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Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
501
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Posted - 2012.04.19 06:58:00 -
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Now that i got your attention, this is just a little ploy to get something positive out of the goon's "burn Jita" campaign.
So far CCP won't do anyhting as destroying any ships non-goons in Jita is not forbidden by the rules, and in CCP's view, if beating your neighbor's children is not forbidden by the rules, you can have it. 
Of course, the "politically correct" answer would be to assemble scout fleets at the gates and blow every goon ship moving through, but then, we know that if such thing was a serious possibility, the goons would be going after something else to spoil.Their whole goal is that "carebears" will allow somebody to disrupt Jita and won't move a finger about it, and they are right.
But then, you know, if something is not forbidden by the rules, you can have your fun.
So my suggestion is: throw the ball back to CCP
Game mechanics are that, if sbdy. attacks a neutral in hisec, CONCORD will spawn and destroy the attacker.
Well then, if you are in Jita and sbdy. blows your ship and there is no CONCORD spawn, you can petition it.
Of course, we know that CONCORD spawns are limited and the Goons know how to disrupt CONCORD by diverting it chasing goons in asteroid belts while indies are slaughtered all across the system, but, do the rules forbid to petition CCP about CONCORD failing to spawn?
No, they don't.
So, TLDR:
If you are blown in Jita and CONCORD doesn't spawns, petition it. Do it once for each ship you lose and CONCORD fails to spawn. Make so that every goon kill becomes a petition to CCP. If goons troll you, troll CCP back.  EVE residents: 5% WH; 8% Lowsec; 15% Nullsec; 72% Highsec. CSM 7: 1 highsec resident out of 14.-a
CSM demographics vs EVE demographics, nothing to worry about... |

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
217
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:04:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Now that i got your attention, this is just a little ploy to get something positive out of the goon's "burn Jita" campaign. So far CCP won't do anyhting as destroying any ships non-goons in Jita is not forbidden by the rules, and in CCP's view, if beating your neighbor's children is not forbidden by the rules, you can have it.  Of course, the "politically correct" answer would be to assemble scout fleets at the gates and blow every goon ship moving through, but then, we know that if such thing was a serious possibility, the goons would be going after something else to spoil.Their whole goal is that "carebears" will allow somebody to disrupt Jita and won't move a finger about it, and they are right. But then, you know, if something is not forbidden by the rules, you can have your fun. So my suggestion is: throw the ball back to CCPGame mechanics are that, if sbdy. attacks a neutral in hisec, CONCORD will spawn and destroy the attacker. Well then, if you are in Jita and sbdy. blows your ship and there is no CONCORD spawn, you can petition it.Of course, we know that CONCORD spawns are limited and the Goons know how to disrupt CONCORD by diverting it chasing goons in asteroid belts while indies are slaughtered all across the system, but, do the rules forbid to petition CCP about CONCORD failing to spawn? No, they don't. So, TLDR:If you are blown in Jita and CONCORD doesn't spawns, petition it. Do it once for each ship you lose and CONCORD fails to spawn. Make so that every goon kill becomes a petition to CCP. If goons troll you, troll CCP back. 
Yes, I'm sure this plan will get somewhere. |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
688
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:10:00 -
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This thread is going places. Mostly to page 2 after the lock, but hey.
But by all means, please continue plotting to abuse the petition system with fraudulent petitions in order to try to punish Goons because CCP respects the sandbox they've spent a decade and millions of man hours to create and keep up. I'm certain that will go over well. |

Large Collidable Object
morons.
1315
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:14:00 -
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Everytime I see this name and actually click on the post I am amazed by yet another level of mind-blowing idiocy. You know... morons. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3401
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:18:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Now that i got your attention, this is just a little ploy to get something positive out of the goon's "burn Jita" campaign. So far CCP won't do anyhting as destroying any ships non-goons in Jita is not forbidden by the rules, and in CCP's view, if beating your neighbor's children is not forbidden by the rules, you can have it.  Of course, the "politically correct" answer would be to assemble scout fleets at the gates and blow every goon ship moving through, but then, we know that if such thing was a serious possibility, the goons would be going after something else to spoil.Their whole goal is that "carebears" will allow somebody to disrupt Jita and won't move a finger about it, and they are right. But then, you know, if something is not forbidden by the rules, you can have your fun. So my suggestion is: throw the ball back to CCPGame mechanics are that, if sbdy. attacks a neutral in hisec, CONCORD will spawn and destroy the attacker. Well then, if you are in Jita and sbdy. blows your ship and there is no CONCORD spawn, you can petition it.Of course, we know that CONCORD spawns are limited and the Goons know how to disrupt CONCORD by diverting it chasing goons in asteroid belts while indies are slaughtered all across the system, but, do the rules forbid to petition CCP about CONCORD failing to spawn? No, they don't. So, TLDR:If you are blown in Jita and CONCORD doesn't spawns, petition it. Do it once for each ship you lose and CONCORD fails to spawn. Make so that every goon kill becomes a petition to CCP. If goons troll you, troll CCP back. 
Wait what? Why shouldn't CONCORD spawn? Due to some eldritch Dark Goon magick?
Honeslty this hysteria about goons was amusing for a while, but now it's getting to the level of MAKE THE MITTANI SHOW US HIS REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-ahttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
604
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:19:00 -
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Can I just come and enjoy the fireworks? - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |

Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:19:00 -
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Yes Harassing GM's will get you lots of places.. Not only that, what you are suggesting, will get people on their own BAN list for abusing the Petition system.
Also you are limited to 2 petitions.. And given that it'll be about this, and if people did do it, expect 2-4 week response time.. assuming they don't just go a mass warning/ban of all of you for wasting their time petitioning over a non-existent exploit.
FYI.. Concord doesn't need to spawn at all for Burn Jita.. Navy, along with Gate and Station Guns will take care of most GCC ships at the station and gate, which will be where most deaths are going to happen. |

Roime
Shiva Furnace
499
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:20:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai,
you have revealed my latent tendency to masochism. Before you started posting, I didn't know I wanted to purposefully harm myself. I thank you for this, for now I know I can seek cure for it.
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Ai Shun
663
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:23:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:But then, you know, if something is not forbidden by the rules, you can have your fun.
Fortunately your subscription runs out in April, as you said before. So thankfully after the 30th we won't have to see you post this kind of drivel anymore. Unless you were lying; which would not surprise me!
If something is allowed by the rules it is part of the game. This is the nature of EVE as the videos, the learning curve, the media coverage and just about everything else about the game has highlighted.
I, for one, am supporting the Goons even though they are the villains because they play EVE well. They're not here looking for X3: Barbie edition. They are here for EVE.
If you don't like them ... well. You're already GTFO so I guess - grats! But don't make trouble for CCP because people are playing the game within the rules. |

Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:25:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Now that i got your attention, this is just a little ploy to get something positive out of the goon's "burn Jita" campaign. So far CCP won't do anyhting as destroying any ships non-goons in Jita is not forbidden by the rules, and in CCP's view, if beating your neighbor's children is not forbidden by the rules, you can have it.  Of course, the "politically correct" answer would be to assemble scout fleets at the gates and blow every goon ship moving through, but then, we know that if such thing was a serious possibility, the goons would be going after something else to spoil.Their whole goal is that "carebears" will allow somebody to disrupt Jita and won't move a finger about it, and they are right. But then, you know, if something is not forbidden by the rules, you can have your fun. So my suggestion is: throw the ball back to CCPGame mechanics are that, if sbdy. attacks a neutral in hisec, CONCORD will spawn and destroy the attacker. Well then, if you are in Jita and sbdy. blows your ship and there is no CONCORD spawn, you can petition it.Of course, we know that CONCORD spawns are limited and the Goons know how to disrupt CONCORD by diverting it chasing goons in asteroid belts while indies are slaughtered all across the system, but, do the rules forbid to petition CCP about CONCORD failing to spawn? No, they don't. So, TLDR:If you are blown in Jita and CONCORD doesn't spawns, petition it. Do it once for each ship you lose and CONCORD fails to spawn. Make so that every goon kill becomes a petition to CCP. If goons troll you, troll CCP back.  Wait what? Why shouldn't CONCORD spawn? Due to some eldritch Dark Goon magick? Honeslty this hysteria about goons was amusing for a while, but now it's getting to the level of MAKE THE MITTANI SHOW US HIS REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
You joke, but this is what it is really about for these people. |
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Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
339
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:25:00 -
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The moment you started talking about being 'politically correct' as if it was how things should be I stopped reading. WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |

Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
126
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:26:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Now that i got your attention...] Can I get very close to your body. It's comfy in the back of my Rifter.
EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
620
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:32:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:Everytime I see this name and actually click on the post I am amazed by yet another level of mind-blowing idiocy.
I did not know that name, but now that I do, I gladly agree with you. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3401
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:36:00 -
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Andrey Wartooth wrote:Malcanis wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Now that i got your attention, this is just a little ploy to get something positive out of the goon's "burn Jita" campaign. So far CCP won't do anyhting as destroying any ships non-goons in Jita is not forbidden by the rules, and in CCP's view, if beating your neighbor's children is not forbidden by the rules, you can have it.  Of course, the "politically correct" answer would be to assemble scout fleets at the gates and blow every goon ship moving through, but then, we know that if such thing was a serious possibility, the goons would be going after something else to spoil.Their whole goal is that "carebears" will allow somebody to disrupt Jita and won't move a finger about it, and they are right. But then, you know, if something is not forbidden by the rules, you can have your fun. So my suggestion is: throw the ball back to CCPGame mechanics are that, if sbdy. attacks a neutral in hisec, CONCORD will spawn and destroy the attacker. Well then, if you are in Jita and sbdy. blows your ship and there is no CONCORD spawn, you can petition it.Of course, we know that CONCORD spawns are limited and the Goons know how to disrupt CONCORD by diverting it chasing goons in asteroid belts while indies are slaughtered all across the system, but, do the rules forbid to petition CCP about CONCORD failing to spawn? No, they don't. So, TLDR:If you are blown in Jita and CONCORD doesn't spawns, petition it. Do it once for each ship you lose and CONCORD fails to spawn. Make so that every goon kill becomes a petition to CCP. If goons troll you, troll CCP back.  Wait what? Why shouldn't CONCORD spawn? Due to some eldritch Dark Goon magick? Honeslty this hysteria about goons was amusing for a while, but now it's getting to the level of MAKE THE MITTANI SHOW US HIS REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE You joke, but this is what it is really about for these people.
I'm not joking.The level of paranoid nonsense I've seen on these forums about goons has pretty much equalled the level of hi-grade nut-jobbery more commonly associated with the Birther lunatics.
Did you know that Goons control virtually all the tech moons in the game?
Did you know that Goons can stop CONCORD spawning?
Did you know that CCP GMs refuse to punish Goons when they bot or RMT?
Did you know that CCP want to nerf Technetium but GOONS WONT LET THEM?
Did you know that "most" of the CSM are either in Goons or are Goon alts?
Did you know that Goons are responsible for almost all suicide ganking?
Did you know that Goons completely control 0.0?
AND the hi-sec economy
DID YOU?
(Also tell Uncle Malcy your secret; I mean who has the time to do all that? You guys have been pretty damb busy is what I guess I'm saying here.) Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-ahttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3401
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:37:00 -
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Oh wait I forgot my personal favourite, from my personal favourite nutjob: Did you know Goons can raise a 1600 man maelstrom fleet every time? (Therefore Titans aren't OP) Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-ahttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
532
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:38:00 -
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If I'm ever blown in Jita, I'm gonna just let her finish me off.
It's not rocket surgery. |

Ai Shun
663
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:38:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:(Also tell Uncle Malcy your secret; I mean who has the time to do all that? You guys have been pretty damb busy is what I guess I'm saying here.)
You forgot the one about CCP being Goons. And every post by Scooter. |

Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
123
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:39:00 -
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1/10 |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3401
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:42:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Malcanis wrote:(Also tell Uncle Malcy your secret; I mean who has the time to do all that? You guys have been pretty damb busy is what I guess I'm saying here.) You forgot the one about CCP being Goons. And every post by Scooter.
So I did. I apologise for the omission, it was purely accidental.
Or was it??? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-ahttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

RAP ACTION HERO
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:45:00 -
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your postings will be missed. and no, concord will always spawn, concord will always blow up the gankers. however, this is not saying that the indy ships are safe. |
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Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
467
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:48:00 -
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story bro cool I have more space likes than you.-a |

Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:51:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote:Malcanis wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Now that i got your attention, this is just a little ploy to get something positive out of the goon's "burn Jita" campaign. So far CCP won't do anyhting as destroying any ships non-goons in Jita is not forbidden by the rules, and in CCP's view, if beating your neighbor's children is not forbidden by the rules, you can have it.  Of course, the "politically correct" answer would be to assemble scout fleets at the gates and blow every goon ship moving through, but then, we know that if such thing was a serious possibility, the goons would be going after something else to spoil.Their whole goal is that "carebears" will allow somebody to disrupt Jita and won't move a finger about it, and they are right. But then, you know, if something is not forbidden by the rules, you can have your fun. So my suggestion is: throw the ball back to CCPGame mechanics are that, if sbdy. attacks a neutral in hisec, CONCORD will spawn and destroy the attacker. Well then, if you are in Jita and sbdy. blows your ship and there is no CONCORD spawn, you can petition it.Of course, we know that CONCORD spawns are limited and the Goons know how to disrupt CONCORD by diverting it chasing goons in asteroid belts while indies are slaughtered all across the system, but, do the rules forbid to petition CCP about CONCORD failing to spawn? No, they don't. So, TLDR:If you are blown in Jita and CONCORD doesn't spawns, petition it. Do it once for each ship you lose and CONCORD fails to spawn. Make so that every goon kill becomes a petition to CCP. If goons troll you, troll CCP back.  Wait what? Why shouldn't CONCORD spawn? Due to some eldritch Dark Goon magick? Honeslty this hysteria about goons was amusing for a while, but now it's getting to the level of MAKE THE MITTANI SHOW US HIS REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE You joke, but this is what it is really about for these people. I'm not joking.The level of paranoid nonsense I've seen on these forums about goons has pretty much equalled the level of hi-grade nut-jobbery more commonly associated with the Birther lunatics. Did you know that Goons control virtually all the tech moons in the game? Did you know that Goons can stop CONCORD spawning? Did you know that CCP GMs refuse to punish Goons when they bot or RMT? Did you know that CCP want to nerf Technetium but GOONS WONT LET THEM? Did you know that "most" of the CSM are either in Goons or are Goon alts? Did you know that Goons are responsible for almost all suicide ganking? Did you know that Goons completely control 0.0? AND the hi-sec economy DID YOU? (Also tell Uncle Malcy your secret; I mean who has the time to do all that? You guys have been pretty damb busy is what I guess I'm saying here.)
Did you know that Goons control virtually all the tech moons in the game? I've heard this one. It's a riot.
Did you know that Goons can stop CONCORD spawning? THis one is just...I mean, really? Come on.
Did you know that CCP GMs refuse to punish Goons when they bot or RMT? I have not heard this one
Did you know that CCP want to nerf Technetium but GOONS WONT LET THEM? This one is good, and is easily verifiable to be false. I don't know where this one comes from.
Did you know that "most" of the CSM are either in Goons or are Goon alts? All of EVE is Goons alts.
Did you know that Goons are responsible for almost all suicide ganking? Goons like killing themselves.
Did you know that Goons completely control 0.0? We do.
AND the hi-sec economy This, too. |

Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
165
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:53:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:If you are blown in Jita and CONCORD doesn't spawns well, I've never heard it called THAT before.
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Ai Shun
663
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:55:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Or was it???
OMG. I am like totally hearing The Twilight Zone theme song now ...
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Mugged Yougot
NorCorp Security AAA Citizens
3
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:55:00 -
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You are encouraging people to throw around false accusations, and not only that, but you will also make CCP a ton of work with sorting out what's f0 realz and whats not. Idiot. |

Dr Silkworth
Two Geezers in Space
21
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Posted - 2012.04.19 07:57:00 -
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They control the servers too so they erase all evidence. WHere do you think all the "the logs show nothing" responses? |

Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.04.19 08:01:00 -
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When enemies of GSF are calling you a moron for what you say about GSF, you should take a step back and think about your beliefs. |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
690
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Posted - 2012.04.19 08:12:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Malcanis wrote:(Also tell Uncle Malcy your secret; I mean who has the time to do all that? You guys have been pretty damb busy is what I guess I'm saying here.) You forgot the one about CCP being Goons. And every post by Scooter.
Hey now, I like Scooter. His "lets build up a defense" is INFINITELY better than the "WAAAH, MOMMY CCP, THERE ARE MEAN PEOPLE IN THIS GAME~~~~!!!! FIX IT~~~~!!!!" posts. |

Liberator 1
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.19 08:18:00 -
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Think I'll just turn up and watch the fireworks. It's an interesting experiment during which many Goons will die. |

Jonah Gravenstein
156
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Posted - 2012.04.19 08:54:00 -
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Liberator 1 wrote:Think I'll just turn up and watch the fireworks. It's an interesting experiment during which everything will die.
FYP
@ The OP Even the "son of God" facepalms at your insanity, change your meds
Some of us are prey, some of us are hunters, if the hunters eradicate the prey what do they have left? Adapt/die/HTFU applies to both PVE and PVP. |
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