suggest? |
Reven Cordelle
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.20 12:45:00 -
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Just join the Military Police.
You rake in about 25k after you've finished god knows how many months of training.. its apparently interesting and most of all - its probably the only way of obtaining and firing a weapon at someone in the UK.
Good times. |
jason hill
Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.20 13:06:00 -
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what about the pron industry.....lotsa skies to be made there yar knar |
Mikal Drey
Minmatar Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.20 13:17:00 -
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hey hey
Copper : On commencing service ú21,534 On completion of initial training ú24,039 2 ú25,434 (2yrs Service) 3 ú26,988 4 ú27,838 5 ú28,731 6 ú29,550 7 ú30,282 8 ú31,251 9 ú33,141 10 ú33,810
Armed Forces : Various Pay scales and a wide range of Military careers available. They are always recruiting. Army Jobs
London Transport : Trains
The Railway in general is also a huge employer with a wide range of skilled and unskilled positions from Signallers to P-Way staff there is alot to choose from
Tube - 40k
Bus - average salary last year for a bus driver was ú18k
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.01.20 13:37:00 -
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Do you have any training or qualifications already? At 36, you've got a few years experience under your belt and it will be difficult to get a crappy job. Really you need to consider a few things:
Job, or career?
What field interests you? What are you good at?
Can you make use of your existing experience and/or skills?
If you don't mind me asking, what qualifications do you have already? If you have anything up to A Levels/HND you could consider a Bachelors degree. If you have a bachelors, you could consider a Masters, at a university or via OU. If you don't fancy returning to the world of academia, there are professional qualifications as varied as the subjects you can get them in.
With the current economic climate, government and non-profit organisations are safer bets as job security is mostly unaffected. The commercial/corporate world is in turmoil with lay offs and company closures everywhere (in the UK already we've lost Woolies, Bradford & Bingley, Wedgewood, Zavvi and (almost) MFI). For govmt organisations you could consider middle management as a starting place. The police offer great pensions and career progression, you could use your existing experience and you get trained by them.
If you're keen to brave the commercial world there are also varied paths you could take. If you speak a language, cabin crew for an airline would be interesting and pay well, but would mean you don't see your partner/kids so often. A language could also open up possibilities with the foriegn office. For a cool twist, what about MI6? Teaching is also a possibility, and with your skills, you could probably easily pursue a career in teaching business or economics. The government will pay for your PGCE training.
As a general rule of thumb, < ú28-30k p/a you will need a broader set of general skills, while above you would be expected to have a higher understanding of fewer. That's certainly the case in IT. If you'd consider a career in technology, you should decide first of all whether or not to concentrate on something specific. Most companies expect tech or support staff to be ready from the get go and offer little by way of training (not true for all by any means). If this field interests you I would recommend getting the basic qualification by a company like Microsoft (if you'd prefer to work with clients and servers and other 'front end' stuff), Cisco (if you enjoy networking, routing, data security) or learn Oracle or SQL and get into database management (a lot of money to be made there, but very tough).
There are many fields in the IT industry though, that could also encompass web hosting, web design/development, programmer, support, etc. Your answers to the above questions will really help us give better answers, and you finding something you could work at and enjoy. -------------
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