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Deks
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:10:00 -
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Edited by: Deks on 23/01/2009 04:10:47 OK EVE CANNOT EVEN HANDLE AND 80 SHIP FIGHT IN OLD MAN STAR
SOMETHING IS WRONG
WOULD A DEV PLEASE ANSWER THIS POST AND EXPLAIN WHY THE SPACE COMABT IN THIS GAME IS SCREWED TO THE POINT WHERE EVEN A SMALL FW ENGAGEMENT CANNOT TAKE PLACE WITHOUT EVERYONE DIEING! ITS LIKE THE FREAKING LOTTERY...OH DID I SURVIVE OR DID I POP? DID MY POD MAKE IT OUT?
SERIOUSLY YOU MAKE ENOUGH MONEY FROM SUBS SO FIX IT IF NOT ADMIT IT AND START AGAIN!
ANYONE WHO HAS HAD THIS EXPERIENCE PLEASE POST YOUR THOUGHTS HERE MAYBE IT WILL GET THROUGH THOUGH I DOUBT IT!
FEEL FREE TO FLAME BUT PLEASE THIS IS YOUR GAME, YOUR MONEY TOO _______________________________________________ A man by any other name is a surely a woman :/ |
Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:14:00 -
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The logs show no lag. You must be mistaken.
------ I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. |
Haakelen
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:15:00 -
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I TOO HAVE EXPERIENCED LAG IN EVE ONLINE, ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS TO HAVE GOTTEN BETTER IN THE SITUATIONS I'VE BEEN IN RECENTLY.
HOWEVER THE MAIN CONCERN I HAVE WITH EVE ONLINE IS THE UPCOMING CHANGES IN THE MARCH 10TH PATCH REMOVING SUPPORT FOR LEGACY HARDWARE. THIS WILL EFFECT ME GREATLY AS MY APPLE 2 PLUS WILL HAVE TO BE REPLACED. ON THE OTHER HAND BY UPGRADING I WILL GAIN THE ABILITY TO USE LOWER-CASE TEXT, WHICH SHOULD BE AN INTERESTING CHANGE WHICH YOU TOO MIGHT ENJOY.
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Syrias
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:15:00 -
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lol yea for real its just 90 players simultaneously de-syncing
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:15:00 -
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Syrias
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:17:00 -
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to be fair lower case will reduce the stress on the servers so i'm all for it!
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:24:00 -
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Originally by: Haakelen I TOO HAVE EXPERIENCED LAG IN EVE ONLINE, ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS TO HAVE GOTTEN BETTER IN THE SITUATIONS I'VE BEEN IN RECENTLY.
HOWEVER THE MAIN CONCERN I HAVE WITH EVE ONLINE IS THE UPCOMING CHANGES IN THE MARCH 10TH PATCH REMOVING SUPPORT FOR LEGACY HARDWARE. THIS WILL EFFECT ME GREATLY AS MY APPLE 2 PLUS WILL HAVE TO BE REPLACED. ON THE OTHER HAND BY UPGRADING I WILL GAIN THE ABILITY TO USE LOWER-CASE TEXT, WHICH SHOULD BE AN INTERESTING CHANGE WHICH YOU TOO MIGHT ENJOY.
Holy Hell. Seriously, this is one for the books.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:29:00 -
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For some reason, I keep imagining the OP as Loud Howard from Dilbert.
------ I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. |
eFart
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: Deks Edited by: Deks on 23/01/2009 04:10:47...
FEEL FREE TO FLAME BUT PLEASE THIS IS YOUR GAME, YOUR MONEY TOO
i don't need yo permission to flame, i falme wheneve i wanne falem, but on the other hand if ccp isn't gonne fix lga soon - gimme yo stuff bev yo quit yo?
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:35:00 -
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Originally by: eFart
Originally by: Deks Edited by: Deks on 23/01/2009 04:10:47...
FEEL FREE TO FLAME BUT PLEASE THIS IS YOUR GAME, YOUR MONEY TOO
i don't need yo permission to flame, i falme wheneve i wanne falem, but on the other hand if ccp isn't gonne fix lga soon - gimme yo stuff bev yo quit yo?
YES
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Spurty
Caldari Technologic Dance
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:37:00 -
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holy walls of caps!
Thought my dad had signed up for a moment there.
my thoughts here are 'SNAFU' BrRAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiNNNNNNZzzzzzzzzzzz |
Falcon Troy
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:42:00 -
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The caps are almost reasonable. You people weren't there. It's pretty ****ing embarrassing. _____________ Hai. |
Deks
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:47:00 -
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yea for real i am not a whiner but caps are justified, i thought i had reverted to my 33kb/s modem line! _______________________________________________ A man by any other name is a surely a woman :/ |
Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:49:00 -
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Umm: You signed up for FW. You weren't drafted. CCP will fix the lag based on conditions in space. You fight FW with the server you have, not the server you want. Lag will be fixed in six days or six weeks, but no longer so just stfu until then. boo-friggin-hoo additional ironic, tasteless comment |
Ocih
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:51:00 -
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No need to fix lag now. He used caps. That makes him wrong.
Welcome to EvE online. Stone wallers are us.
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OP: they know Lag is bad. We know lag is bad. Yes, EvE is a lottery. If you bring a Zealot and encounter a Vaga, you die.
If you fit for a fight with a Domi, a Raven will show. Or you can blob up and get lag. Pretty gay, isn't it?
Must have been your settings. The ones they default you to aren't actually meant for playing the game. It would be unheard of to maybe add more than one set of Overviews to our characters? Name them? That makes us lazy though. To pay to have someone else do it right the first time and not want to go along behind our emplyees and clean up behind them. Afterall, they can't be expected to do everything. It's not like we pay them..
You know what the answer is though. Try something else for 6 months.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar MasterBlasters Inc. CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:56:00 -
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Garmon drafted me into FW... and then he lured me into his van with promises of candy and showed me lewd pictures, and then he..... |
Syrias
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:57:00 -
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i did say feel free to flame so thanks for that, go back to your POS in the middle of nowhere where the node has to handle like 5 ships a month and flame me again when you encounter the real EVE experience
FW is a big part of this game and it is sooooooooo broken! end of conversation! and fyi in 6 months there will be even more subscribers eating up bandwidth so i fail to see what good it will do hiding away, don't you want your game to be fixed?
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Falcon Troy
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum Umm: You signed up for FW. You weren't drafted. CCP will fix the lag based on conditions in space. You fight FW with the server you have, not the server you want. Lag will be fixed in six days or six weeks, but no longer so just stfu until then. boo-friggin-hoo additional ironic, tasteless comment
So basically you're just another moronic troll whose logic follows "It's broken, oh well." ?
Yeah I thought I got that right. _____________ Hai. |
Ocih
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.23 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: Syrias i did say feel free to flame so thanks for that, go back to your POS in the middle of nowhere where the node has to handle like 5 ships a month and flame me again when you encounter the real EVE experience
FW is a big part of this game and it is sooooooooo broken! end of conversation! and fyi in 6 months there will be even more subscribers eating up bandwidth so i fail to see what good it will do hiding away, don't you want your game to be fixed?
Old Man Star is in the middle of nowhere? It's 6 jumps to Oursulaert, one jump to Villore. It's hub Gal space. |
An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.23 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: Syrias i did say feel free to flame so thanks for that, go back to your POS in the middle of nowhere where the node has to handle like 5 ships a month and flame me again when you encounter the real EVE experience
FW is a big part of this game and it is sooooooooo broken! end of conversation! and fyi in 6 months there will be even more subscribers eating up bandwidth so i fail to see what good it will do hiding away, don't you want your game to be fixed?
It's true, I've never even seen more than 50 people in a system. And once that happens, I just get a slidshow. I mean, 512KB of RAM is a lot right? 512 is a big number.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Vabjekf
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Posted - 2009.01.23 06:19:00 -
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I think weapon grouping was implemented to decrease lag. Instead of having to deal with 8 guns the server now only has to track 1 that's 8 times as powerful.
it stands to reason then that drone grouping should also be popular, launch one huge drone instead of 5 small ones.
And ultimately, fleet grouping. Just stick all those ships together into one large ship.
So now all fleet battles will be fought by one ship with one gun, and a drone.
Works fine if you ask me, after all the only 'tactic' is 'everyone shoot the same target' anyway. May as well have it all happen with one button. |
Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2009.01.23 06:40:00 -
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Edited by: Vladimir Norkoff on 23/01/2009 06:42:06
Yeah it'd be nice if they would do something about the lag. Done the FW fleet thing. It sucked. Three fleet fights in a row with lag, desync, ship loss and poddings pretty much ended it for me (and yeah, all settings were turned off). To top it off, CCP's crap-laden generic response to every petition showed just how much they care about the issue. They simply don't. CCP can go fornicate themselves.
I couldn't recommend FW to anyone. Hell, I got issues even recommending EVE to new players. CCP is too busy spamming the entire interweb with ads to actually get to something so mundane as fixing their goddamn game. Thankgod I have enough ISK to pay for GTCs. God forbid I spend real money for this.
EDIT - Stupid filter actually blocks "*****" & "****".
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.23 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: Haakelen I TOO HAVE EXPERIENCED LAG IN EVE ONLINE, ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS TO HAVE GOTTEN BETTER IN THE SITUATIONS I'VE BEEN IN RECENTLY.
HOWEVER THE MAIN CONCERN I HAVE WITH EVE ONLINE IS THE UPCOMING CHANGES IN THE MARCH 10TH PATCH REMOVING SUPPORT FOR LEGACY HARDWARE. THIS WILL EFFECT ME GREATLY AS MY APPLE 2 PLUS WILL HAVE TO BE REPLACED. ON THE OTHER HAND BY UPGRADING I WILL GAIN THE ABILITY TO USE LOWER-CASE TEXT, WHICH SHOULD BE AN INTERESTING CHANGE WHICH YOU TOO MIGHT ENJOY.
haak, did you experience any lag while in a system with 400 people in it, i didnt i think it just the node FW is on
you right next to a market hub, maybe you should try 0.0 =P |
Tarjema Maloria
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Posted - 2009.01.23 06:47:00 -
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So before I get started let me just say I understand the complaints of lag, and I'm not saying anyone is wrong or anything like that. We all know the ISK gobbling monster lag to be. Now with that being said lets look at this from a different POV for a sec.
How long did we beg CCP for some type of FW? How long since the game began did it take them to resolve jita lag, and make 0.0 blobs bearable to an extent? How long has FW been out? Do we think CCP is happy with the fact that such a highly anticipated feature is struggling so badly?
These are all questions we have to ask ourselves when lag gets the better of our wallets. I'm quite sure CCP knows how the playerbase feels about this, and i'm also quite sure they are working towards a resolution. I highly doubt it will be fixed next week, but I also highly doubt it will take as long as it took to get major improvements in other laggy situations. They now have the tech. and the knowhow, and I'm sure its just a matter of them wishing to do it right the first time. Not just throwing chunks of money and hardware at it untill it goes away.
So with all that said. When life pwns you with lemons, buy a juicer. Not that FW is a lemon but its gonna need some perfomance tweaks before its an enjoyable play. Lag is just one of those things like someone cutting you off on the freeway. Makes you angry as hell but theres not a lot you can do about it from your seat....unless you wanna go psycho about it. So, when the lag monster comes to a PC near you. Just bash your head against the keyboard 4 or 5 times, take a deep breath and go do something else for a bit. Then go do it all again....thus is the life of a pod pilot. |
Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.01.23 06:50:00 -
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I've had some fights with that many people and had almost no lag. They can't all be good
The start of that fight was pretty bad though. I ended up warping out and warping back in which, while it took a while, cleared it up pretty well.
P.S. o/ from the gallente side of the war, I was the Zealot |
Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.23 06:55:00 -
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you havnt checked you stats right as for one it doesnt look like FW is struggling to me if
1. each race has there own FW alliance tourney team 2.about 15k people are involved in factional warfare 4. around 400 kills yesterday means it very active 5.31 systems were taken all together yesterday
that sound pretty sucessful to me.
I had loads of fun when i was in it and that who i got recruited into 0.0 work , then moved to a much better corp |
Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.23 07:03:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 23/01/2009 07:06:20
Originally by: Falcon Troy
Originally by: Dirk Magnum Umm: You signed up for FW. You weren't drafted. CCP will fix the lag based on conditions in space. You fight FW with the server you have, not the server you want. Lag will be fixed in six days or six weeks, but no longer so just stfu until then. boo-friggin-hoo additional ironic, tasteless comment
So basically you're just another moronic troll whose logic follows "It's broken, oh well." ?
Yeah I thought I got that right.
Correct on all counts, except that lag threads don't contribute anything to the discourse of Eve after the first post is over. CCP knows there are lag problems.
edit: FW has other issues than lag but that's not what this thread was about.
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Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2009.01.23 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C i mean we had a 800 man fleet fight and was not hit with lag at all
And therein lies the problem, yes? If you can do a 800 man fight in 0.0 with no lag, then why is a 40-man fight in FW unplayable? And if it is something so simple as moving the market hubs to different nodes, then why haven't they?
Doesn't take much forethought to realize that there might be some major fighting in the systems that are contested in FW. So either they didn't think about it, or did and just didn't give a damn. Unforgiveable either way.
Taxman VI: Voided Ledger
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.23 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Vladimir Norkoff
Originally by: Armoured C i mean we had a 800 man fleet fight and was not hit with lag at all
And therein lies the problem, yes? If you can do a 800 man fight in 0.0 with no lag, then why is a 40-man fight in FW unplayable? And if it is something so simple as moving the market hubs to different nodes, then why haven't they?
Doesn't take much forethought to realize that there might be some major fighting in the systems that are contested in FW. So either they didn't think about it, or did and just didn't give a damn. Unforgiveable either way.
Because many people have no idea what the difference between graphical lag and server lag is. Or, because the golden rule of 0.0 is, shut up in fleets, no one gives a crap about how much you're lagging.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Squably
Minmatar Invenio Inceptum
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Posted - 2009.01.23 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: Syrias i did say feel free to flame so thanks for that, go back to your POS in the middle of nowhere where the node has to handle like 5 ships a month and flame me again when you encounter the real EVE experience
FW is a big part of this game and it is sooooooooo broken! end of conversation! and fyi in 6 months there will be even more subscribers eating up bandwidth so i fail to see what good it will do hiding away, don't you want your game to be fixed?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAH *pauze* HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHA
Dude get a grip, come down to play with the big boys and you will see FW is a puny attempt to get new players into pvp. There's fights between 200+ ppl daily in the 0.0 warzones, gets over 1000 ppl in the weekend. So hush n go back to the HUGE BIG ASS 60 guy fights n stop talking about stuff you don't have experience with. Signature removed. Please do not imply profanity in your signature. Navigator
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