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Tink3r Tr0n
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Posted - 2009.01.23 02:56:00 -
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I'm new to the game and while in help chat I was told I would need to run alt accounts to make real isk or enjoy the game to the fullest.
While I certainly have no problem with players having a billion accounts I certainly don't want to juggle a bunch of them.
Is it possible for me to just play one account, Have one or two characters that fill a bunch of different roles on the same account (over time of course) and make a decent amount of isk?
I was planning on making one combat pilot that can run missions early on and one day get into a nice pvp corp and maybe down the road make a High sec Indy(miner) alt on the same account and stop training my main for two months. is this possible?
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Vabjekf
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Posted - 2009.01.23 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Vabjekf on 23/01/2009 03:31:00 The short answer is you do not need an alt.
Realize some things in the game are sort of 'alt only' because they are boring and automated.
Industry is an example. You don't need to do more than log in now and then if you are researching BPOs or making things. While some people will learn how to make their chosen ammo type on their 'mains' and perhaps buy a researched bpo of it already, most wouldn't bother, and i don't recommend you train anything that does not directly help your chosen profession in the game.
If you want to be a miner, then you don't need an alt (though a haler alt makes it easier to solo mine, you don't need one, and joining a mining corp that regularly does mining ops will remove the 'need' for that).
Combat is another thing. If you want to run missions and pve you do not need an alt. An alt that either uses a logistics ship on your main can make mision running easier, but you are able to run l4s in a BS easily enough. A looter/salvage alt can make things faster, but not required. Plenty of people run missions on a single account.
PVP costs money. While you could become a pirate and hope to make money by blowing up/ransoming other players, its not steady or assured cash flow. Any combat character can always just kill some rats in low sec/0.0 to make some ok money, though someone who wanted to pvp all the time would do good to have some sort of money making alt, an industry alt is a good choice because once you finally get them going they are, as i said above, things that just require you to log in now and then and do not require actual work on your part like a mission runner or a miner does. |
Lui Kai
Logistics Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.01.23 03:37:00 -
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As to whether you'd need an alt - No, never.
As to whether it's sometimes more efficient to have one - yes, if you're a solo-oriented/self-sufficient player.
The two principal cases where it's best to have an alt:
Mining. Having to haul in your own minerals is a big reduction in your efficiency.
0.0. In cases of protracted war, it's exceptionally convenient to have an alt capable of generating ISK to fuel your losses if things go badly. In cases of peace, it's exceptionally handy to have an alt in a throwaway ship to scout gates for you, or to light cynos later in your life when you get into a cap ship.
But none of the above "can't" be done without an alt - it's just easier to do it with one. |
Sgt Z3R0
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Posted - 2009.01.23 03:56:00 -
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Edited by: Sgt Z3R0 on 23/01/2009 03:57:57 Thanks for the quick replies.
Since I'm new I guess I'll start working on my Indy Isk making alt first Evemon has my Miner training listed at three months. Thats not bad considering I'm a casual player and not in a rush.
I plan to play eve for the long haul and have no problem pausing my mains training to train a money maker miner for a couple months if it means having a safe way to make isk after my pvp pilot gets blown to hell.
already started this is my combat pilot and tink3r is my indy alt :) doesnt matter if it will take a year to train them both decent as long as im having fun |
Raok
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:13:00 -
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Ewwwwww get a 2nd account please... pleae please please
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charming wanderer
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:21:00 -
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You may find that if you are planning on a combat career that running missions will be more profitable and will utilize skills that you will want to train for pvp anyhow.
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Vabjekf
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Posted - 2009.01.23 06:35:00 -
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I would recommend you just combat, and make money doing missions/ratting, then buy an industrial character from someone and put it on your account. Have it produce things for you for steady money, and also serve as a hauler alt.
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EyeDentify
Gallente Big Shadows Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.23 09:20:00 -
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One thing to keep in mind is also that if you put all your chars on one account you can only log one of them in at a time.
So two accounts is a good balance if you want to use alts, but in no way a must.
Good luck to you! |
Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2009.01.23 12:15:00 -
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If you are going to be a Military guy - then mission running to support your PVP is the way to go in the long run. Your higher level missions pay very well and don't take nearly the time, money and effort involved in Industrial activities - not to mention the fact - that in order for your Industrial guy to actually make money - he has to get involved in the Business aspects of the game.
Thus, if you want to primarily be a military guy - you can get along just fine with one character. This will save you a fortune in extra ships and skill books. If you want to do a little industrial or trade work - there's no reason you can't train your main to do it.
When you really NEED another character on the same account - is when you are doing things some place that you don't want to fly your main over there for.
When you really NEED another account - is when you need to do things with both accounts at the same time.
If you are in industry or trading there are multiple uses for alt characters or alt accounts.
Team mining is the way to go and having your own guy in a hauler makes you independent of having to have someone else help you. You can log in any time of the 23 hours the game is active and do what you want.
If you are trading, you can have characters in several different systems so that all you have to do is to log in to your alt to see what the prices are like over there instead of flying out there.
Now - there is another reason to have multiple accounts and characters. That reason is to try and learn as much as you can about all the different aspects of the game. You can play different factions, different specialties and really come to understand how the game works. That is what I do. That is what is fun for me. But - it is a very expensive hobby ... and while you can become a jack of all trades - you will be a master of none. So I wouldn't encourage any one to do that unless they share the same desire I do - which is simply to understand how the game works. If you want to be really good at any one thing - it pays to specialize and it is much more lucrative.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.23 13:16:00 -
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Want to be rich? Then yes. Want to be cool? Then yes. Want to spy on enemies? Then yes. Want to find out the best price in Jita? Then yes. Want to pay twice the cost for 100x more fun? Then yes. Want to do all the above? Then no.
PS. If you want to be classed as an addict you need 5+ accounts according to CCP.
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Vladimir Ilych
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.01.23 22:20:00 -
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No you don't need an alt. I have had only this one char since I started. I don't feel like I have missed out.
Alts on the same account can be good for scouting and cyno alts.
If you want 2nd account alts that is up to you.
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.01.24 00:37:00 -
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Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 24/01/2009 00:36:42 You don't need an alt for anything, really
Alts have some utility...allows you to train two characters up at once, giving you a bit more variety. My friend used his two accounts to help him trade, allowing him to move a bit more stuff across regions...some use alts to scout gates more fluidly than checking with a shuttle.
You will have no problem making ISK with just one account.
Originally by: Catharacta My CNR runs on salvager tears.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.01.24 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tink3r Tr0n
I'm new to the game and while in help chat I was told I would need to run alt accounts to make real isk or enjoy the game to the fullest.
While I certainly have no problem with players having a billion accounts I certainly don't want to juggle a bunch of them.
Is it possible for me to just play one account, Have one or two characters that fill a bunch of different roles on the same account (over time of course) and make a decent amount of isk?
I was planning on making one combat pilot that can run missions early on and one day get into a nice pvp corp and maybe down the road make a High sec Indy(miner) alt on the same account and stop training my main for two months. is this possible?
I made a slight edit to your post
don't stop training your main, just don't do it. (okay maybe for a hull upgrades 2, amarr industrial 1 bestower alt) but other than that just don't do it. between implants and learning skills that 3 month mining/industrial plan will get done quicker on your main. and if you want to retrain all the learnings on an alt that is just wasting time.
the combat pilot that can run missions will make more isk than a miner (in empire, not quite sure about 0.0, but then again lots of 0.0 stuff is all about location and who you know). you can of course add some industry skills, I would namely suggest manufacturing skills over mining skills. mining is **** boring, manufacturing you can at least just click make this and come back in a bit and it finishes itself.
I do have an alt who started off as a miner (boring as hell)/manufacturer, started training some science skills for invention. and then went pure combat. never looked back once I started combat training on him, he is just about 1y 11m old and would make for a good standalone character at this point. mining, manufacturing, invention, r&d, mission running, scan probing, pvp. all that kinda stuff.
just go with balanced attributes (maybe drop cha a few points), and well do your learning get some implants and train whatever you want to. just consider keeping it all on one character. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.01.24 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba Want to be rich? Then yes. Want to be cool? Then yes. Want to spy on enemies? Then yes. Want to find out the best price in Jita? Then yes. Want to pay twice the cost for 100x more fun? Then yes. Want to do all the above? Then no.
PS. If you want to be classed as an addict you need 5+ accounts according to CCP.
you're a special one Chribbs. |
Tink3r Tr0n
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Posted - 2009.01.26 01:54:00 -
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Edited by: Tink3r Tr0n on 26/01/2009 01:54:38 Thanks for all the Replies guys. I decided to just go back to combat and if one day I want to mess with the indy side i would either just train My main or get a 2nd account.
Thanks again you guys were very helpful |
Space Wanderer
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Posted - 2009.01.26 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Alts on the same account can be good for scouting and cyno alts.
? Can you open a cyno using an alt on the same account as your cap ship?
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Jahah Smith
Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.26 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Space Wanderer
Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Alts on the same account can be good for scouting and cyno alts.
? Can you open a cyno using an alt on the same account as your cap ship?
No, only one character on each account can be logged in at a time |
Space Wanderer
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Posted - 2009.01.26 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jahah Smith
Originally by: Space Wanderer
Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Alts on the same account can be good for scouting and cyno alts.
? Can you open a cyno using an alt on the same account as your cap ship?
No, only one character on each account can be logged in at a time
That was my question. The guy up there said that an alt on same account can be used as a cyno alt which doesn't seem correct to me (although I never usefd a cap ship, so I don't know for sure).
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Fiire Watch
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Posted - 2009.01.26 17:32:00 -
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How does one make another alt account?
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Sol Flare
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.26 17:36:00 -
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Everybody needs an alt =) Alts get things done in the world of eve. -------------------------------------------------- -=Student of Sun Tzu=- |
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Nightmarcher
Caldari XIII Interstellar Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.26 17:50:00 -
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Alt Account - 2nd EVE Online account
Each Account can have up to 3 characters, Only one character at a time can be logged into the game or training skills at any time.
Example Account 1 has A,B,C characters. If (A) is logged in (B)&(C) can not be, If (A) is training a skill (B)&(C) can not be.
A Alt account allows the user to run 2 EVE Clients while logged into both your Main account and Alt account - commonly called (duel boxing), This means you will be paying for two accounts. This will allow you to flip between clients (Alt-Tab)and controll two completely independent Accounts at the same time.
Hope this helps. |
Gretchen Marnarik
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Posted - 2009.01.26 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Fiire Watch How does one make another alt account?
In case the previous reply didn't make this clear for you - An "alt" account is just another account. You make it the same way you did your first one - and one has nothing to do with the other. They are simply two separate accounts.
In point of fact, your second account could become your main and your original account the "alt".
OR - you might not actually have a "main" and an "alt" but simply two accounts where neither was more important than the other.
"Main" and "alt" are just MMO slang terms that have come into use as many people do prioritize one account (or character) over another but you don't have to do that and they aren't official terms. If you communicated with the Developers and made reference to your "main" and/or "alt" they wouldn't actually have any idea which accounts or characters you were talking about if you didn't tell them which was which (not that they would care).
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