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Kaela Arthropod
Wyrd Sisters
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Posted - 2012.04.21 07:55:00 -
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Kossaw wrote:Navigator,
You need to take this up with Sony. It's pretty disappointing to be an Eve Fan, to be a Fan-Fest Attendee, to have been waitng for months for access to the beta, to be really excited about it .....
And then have Sony hand out Beta keys to a bunch of people who dont give a s***t about your product.
Reminding us all here that others are breaking the NDA, when most of us dont have acess to the beta just rubs salt into the wound.
Sony's decision to bypass CCP and give acess to non eve players does leave a bitter taste.
Its not about 'Eve players getting a hands on to the new product', you seem to misunderstand, it is about INCOME GENERATION and I bet a full five that Sony and CCP have already discussed and agreed a path forward, and hey, if that didn't include letting you get your greedy mitts on the gear, well tough luck, man up kid.
CCP and Sony are using a product they own to create an income stream for thier shareholders and it has nothing to do with you, the goons or any other player. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong White-Lotus
555
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Posted - 2012.04.21 08:04:00 -
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Shiro Sudoku wrote:
I really hope that is the case cause the Beta videos are pure face palm material.
Dude yeah I know : ( |
Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
480
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Posted - 2012.04.21 10:03:00 -
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CCP Navigator, I'm sad to see you scolding the EVE playerbase over the video leaks when none of us are even able to leak the info even if we wanted to. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Xander Blackwell
Blackwell Industries IMPERIAL LEGI0N
2
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Posted - 2012.04.21 11:02:00 -
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CCP WE DONT HAVE ACCESS TO DUST..... come on guys this is embarrassing. I am embarrassed for you.... Sort us out beta keys before abusing us.... glad to know who is most important to CCP though. PSN over EvE |
Whatisthis Idon'teven
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.21 12:27:00 -
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Maybe if CCP had ever actually enforced a 'permanent' ban in the past and stuck to it, the threat of it might be taken seriously.
As it stands, because of the lack of commitment to rule enforcement throughout TQ and SiSi it's no wonder people are ignoring the NDA as just another set of CCP 'suggestions' rather than rules.
To be clear, how many days does a 'permanent' ban mean this time? |
Baneken
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate
105
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Posted - 2012.04.21 13:02:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:ITT: WAAAAAA I'M AN EVE PLAYER WAAAAAAA THAT SHOULD GIVE ME SPECIAL PRIVILIGES WAAAAAAAA
Grow the hell up, the lot of you.
This and on the other hand giving keys to everyone does give a more accurate info on the games overall appeal even if the testing quality might suffer compared to a public beta collected entirely from a fan base. |
Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
119
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Posted - 2012.04.21 13:51:00 -
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Baneken wrote:Stitcher wrote:TL;DR - HTFU. This and on the other hand giving keys to everyone does give a more accurate info on the games overall appeal even if the testing quality might suffer compared to a public beta collected entirely from a fan base.
This, and DUST simply isn't aimed at existing EVE players. The entire point of it is to bring more players into New Eden from a completely different demographic, not to pander to the existing community.
CCP need to know that the game has appeal for and is accessible to people who aren't already part of the established community. They're not going to achieve that by throwing around beta keys like gratitude candy to every butthurt forum brat who unfairly and inaccurately accuses them of "neglect".
What I take from the leaked beta videos is that a vocal component to the information screens might be a good idea. Right now people are like "ugh, tutorial window CLOSE." and then spend five minutes trying to upgrade a skill that they don't have enough SP for or which is already at level five, whilst ignoring the green and red numbers that are supposed to let them know what is and isn't possible, and even ignore the error message they get every time.
An unskippable but short AURA announcement to accompany the error message might help. you know, something like "You do not have enough stored Skill Points to afford this skill level"[/i] in the same bored tone of voice that we hear "you are unable to warp because you are warp scrambled.". Maybe if they do it ten times AURA could get bitchy and be like "I assume that you must have ignored the tutorial window I helpfully displayed for you when you first attempted to access this feature. Would you like to refresh your memory? An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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deart laves
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.21 13:59:00 -
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hahahahahahahahahaha, so i sit here impatiently waiting for dust 514. waiting and waiting for the beta to start, thinking to myself that by the time CCP actually get's around to doing it E3 will be here. then as i'm logging in to eve i see the news posted about the nda and follow the link where i read this thread about how people who barely even know of the game are getting in......to that i say ROFLMAO. |
gaszy mexican
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.04.21 15:41:00 -
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so there leaving this posted about the nda when it seems non of the eve players here have got in and its the playstation plus guys messing up the nda and stuffs ....
CCP SORT YOUR SH~T OUT SON!
we the people who been to fanfest cant redeem the damn code given to us via the site you told us to use!
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Domin Mitauchi
NOMAD. RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2012.04.21 15:50:00 -
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Like many of you I have been waiting for Dust for over 3 years now. With the release of the Sony Beta keys I understand it can be quite frustrating. It seems that Sony and CCP most likely have a shared database for key distribution so that they do not send keys to the same people when it came time to actually release them. Unfortunately it is my belief that Sony may of prematurely sent out the keys to 5000 random PS3 users. The database of beta testers most likely noted all of us who signed up for keys from CCP and made sure that we were excluded from the randomized list. This system would most likely be in place so that they did not send keys out to the same people twice.
Most of you may not care either way but I think it is important mention this for the following reasons:
1. I truly believe that with all the PR of Fanfest, CCP would never intentionally allow another beta group to get into the game before the Fanfest attendees. They did after all state that Fanfest attendees would be the first ones to beta DUST 514 and I do think it is important to CCP, as it should be for anyone interested in DUST, that it gain support within the Eve Community and be successful.
2. Every beta tester that I know of that has received a key has a PlayStation but did not sign up for the beta through CCP as they do not have an Eve Account. There may be the odd case where someone has received a key and has signed up on the CCP account management interface, but I have yet to find one.
3. Without going to so far to break the NDA the information on the mail received was not accurate. I really can not go into details here as I am not sure what falls under the NDA and what does not, but the information I received illustrates that dates and general information regarding the beta was malformed and did not accurately reflect testing dates, server times etc. This leads me to believe that the whole release by Sony was more accidental than a planed release. CCP not wanting to cause waves really can not just come out and say that. So here we sit in our current situation.
Just my theory but it makes sense.
PS - To CCP hopefully anything I said does not violate your NDA as I haven't received a key yet and would very much still like one when you get everything straightened out. "We are everywhere for your conveince"
www.riseoflegion.com
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Doctor Caprician
Laurentian Abyss
0
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Posted - 2012.04.21 15:56:00 -
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So, if I'm understanding this correctly:
- The player base that wants beta access but cannot have it yet is being warned due to the activities of those who do have (But probably shouldn't, since they're most likely *not* the EVE player base anyway but instead random PSN users) it.
- The entity that gave out beta invites, and did so with apparently as much concern for the NDA as a politician has for the truth, isn't even CCP but is in fact Sony. Yet CCP is the one handing out the warnings despite the fact that those responsible for the violations made an agreement through Sony and it should be Sony throwing ban hammers at PSN accounts, not the other way around.
- The target audience for this admonishment most likely wont ever see it since, as previously stated, they're not EVE players but are instead PSN users and most likely don't even know this forum/thread exists. That alone renders the entire thread, and quite possibly my own reply to it, moot.
Did I get all that right? I'm usually pretty quick on the uptake but the level of jackassery here was quite overwhelming.
I have only recently returned to EVE from an extended break and I see a lot has changed. It is refreshing however to see that it is in fact true that no matter how much things change they always remain the same.
Achievement Unlocked: A legendary amount of ridiculousness!
Doc. C. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
229
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Posted - 2012.04.21 15:59:00 -
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Dust? Isn't that a cross between Unreal Tournament, Deus Ex and with some EVE missiles? I already have those games, thanks. |
gaszy mexican
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.04.21 16:01:00 -
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looks like im gonna be spamming twitter all day what fun . |
Doctor Caprician
Laurentian Abyss
1
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Posted - 2012.04.21 16:06:00 -
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Domin Mitauchi wrote:Like many of you I have been waiting for Dust for over 3 years now. With the release of the Sony Beta keys I understand it can be quite frustrating. It seems that Sony and CCP most likely have a shared database for key distribution so that they do not send keys to the same people when it came time to actually release them. Unfortunately it is my belief that Sony may of prematurely sent out the keys to 5000 random PS3 users. The database of beta testers most likely noted all of us who signed up for keys from CCP and made sure that we were excluded from the randomized list. This system would most likely be in place so that they did not send keys out to the same people twice.
Most of you may not care either way but I think it is important mention this for the following reasons:
1. I truly believe that with all the PR of Fanfest, CCP would never intentionally allow another beta group to get into the game before the Fanfest attendees. They did after all state that Fanfest attendees would be the first ones to beta DUST 514 and I do think it is important to CCP, as it should be for anyone interested in DUST, that it gain support within the Eve Community and be successful.
Yet those who attended Fanfest actually weren't the first ones invited to the beta, so there's that.
Domin Mitauchi wrote:2. Every beta tester that I know of that has received a key has a PlayStation but did not sign up for the beta through CCP as they do not have an Eve Account. There may be the odd case where someone has received a key and has signed up on the CCP account management interface, but I have yet to find one.
If everyone you know who got a beta key has a PSN account but not an EVE/CCP account then what is the basis for your "CCP/Sony shared database" theory? The only way Sony would have my CCP info in order to send me a key would be if CCP gave it to them, which I didn't authorize. It would work the other way around too, from Sony to CCP.
Domin Mitauchi wrote:3. Without going to so far to break the NDA the information on the mail received was not accurate. I really can not go into details here as I am not sure what falls under the NDA and what does not, but the information I received illustrates that dates and general information regarding the beta was malformed and did not accurately reflect testing dates, server times etc. This leads me to believe that the whole release by Sony was more accidental than a planed release. CCP not wanting to cause waves really can not just come out and say that. So here we sit in our current situation.
Just my theory but it makes sense.
PS - To CCP hopefully anything I said does not violate your NDA as I haven't received a key yet and would very much still like one when you get everything straightened out.
Um, what?
You state you received some sort of mail that restricts your ability to go into deep detail, implying an NDA is place regarding your statements. You then say you have not yet received an invitation into the beta, thereby negating any potential NDA governing your comments.
Which is it?
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Chimz Domsathanas
Hedion University Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:27:00 -
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Kossaw wrote:Navigator,
You need to take this up with Sony. It's pretty disappointing to be an Eve Fan, to be a Fan-Fest Attendee, to have been waitng for months for access to the beta, to be really excited about it .....
And then have Sony hand out Beta keys to a bunch of people who dont give a s***t about your product.
Reminding us all here that others are breaking the NDA, when most of us dont have acess to the beta just rubs salt into the wound.
Sony's decision to bypass CCP and give acess to non eve players does leave a bitter taste.
couldn't have said it any better myself. great post |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
231
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:54:00 -
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So learn to be patient and wait for the game along with everybody else.
Beta testing is not a free ticket to playing a game early. it is to TEST. You all sound like you just want to fluff about playing a game before everybody else and get an "I'm Spewcial" hat. |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
629
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Posted - 2012.04.21 18:29:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote:CCP Navigator, I'm sad to see you scolding the EVE playerbase over the video leaks when none of us are even able to leak the info even if we wanted to.
Aye, seems rather ackward doesn't it.
Then again where else would they post it. Dust webpage is rather bad (no forum, bad spelling/punctuation, etc).
Perhaps they think all the randomly selected dust testers will flock to this forum. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Deriah Book
Fox Clan Inari Kimon
11
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Posted - 2012.04.21 18:42:00 -
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Shepard Book wrote:Please Ban them and give the keys to those that are mature enough to do what they agree to. I am available Yes. We Books are mature. Still burly. But of advanced years.
Browncoats.... FTW |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
231
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Posted - 2012.04.21 18:52:00 -
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Dust is gona flop anyway, why get in a hissy fit over it?
Come back later and tell me I am wrong :P
Question is, what happens to CCP if Dust does flop? Seems to me they are banking on it not flopping, otherwise they are DUST. |
Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
482
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Posted - 2012.04.21 19:00:00 -
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Domin Mitauchi wrote:3. Without going to so far to break the NDA the information on the mail received was not accurate. I really can not go into details here as I am not sure what falls under the NDA and what does not, but the information I received illustrates that dates and general information regarding the beta was malformed and did not accurately reflect testing dates, server times etc. This leads me to believe that the whole release by Sony was more accidental than a planed release. CCP not wanting to cause waves really can not just come out and say that. So here we sit in our current situation.
Just my theory but it makes sense.
PS - To CCP hopefully anything I said does not violate your NDA as I haven't received a key yet and would very much still like one when you get everything straightened out. You can't break and NDA unless you sign/accept it. So unless you are in the closed beta you have not signed a thing yet.
The mail you most likely are referring to was posted on a random ps3 forum including beta key and everything. The interesting part is that it stated May 17th for the beta while it actually happened a month earlier. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
232
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Posted - 2012.04.21 19:14:00 -
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The NDA is worthless outside the country of origin. I bet you could even then use Severability to shred half of it as unenforceable clauses due to overreaching or being too vaguely/broad worded or just plan breach of existing laws. Regardless, electronic signatures are worthless too. Checkboxes do not mean agreement or proceeding with various actions does not mean agreement. There is so many ways in which it is as useful as a piece of toilet paper. Well, toilet paper has more applications depending on the ply count. |
Cailais
Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance
253
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Posted - 2012.04.21 19:42:00 -
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Good start.
:ccp:
C. |
Celebris Nexterra
Lowsec Static
42
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Posted - 2012.04.21 20:06:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Din Tempre wrote:A month or two might not seem like a lot, but some of us have been following dust for years. You seem to be assuming that I haven't. Believe me, I have. And believe me, I want to get an email inviting me to play the beta as much as you. Unlike you, I haven't translated my enthusiasm into a sense of entitlement and bratty impatience. The Beta is a testing tool, and an important one that's there to iron out kinks in the game before it's released. It's not a zarking reward scheme. Astonishingly, one of the most important demographics that CCP will be wanting to get feedback on DUST from are people who aren't already emotionally invested in EVE Online, and who haven't been waiting patiently for DUST for a couple of years. The people who can give it a reasonably fair and unbiased opinion rather than fangasming all over it, in other words. Being a paying EVE customer is ALREADY giving you privileged access in the form of Mordu's Private Trials and Fanfest beta keys. It's just not giving you immediate, right-this-second privileged access which is what you and so many other people seem to want. Cultivate some patience. you've already waited a couple of years - what's another month going to harm you?
Actually, it's the complete opposite. I have been following DUST since its inception and that first highly vague trailer, since before basically any information had been released about it. I have since followed all announcements about it and all videos posted of gameplay. You suggest that our experience with EVE and attention to DUST's ongoing development biases our opinion in a way that would hurt the validity of the beta, but I say nay. The fact that we know how EVE works, how sov mechanics work, how FiS mechanics work, and that we know the purpose for DUST, means we would have more applicable questions/suggestions. If we see something in DUST that could potentially break game balance for FiS, we could call that out, because we know how FiS works. Random people don't. Additionally, I won't have a "fangasm" over DUST unless it's actually as good as it's been hyped up to be, as good as I expect it to be. My expectations aren't lower because I've followed DUST for 2 years, they're higher. Much higher.
And you said "Being a paying EVE customer is ALREADY giving you privileged access..." That's exactly the point. We (and myself in particular) signed up for that closed beta minutes after the devblog was posted with the link, and the vast majority of us didn't get into the beta. No one is claiming more of a sense of entitlement than that. We didn't start that; CCP did when they offered (possible) closed beta keys exclusively to EVE players with that first devblog. It's more of being let down than feeling entitled. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong White-Lotus
556
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Posted - 2012.04.21 20:26:00 -
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Celebris Nexterra wrote:Stitcher wrote:Din Tempre wrote:A month or two might not seem like a lot, but some of us have been following dust for years. You seem to be assuming that I haven't. Believe me, I have. And believe me, I want to get an email inviting me to play the beta as much as you. Unlike you, I haven't translated my enthusiasm into a sense of entitlement and bratty impatience. The Beta is a testing tool, and an important one that's there to iron out kinks in the game before it's released. It's not a zarking reward scheme. Astonishingly, one of the most important demographics that CCP will be wanting to get feedback on DUST from are people who aren't already emotionally invested in EVE Online, and who haven't been waiting patiently for DUST for a couple of years. The people who can give it a reasonably fair and unbiased opinion rather than fangasming all over it, in other words. Being a paying EVE customer is ALREADY giving you privileged access in the form of Mordu's Private Trials and Fanfest beta keys. It's just not giving you immediate, right-this-second privileged access which is what you and so many other people seem to want. Cultivate some patience. you've already waited a couple of years - what's another month going to harm you? Actually, it's the complete opposite. I have been following DUST since its inception and that first highly vague trailer, since before basically any information had been released about it. I have since followed all announcements about it and all videos posted of gameplay. You suggest that our experience with EVE and attention to DUST's ongoing development biases our opinion in a way that would hurt the validity of the beta, but I say nay. The fact that we know how EVE works, how sov mechanics work, how FiS mechanics work, and that we know the purpose for DUST, means we would have more applicable questions/suggestions. If we see something in DUST that could potentially break game balance for FiS, we could call that out, because we know how FiS works. Random people don't. Additionally, I won't have a "fangasm" over DUST unless it's actually as good as it's been hyped up to be, as good as I expect it to be. My expectations aren't lower because I've followed DUST for 2 years, they're higher. Much higher. And you said "Being a paying EVE customer is ALREADY giving you privileged access..." That's exactly the point. We (and myself in particular) signed up for that closed beta minutes after the devblog was posted with the link, and the vast majority of us didn't get into the beta. No one is claiming more of a sense of entitlement than that. We didn't start that; CCP did when they offered (possible) closed beta keys exclusively to EVE players with that first devblog. It's more of being let down than feeling entitled.
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UnknownHuman
Aliastra Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.04.21 23:59:00 -
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The good news is; by the sounds on the videos of those who leaked Dust, they seem to rather enjoy themselves with a pre-fanfest version of the game.
I think it is safe to say a good chunk of those testers do not play Eve Online.
That being said, this is an Eve Online forum and not a Dust 514 forum. So the message isn't properly addressed to the SONY testers since I don't think they'd come here just to read about the NDA.
I think it is sweet of the core Eve players to point out in the comments on youtube to remind those of the NDA. Now please give the keys to those worthy of it!
So lets not focus on what CCP may or may not have done wrong here and focus on why the Eve community is awesome!
Kaplaa!
-Unk |
Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
119
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Posted - 2012.04.22 01:50:00 -
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Celebris Nexterra wrote:Actually, it's the complete opposite. I have been following DUST since its inception and that first highly vague trailer, since before basically any information had been released about it... I have since followed all announcements about it and all videos posted of gameplay.
You mean Torfi's "TotalHellDeath" video from that Fanfest Keynote speech? Yeah, I was in the front row.
Here's the thing. trying to demonstrate that you have the biggest fanboy hardon for DUST is infantile, not impressive. A lot of people have been following this thing from the moment the first breadcrumbs were thrown. You're not unique in your enthusiasm, nor does being the BIGGEST DUST FAN EVAR entitle you to special treatment.
Quote:You suggest that our experience with EVE and attention to DUST's ongoing development biases our opinion in a way that would hurt the validity of the beta, but I say nay. The fact that we know how EVE works, how sov mechanics work, how FiS mechanics work, and that we know the purpose for DUST, means we would have more applicable questions/suggestions.
You're missing the point. They don't yet need feedback on sov mechanics and how the game impacts FiS right now. I guarantee you that those are among the things to which they've given the most serious thought, in fact. Us EVE veterans are, at the moment, less likely to have valuable feedback for them next to the feedback from the much, MUCH larger target audience of people who are not EVE veterans.
Sure, CCP will almost certainly want to hear the veterans' opinions on the things you mentioned. But what they want and need most at the moment is to know whether or not somebody with no prior experience of EVE Online can pick up the game and get their bearings quickly because if their New Player Experience isn't up to scratch then that's the first priority to get fixed.
For example, you are familiar with the idea of a skill having a maximum of five levels. Somebody completely new to the setting won't be, and CCP will want to know, among other things, whether or not that maximum is made clear enough to avoid people getting confused and complaining about not being able to skill up.
Quote:And you said "Being a paying EVE customer is ALREADY giving you privileged access..." That's exactly the point. We (and myself in particular) signed up for that closed beta minutes after the devblog was posted with the link, and the vast majority of us didn't get into the beta.
"And myself in particular?" Okay, I'll come back to that in a second, but before I do... Have you never heard of the word "yet" before? You are not in the beta YET.
YET.
Quote:yet (/yet/) Adverb: Up until the present or an unspecified or implied time; by now or then: "I haven't left yet".
Quote:No one is claiming more of a sense of entitlement than that.
Remember that "and myself in particular" bit? As if you're somehow the super special princess snowflake pony and CCP should be worshipping you and combing your mane?
"Oh, it's okay. I don't have a sense of entitlement. I just want my nice gift RIGHT NOW. I'm owed it because I am more excited for DUST than you are."
Let me tell you what you're actually entitled to:
The service you are buying from CCP is access to Tranquility and play time in EVE Online. that's it. That's all your money is good for, and all they're legally obliged to give you under the terms of the contract between company and customer. Things like anniversary handouts, beta keys, fanfest goodies and so on? they're gifts. Perks. bonuses. CCP being nice and giving us stuff that we didn't actually pay for because they're good people like that.
And you're throwing a tantrum because you weren't the first kid to sit on Santa's lap this year.
Let me be perfectly clear: YOU HAVE NOT BEEN LET DOWN.
Sure, if the game actually goes to full release without any EVE player ever getting into the beta, THEN we'll have been let down. THEN it would be reasonable to complain.
Right now what's happening is that the first wave of the beta has started, you weren't lucky enough to get in on it, and so you're raging. Can't you see how childish that is? An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Dilaro thagriin
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
35
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Posted - 2012.04.22 02:28:00 -
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Hehaw Jimbojohnson wrote:Seriously? Why would you send out beta keys to random Playstation Plus members, most of which have probably never heard of EVE, if there is an NDA in place? You really think most console gamers are going to read/expect an NDA for a game they likely got a random invite to that they neither requested nor expected?
Right.... i see your mistake...
you're asking CCP to answer for something done by SOE ...
you understand of course that, in essence, that's like asking microsoft to explain why your linux installation is not working the way you want it to?
you have an issue with how Sony handled giving out these beta keys, TAKE IT UP WITH SONY... it's not like CCP sent them out.
Yeesh. Give navigator and co a break guys. Sony messed up. to cover things from CCP's end, navigator made a post on this forum to reach the number of eve subscribers who may be affected by this. it was not only prudent but right for him to have done so.
while i haven't checked, i'm sure that a simillar message has been put on the DUST forums, and probably on the Beta forum itself.
quit whining. wait for your turn to join the beta, and in the meantime keep playing the games that are already released, whether they be console, mac or PC.
oh, and stitcher... +1 lol |
Valkerias
Society of Friends
0
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Posted - 2012.04.22 12:21:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Getting mad because a promise made to you was broken and then YOU were yelled at because someone else is breaking the toy YOU were promised is childish. GROW UP AND QUIT WHINING, YEESH!
Umm, OK. Seriously, I couldn't care less about DUST. I am no fan of FPS games, but when a company makes promises to its subscribers, note: "Go to fanfest, get the key become the FIRST to beta test" and then we find out that the subcontracted company, SONY, is seemingly, NOT honoring its agreements and giving out keys to 5000 random people while NOT honoring the fanfest keys is bad enough.
To then come onto the EVE forums and start shaking the BAN HAMMER at the player base, which didn't even get the keys, because of the actions of SONY players/ execs, is really beyond the pale.
It's getting harder and harder to actually promote this company to others.
"The tax on custom offices in concord space will be DOUBLED" means "the costs will explode exponentially because we are now adding market value to the calculations." (In other words, DOUBLE means "multiplied by whatever number we feel like.)
"Pos fuels should be converted into blocks in about a week, traditional fuels will no longer work after this" means "keep traditional fuels in the towers for up to a month while we work everything out."
I could go on, but I trust you get the point.
It's not about "ME PLAY EVE! GIVE ME MOAR STUFF! RAAARRRGGGG!"
It's "Hey! You said one thing, and are doing something else, and now you're yelling at US about it!" |
Peter Powers
FinFleet Raiden.
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this might be a stupid question but - i received a beta key during fanfest, but i still have no clue where to enter it - where do i enter it? |
Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2012.04.22 13:30:00 -
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Peter Powers wrote:this might be a stupid question but - i received a beta key during fanfest, but i still have no clue where to enter it - where do i enter it? The instruction is written on the piece of paper with the key. However the FanFest trial isn't open for another week or so which is why the webpage only showing a coming soonGäó banner for now.
The NDA breaching people mentioned in this thread are using the Sony distributed keys so completely different. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
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