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ma perke
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.18 12:04:00 -
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so how often an anomalie will escalate or will give you faction spawn?
I have done more than 40 forsaken hubs in -0.9 system and got only one dread gurista spawn and one escalation. Is that normal? |
Ender Black
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
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Posted - 2012.04.18 13:08:00 -
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Random is random. YMMV.
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Malamber
Nordic Innovations BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2012.04.18 14:57:00 -
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Didn't think anoms escalated? Though I know factions spawns are rare as hell (and always seem to drop ammo + tags only lol). |
Tabernack en Chasteaux
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.18 15:54:00 -
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Malamber wrote:Didn't think anoms escalated? Though I know factions spawns are rare as hell (and always seem to drop ammo + tags only lol).
Some anoms escalate, some don't. Even for the ones that do, the chance is very, very small. I believe faction spawns are a bit more frequent, but not very. And you're right, more often than not they just drop ammo & tags ;) |
Megnamon
HOMELE55 Double Tap.
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Posted - 2012.04.18 18:47:00 -
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I have been having the same luck lately with anomolies. I just keep thinking that means I will have a heck of a lucky streak here soon |
Raziel Walker
Grey Templars Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2012.04.20 12:11:00 -
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I got 3 faction spawns doing about 40 forlorn hubs, which struck me as being lucky (drops were 1k DG heavy missiles x2 and 1 DG explosive shield hardener, so less lucky in that regard). When I farmed haven/sanctum as a United Front Alliance renter (around the time of the nerf, not sure if it was before or after, I never got one faction spawn as far as I can remember.) Never once got an escalation.
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Zahhadune
Virtual Warriors IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2012.04.20 13:24:00 -
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I guess luck is on my side, I should have played the mega millions.
The other day with 5 anoms I got 2 escalations and 1 faction spawn.
My theory is that is has more to do with the difficulty of the anom type. Heres an example:
Angel Hub= .005% chance
Forsaken Angel hub = .01% chance
Has anyone noticed this? |
Megnamon
HOMELE55 Double Tap.
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Posted - 2012.04.20 13:26:00 -
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It does seem that the Hidden, Forlorn, and Forsaken sites have faction spawns than the run of the mill anoms... |
Sir Livingston
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.20 21:11:00 -
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ma perke wrote:so how often an anomalie will escalate or will give you faction spawn?
Every time a young pilot says 'I don't believe in faction spawns,' there's a a little faction spawn somewhere that falls down dead.
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Ank Parkor
WildSpace Otters
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Posted - 2012.04.21 09:53:00 -
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I would say 1/10 for the faction spawn, I have seen a lot of them, as well as their precious implants. Escalation never.
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nahjustwarpin
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.21 14:35:00 -
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had 2 mazes from fornlorn hubs (i think it was 100) and i think 1 or 2 faction |
Thurken
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.29 01:47:00 -
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ma perke wrote:so how often an anomalie will escalate or will give you faction spawn?
I have done more than 40 forsaken hubs in -0.9 system and got only one dread gurista spawn and one escalation. Is that normal?
For high sec Anomalies I can tell you from experience, yet faction spawn 1-2 out of 20 anomalies for a commander spawn Escalation 1 of 100+
So I think the numbers could better for lower sec systems, especially with Escalations where are great rewards to find ;) Can anyone confirm this?
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Beliandra
Elgoi Developments Inc.
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Posted - 2012.04.29 12:22:00 -
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Ank Parkor wrote:I would say 1/10 for the faction spawn, I have seen a lot of them, as well as their precious implants. Escalation never. Sounds about right to me. I reckon I've seen about 10 faction spawns in 100 complexes. Never seen an escalation - maybe they exist, maybe the wiki is just trolling me.
Edit: that's in high sec - maybe it's better lower down |
nahjustwarpin
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.29 14:29:00 -
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Beliandra wrote:Ank Parkor wrote:I would say 1/10 for the faction spawn, I have seen a lot of them, as well as their precious implants. Escalation never. Sounds about right to me. I reckon I've seen about 10 faction spawns in 100 complexes. Never seen an escalation - maybe they exist, maybe the wiki is just trolling me. Edit: that's in high sec - maybe it's better lower down
well ofcourse it's better. and let's not compare battleship faction spawns to frigates factions |
Kaanchana
Rocket Rajas
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Posted - 2012.04.30 03:55:00 -
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Both are definitely random.
But from my experience, one in 8 to 10 sanctums escalate to a 10/10. Faction spawns are quite random, around one in 6 to 10 sanctums. Lesser anoms are less likely to have a faction spawn or esc. Anyway, faction spawns are getting crappier now, about 3 out of 5 are worthless. Escalations, on the other hand, are ok for their time vs isk reward. |
Beliandra
Elgoi Developments Inc.
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Posted - 2012.04.30 11:15:00 -
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nahjustwarpin wrote:Beliandra wrote:Sounds about right to me. I reckon I've seen about 10 faction spawns in 100 complexes. Never seen an escalation - maybe they exist, maybe the wiki is just trolling me.
Edit: that's in high sec - maybe it's better lower down well ofcourse it's better. and let's not compare battleship faction spawns to frigates factions Obviously the quality is better lower down. But I meant "maybe" to the quantity. Is it still ballpark of 1 in 10 of a faction battleship in nullsec? Or is it maybe more common? |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2012.04.30 21:34:00 -
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Normal in that trying to accurately gage or predict something random is seemingly impossible? Sure, that's normal. |
XXSketchxx
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.05.01 01:45:00 -
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The anecdotal evidence in this thread is adorable. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.01 19:50:00 -
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XXSketchxx wrote:The anecdotal evidence in this thread is adorable.
It's called estimations, generalizations, possible probability's. You do know what those words mean, right?
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XXSketchxx
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:11:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:XXSketchxx wrote:The anecdotal evidence in this thread is adorable. It's called estimations, generalizations, possible probability's. You do know what those words mean, right?
You know what "white knight" means right?
And yes, these are all "estimations, generalizations"...based on anecdotal evidence. I'm willing to be not a single person here has any actual documented results, just things they "remember" i.e. anecdotal.
Look it up. |
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Omu Matol
Repo.
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Posted - 2012.05.02 01:08:00 -
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XXSketchxx wrote:The anecdotal evidence in this thread is adorable.
Oh look everybody, one of those armchair statisticians. Yes, we all know it's anecdotal evidence at best, you're not the only one in here with a brain. This is a web forum, not a science symposium. Relax, people are just throwing out info. If you don't like, you're always welcome to ignore it.
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XXSketchxx
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.05.02 03:37:00 -
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Omu Matol wrote: If you don't like, you're always welcome to ignore it.
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XXSketchxx
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.05.02 03:39:00 -
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The thing is, we don't all know its anecdotal. Plenty of people will believe anything they read on these forums. Take the "sites are tied to regions" theory. That was repeated enough with nothing to back it such that it became accepted.
But adorable attempt at an :iceburn: Props yo. Props. |
Shaen Vesuvius
A pink Cow
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Posted - 2012.05.02 14:55:00 -
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Had one escalation from an anomaly in high sec. Never had one in null.
Also, as some1 else has posted, 1/10 or 1/15 of Gur Refuge or Hideaway spawns a DG, sounds about right. Ofcourse I don't have any statistics to provide but I am sure those two spawn em. Refuge being the preferred one cause it spawns destroyer sized DG rats that seem to have the odd chance of dropping something. In my non statistical experience DG frigates drop tags and usually ammo. TBH I dont remember ever getting a mod/implant from a DG frig. |
XXSketchxx
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.05.02 15:23:00 -
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My first faction spawn ever was from a Guristas Hideaway and he dropped a low grade crystal epsilon.
Random is random.
Though I do remember "tags and ammo" being a running joke when I lived in Tenal. |
Thurken
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.02 23:46:00 -
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XXSketchxx wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:XXSketchxx wrote:The anecdotal evidence in this thread is adorable. It's called estimations, generalizations, possible probability's. You do know what those words mean, right? You know what "white knight" means right? And yes, these are all "estimations, generalizations"...based on anecdotal evidence. I'm willing to bet not a single person here has any actual documented results, just things they "remember" i.e. anecdotal. Look it up.
estimations based on long time daily experience can be very accurate, when it comes to estimate percentages of drop/spawn rates. Data mining is there to refine and tighten estamitations. Sometimes even you have a lot of Data you still can compeltely fail with the analysis when you want to find mechanics behind the unknown.
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XXSketchxx
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.05.03 00:01:00 -
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I agree with you on principle, but I find it highly unlikely that much of the observations here are based on " long time daily experience." Its a game afterall. Also, take into account the notion that most of these "observations" are drawn from memory, thus further compromising their integrity. |
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