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CCP Spitfire
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Posted - 2012.04.20 15:18:00 -
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CCP karkur returns with another dev blog on the UI improvements that will be a part of the Escalation to Inferno release. You can check out the blog right here; as always, your feedback is most appreciated!
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.20 15:18:00 -
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first :D CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.20 15:59:00 -
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Creat Posudol wrote:Excellent changes! Especially the own market order highlight of course I do have one suggestion I keep posting on every thread about "small stuff": Can we please get a better behavior for the double-click in the "My Orders" tab of "My Wallet"? Currently it does a "show info", which can already be accomplished by a single click on the (i)-icon at the end (which I also never use). Please assign the double-click to perform a "Show Market Details", which is something every industrialist constantly uses! I'm sure (hopeful) it's a change of one or two lines of code to switch the dblclck-handler. Please pretty prettyplease! OK.... DONE! (it already works like that, I changed it in Crucible 1.5)
CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2012.04.20 16:31:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Holy ****, thank you so much! Explorer, is there a way we can donate to a team party for these awesome changes? There probably is; I could establish, say, a PayPal account for you all to donate to... but you can also just sub to more accounts!
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Online, CCP Games | Follow on: Twitter / Google+ |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.20 16:41:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:"If the scroll has focus, and you have an entry in it selected, only that entry will be copied. However, if the scroll has focus, but no entry is selected, CTRL+C will copy all the content of the scroll."
Just tried that with "transactions". I can get selected items to copy, but with nothing selected, nothing gets copied.
I'm pretty sure your scroll just doesn't have focus (it's probably on the "load" button). If the scroll has focus, it has a white border around the edges. CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2012.04.20 17:04:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote:dude, excel, thats like some hardcore sci fi stuff right there. Currently I can't even get stuff to display properly from word to excel and you made it so it goes from eve to excel.
Its like the future, but now. Hahahahahaha
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Online, CCP Games | Follow on: Twitter / Google+ |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.20 17:43:00 -
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SkinSin wrote:Quote:This is something we have wanted to do for a long time, but what was stopping us was that we weren't too happy about the extra trips to the server to fetch data. Then finally we decided to bite the bullet and just do it! Good grief! Really? You mean the behind the scenes market order details don't hold the details of who created them? So you can just say: if (market_order.creator == char_name) then colour_it_purple. Of course the server knows who owns which order, but we don't want to send sensitive information like that to the client CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.20 18:40:00 -
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lceman wrote:are you gonna fix the r.a.m. rounding issue for t2 blueprints cause this is annoying ass hell that i have to 2500 ram to produce 2500 drones/crystalls/ammo etc, but i only need 250 r.a.m
Tbh this bug has been ingame for soon to be 3-+ years and its still not fixed. Have you bugreported it? CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.20 18:43:00 -
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Shandir wrote: By the way, the reason (I imagine) that the tooltips defaulted to the text in the field was so you could hover over a text that was too large for the visible field and see a tooltip of the full text - have you removed this functionality? Yes, as a default behavior. If there are some places where people feel they need this, we can add it back on case by case basis. CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.20 18:50:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:regarding the "find group in browser tab" feature of the market window.
is there a reason why it can't be enabled all the time? If there is... could you add a setting "link market to browser tab". Modern IDEs have that so Eve needs that too :) Do you mean that whenever you show market details on something, it opens that place in the browse tab? I wanted to make this so you had to manually do this, mostly because I don't want people to lose their place in the browse tab if they are just checking out this one item (maybe I shouldn't worry about that?)... there could also be some problems with finding the right place in the list if the market is just loading at the same time you do this. CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.20 18:52:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:ccp punkturis, you better deliver something soon, ccp karkur is closing in on my favorite dev list Punkturis is working on some very cool stuff she'll be telling you about pretty soon
CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2012.04.20 19:15:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Gilbaron wrote:ccp punkturis, you better deliver something soon, ccp karkur is closing in on my favorite dev list Punkturis is working on some very cool stuff she'll be telling you about pretty soon Don't you all worry, I'm quite busy sabotaging that devblog of hers... Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Online, CCP Games | Follow on: Twitter / Google+ |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.20 19:59:00 -
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Seloena wrote:Only small sad thing is you couldn't do this as we suggest - caching and fetching only if need, not every time. But maybe we will not feel that much ^^" Quote:A "Client" submenu has been added to transaction log in the journal as suggested by Seloena. Wow! I feel much awarded by that sentence. Thank you very much for posting my name : Awwww, thanks for the kind words and all the help and great attitude in that other thread "My orders" is actually cached for 5 minutes, so I don't think this will have much impact. It's mostly when you are just checking one item here and there where we are now adding extra server trip that was not needed before. CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2012.04.20 20:07:00 -
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Seloena wrote:Karkur, I see everything is ok after your illness :]
I'm pretty sure that you become one of most liked devs, you know that? For sure from the female part of CCP staff : I love you :* sh*t, did i said it out loud
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Again a lot of very good work based on our needs, things that will make our game even more fun. I like the big features and I can't wait the full Incarna iteration, but nothing make us happy like this small things
Well, Explorer, you should be proud of such worker Indeed I am. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Online, CCP Games | Follow on: Twitter / Google+ |
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2012.04.20 20:09:00 -
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Seloena wrote:For sure other people from your team was working also very hard, but they are not communicating with us such as You and Karkur. This is why I would like to thank all your team. Big bravos for all people in your team! Thank you for cool job! Thank you so much for those kind words, and thank you all in return for building with us the wonderful world of New Eden!
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Online, CCP Games | Follow on: Twitter / Google+ |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.20 21:31:00 -
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Sam Bowein wrote:2.001.828.461.545,20 ISK damn Did you get donations as a thanks for all those improvements ? The people who play on my local server just really like me I guess CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2012.04.21 12:28:00 -
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Devore Sekk wrote:Quote:Please note that if you have this option enabled, the market orders might load more slowly at times. The reason is that we are using information from the "My orders" list to know which orders are yours and that list needs to be fetched regularly from the server. This is interesting. Putting on my backseat driver hat, would it not be more efficient to modify the market details query to fetch another column that the server would flag if a record belongs to the player? (I assume sending character ids for ALL orders would be troublesome, never expose to the client information that is not mean for display, because someone WILL hack it.) This does probably require to modify the protocol, and not just the UI, but would remove the need for another trip to the server. That could completely tank the market performance.
The results of the market queries are heavily cached throughout the cluster; and we can cache the results because all players get the exact same response when they ask for orders for a particular type in a particular region. If we start tailoring the responses for each player by adding a player-specific column then the caching doesn't work anymore, or rather we could only cache per (player, type, region) triplet instead of the (type, region) pair. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Online, CCP Games | Follow on: Twitter / Google+ |
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2012.04.21 20:39:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Could be done mostly client side too. Client-side loops over server calls is not nice at all (and client-side loops over DB calls is a performance killer). This should be implemented such that information is sent to the server with then a minimum amount of client/server back-and-forth communication following.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Online, CCP Games | Follow on: Twitter / Google+ |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.23 15:12:00 -
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Misanth wrote: WHAT THE HELL IS SCROLLS? I like to see myself as an avid gamer. From the Atari2600 in early 80's, pen and paper RPG, board games, programming Basic and later C/C++, for a while GM in a small MMO, fulltime gamer for a decade, Mud- and textbased adventure pioneer on private BBS using don't-remember-how-******-modem for the Amiga500, played most bigger MMO-titles on the market, *gasps for air*.. ..but scrolls? Mouse wheel scrolls? I find that hard to fit with the text. Scrolls, like spell-scrolls in RPGs? There's no such thing in EVE, closest would be BPC but that seems completely irrelevant in these subjects, and very confusing?
haha, I'm sorry...obviously I mean stuff that scrolls ....We always just talk about scrolls, and I guess I just assumed people knew what I meant by "scroll". It's basically anything you can get a scroll bar on.
Examples of scrolls: Overview "Browse" tab in market Skill list in charactersheet List of mails in your mail window.
I hope that explains it, if not, I'll give it another go CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.24 20:59:00 -
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Arsanovae wrote:I'll admit from the outset that I understand about 1% of the inherent possibilities coded into the UI.
I did use the tooltips in the Market tab to determine a particular buyers purchase range and adjust my price/ range to compete when buying. Now that it's gone I have no idea how to find a buyers purchase range. Can I turn the tooltips back on or is there another way for me to get that info in the Market tab?
Without this I don't know how to competitively price a buy order. Thx! Could you explain a little better what you mean, because I don't understand how the tooltips gave you information about the purchase range. I only removed the tooltips that had exactly the same text as the "entry" itself.
CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP RedDawn
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Posted - 2012.04.26 10:06:00 -
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Am I last? Team Avatar |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.27 21:49:00 -
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Elijah Craig wrote:All these changes to the Market screen and the Quickbar in particular are great.
HOWEVER:-
- Will I ever be able to Export my Quickbar settings / content?
I go through all these steps to fill out and customise and build my quickbar content, but on my other PC or Alt account..... its not there.
Can there be an "export / import quickbar" button at the botton next the "New Folder" and it spits out all the content to make it available for Importing on another account / PC? to be honest, I want to add that... so maybe one day it will happen but don't expect it soon because I don't really have that much time now to add it. CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.27 21:58:00 -
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Zifrian wrote:Can you please comment on the above or whether changes to the industry/S&I UI are even being considered? I can't say that I've heard that changes to S&I are being planned, but I've heard some people express interest in updating the UI. There are some things in your list that should be fairly easy to change but could improve the experience a fair bit. I'll run through the list when I have some free time, and evaluate what it takes to change those things. CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.27 22:02:00 -
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DrHeinz Doofenshmirtz wrote:Could the Modules Variations be ordered by meta level and not by alphabetical order, for each 'Tech' level.
The alphabetical order is useless -Modules don't follow strict naming conventions. some have apostrophes some don't and it makes the current sort break anyways. ie: E500 Prototype Energy Vampire (why u no heavy) Heavy 'Ghoul' Energy Siphon Heavy 'Knave' ... Heavy Diminishing ... -There's not that many items for each subsection ("Tech") so really alphabetical order isn't needed. Not really true for the officer section, still it would be more useful to know the meta level
If i have to find a Meta4 Variation i have to click show info on every single variation to find out which one is m4. If you think the alphabetical order is important then just add a meta level column, displaying the meta level right there for each module. I realize i could use compare, but it shouldn't be needed just to find out which version is the meta 4 one, compare is awesome but it's also slow.
good point, I'll add it to my list to check out
CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.27 22:30:00 -
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Arsanovae wrote:I actually liked having the tooltips. It helped me keep my desktop neater. Now I'll have to reconfigure my desktop. Unfortunately there is no way to scroll sideways in any window to see headings that are off-screen. And you can't move headings around. I can only reduce the size of the fixed heading which also reduces the information I get see. I can put the windows on top of one another but then there is a lot of up and down scrolling to see all the orders then. I want to see as much info as possible without scrolling.
Anyway, I for one would like to see tooltips back. One vote here. Thx for all the hard work btw. I especially like that I can mark my orders with a color. It's helpful. I'm sorry, I think it's very unlikely that they are making a return in the market, as a lot of people where annoyed that the tooltip covered the info they were trying to see.
Maybe you don't want to let your windows overlap, but maybe something like this could work for you:- make the wallet as narrow as possible
- make the market window a little bit wider than it-¦s now and place it on top the wallet (a little bit more to the right though) so all you can see in your wallet orders is the name of type
- as you want to work on the orders, double click them in the wallet to bring up the market details
- in the market window, see your order in blue, and how it compares to what others are offering, and make your changes from there.
just an idea CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.28 17:24:00 -
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Creat Posudol wrote:Mock-up time! Made you a photoshop! I have a suggestion about the "My Orders"-Window. It's not particularly optimized for smaller displays, and some arrangements aren't logical. Here is a screenshot (with some red highlights of unused space and actual display problems at small window sizes), and a mock-up of the screenshot, how it could look without much effort. Original (Screenshot): http://postimage.org/image/sjik7minl/Improved (Mock-up): http://postimage.org/image/k0kwirxvp/The window in the screenshot has the minimal width possible for the window, that was the starting point. I obviously didn't measure anything exactly (or bother aligning text or something like that), but you can clearly see that there is an extra column visible at almost exactly the same window width. The mock-up is only slightly higher by 30 pixels (if you crop the mock-up at the bottom, which I forgot). Obviously "Selling" and "Buying" are much wider than they are high, hence it saves a lot of space placing them above their respective tables. Please note the rearranged statistics below the actual orders. Now all static values (derived directly from skills) are on the right, all dynamic values (order amount, ISK in escrow/sell/buy) on the left. The "Additional to cover" text is actually readable, being an extra line and all. There were 2 unused lines on one column previously, now there's only 1. The only thing I didn't know where to put it was the "export" button, so it's at the top here, but I'm sure there's a better place for it somehow. Yeah, you are right, there is a lot of wasted space there (I've already had a few conversations about it with my co-workers).
I don't think this would solve the issue with all the numbers at the bottom, and even if it magically worked for English, it probably wouldn''t work for all language. To be honest, when I get a defect on display issues there, my reply is that this just needs to be redesigned and it's not worth it to try to fix the overlapping.. but maybe we could move the "BUY"/"SELL" headers even though it does not fix the overlapping... I'll put it on my list of things to consider
Thanks for taking the time to mock it up (the most natural place for the "export" button would be in a "bottom banner" like we have all over EVE)
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.04.30 09:28:00 -
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TheSmokingHertog wrote:Why does the order management right click on your own order within the market window not have an Cancel option? I thought it was a bit "dangerous" to have it there, not something you want to click by accident, and would have to go the orders list to do so. Do you feel it should be there? CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.05.28 20:09:00 -
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Killajoules wrote:Two feature requests please!
1. Ability to Drag n' Drop tutorials from the help menu into chat (to better help newbros) I love this idea... let's do it! CCP karkur | UI Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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CCP karkur
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Posted - 2012.06.13 08:49:00 -
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Jagoff Haverford wrote:Can we please have this functionality restored to the inventory?
Yes, we'll fix it
CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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