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Dato Koppla
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.21 01:19:00 -
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I know similar topics have been made, but this isn't for discussion, I just want to know how many trained BC V and Dessie V (with the prereqs for every race) just because of the upcoming skill split and possible HUGE sp giveaway tied to the whole "if you can fly it now, you can fly it post patch" notion. I know I did.
Also want to know who doesn't have BC/Dessie V and didn't immediately start training them the second the caught wind of the changes. Bittervets obviously already have both and probably all Cruiser/Frigate V. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.21 03:14:00 -
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I don't have either to V yet, but I have more than enough time to do so before the expansion. There are other things I want to get to first. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window. |
Alexsei Volkov
Order Of Black Knights Infinitus Cupio
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Posted - 2012.04.21 08:23:00 -
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Des V finishes in a few hours... about a month for BC V... In the middle of my CHA/WILL remap. |
Alice Saki
Analog Folk SRS.
86
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Posted - 2012.04.21 08:42:00 -
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I was gonna but I got it 2 4 and well wanted other stuff done xD http://tinyurl.com/RifterDeath My Rifter Adventure in Null |
Boomhaur
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Posted - 2012.04.21 09:14:00 -
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I trained up dessie V, already had BC V. Feel almost like a traitor for training the dessie skill past 1, but they buffed those ships so I guess I have to let my hatred for those things go, even though years ago it was a favorite past time to pop dessies in a frigate, still hold a perfect record of never losing to one too. Lost count how many I downed back than on my pirate alt. |
Frank Millar
The Corporation Incorporated The Revolution.
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Posted - 2012.04.21 09:34:00 -
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Battlecruisers V is currently in the queue, yes. If there's time, I'll pop in Destroyers V too.
Luckily, I'm on a PER/WIL mapping as well. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.04.21 09:54:00 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:I know similar topics have been made, but this isn't for discussion, I just want to know how many trained BC V and Dessie V (with the prereqs for every race) just because of the upcoming skill split and possible HUGE sp giveaway tied to the whole "if you can fly it now, you can fly it post patch" notion. I know I did.
Also want to know who doesn't have BC/Dessie V and didn't immediately start training them the second the caught wind of the changes. Bittervets obviously already have both and probably all Cruiser/Frigate V.
I trained both of those in...2008? Maybe 2007.
I guess the point being BC 5 should be an early priority anyway, and Destroyers 5 too if you live in null. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Ank Parkor
WildSpace Otters
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Posted - 2012.04.21 10:52:00 -
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BC V will be done tomorrow. Dessies aren't on my to do list.
Short time trader, short term missionner, long term ambitions. |
Sunviking
The Shining Knights
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Posted - 2012.04.21 13:15:00 -
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Ank Parkor wrote:BC V will be done tomorrow. Dessies aren't on my to do list.
I'm in the same position. I really don't want to touch Destroyers, but I almost feel compelled to train lvl 5 seeing as I am coming to the end of a Perc/Will remap. |
Pyrosomniac
VC Academy
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Posted - 2012.04.21 14:59:00 -
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I already did, with no regrets.
I regularly use Destroyers and Battlecruisers, and feel I have invested my time well.
I'm currently training the cruisers to 4, then the battleships and their guns to 4 for all races, so I should be capable to fly everything except missile boats for the summer. |
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MissileClub
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:47:00 -
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Destroyers 5 finished last night, and BC 5 was the skill before that. |
Elmanketticks
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.21 18:04:00 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:...just because of the upcoming skill split and possible HUGE sp giveaway tied to the whole "if you can fly it now, you can fly it post patch" notion...
please elaborate on that sp giveaway. I've not yet heard of this. FOR THE STATE! |
Mister Crispy
AC Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.04.21 19:14:00 -
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Did BC V, will complete Destroyers V in a few hours. I was in the middle of training leadership skills too...
Elmanketticks wrote:Dato Koppla wrote:...just because of the upcoming skill split and possible HUGE sp giveaway tied to the whole "if you can fly it now, you can fly it post patch" notion... please elaborate on that sp giveaway. I've not yet heard of this.
It's a combination of "we are changing the 'destroyers' skill to 'Amarr destroyer,' 'Caldari destroyer,' 'Minmatar destroyer,' and 'Gallente destroyer'" and "if you could fly it before the change, you'll be able to fly it after the change." |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
563
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Posted - 2012.04.21 19:16:00 -
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I'll be in my new Nighthawk Tuesday morning. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
563
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Posted - 2012.04.21 19:17:00 -
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Elmanketticks wrote:Dato Koppla wrote:...just because of the upcoming skill split and possible HUGE sp giveaway tied to the whole "if you can fly it now, you can fly it post patch" notion... please elaborate on that sp giveaway. I've not yet heard of this.
Nice troll attempt, but he uses the word "possible" in referring to the SP reimbursement. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Elmanketticks
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.21 19:42:00 -
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so since I've BC on V since years and Des on IV, I should prolly go for Des V now? FOR THE STATE! |
Nicholas Tong
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.21 21:56:00 -
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So the current most possible action they can take is give us all 5 BC/ Dessie skills as long we have the requirements, so for those now currently training those would mean they're getting a 4x SP ratio in the future? That doesn't seem right.
Not like I'm training them right now as a gamble tho, don't feel like they are they can be so generous as previously stated. |
Jack Miton
Lapse Of Sanity Exhale.
194
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Posted - 2012.04.22 02:38:00 -
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Ive trained BC 5 on all my combat toons and dessie 5 on 2. free SP ftw. |
Dato Koppla
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.22 03:24:00 -
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Nicholas Tong wrote:So the current most possible action they can take is give us all 5 BC/ Dessie skills as long we have the requirements, so for those now currently training those would mean they're getting a 4x SP ratio in the future?
Yeah pretty much what everyone is speculating, and the sp giveout will be huge if it happens that way, which is why many like me ditched their current training schedule to train BC/Dessie V. I had BC already, but I trained Dessie V and also all the prereqs for every race even though I don't fly Destroyers that much they're still useful and the Thrasher alone makes it worthwhile IMO
So from what I can see pretty much everyone is jumping on this bandwagon which will further increase the rage if CCP doesn't end up just giving away SP, which makes it less likely that they will do that ;) |
stoicfaux
957
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Posted - 2012.04.22 03:37:00 -
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Don't forget about Jump Freighters. In theory, as tech 2 ships, the ship revamp will require having racial freighter 5 as a prereq (currently freighter 4 is required.) Assuming that CCP doesn't change their mind, anyone who can fly a jump freighter should get a free bump from racial freighter 4 to freighter 5.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Revman Zim
Babylon Holdings United Interstellar Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.22 08:18:00 -
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I had Desy 5 and BC 5 before the announcement of the upcoming skill tree change.
What I didn't have was the prereq's for all the classes. I am Amarr trained, so I took Caldari, Minny and Gal to Frig 4 and Cruiser 3 to ensure that I met the prereq's to fly the BC's in those races. It only took a 5 day detour from my skill plan so that was worth the chance to "maybe" cash in on 6+ million SP. I am counting on the "if you could fly it before, you will be able to fly it after" statement by CCP.
Just waiting now to see how CCP decides to proceed. |
Darius Brinn
Iberians Iberians.
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Posted - 2012.04.22 10:17:00 -
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I had BC V already, but I did not have Amarr or Caldari ships trained at all.
So this week was spent training Amarr & Caldari frigate IV, Amarr and Caldari cruiser III, and next week Destroyers V will be finished.
If I end up with free SP, good. If not, I consider all this time well spent. Eventually I would have trained Amarr and Caldari, and with the Destroyer buff, a new world of cheap ganking opens before me. Not to mention that Thrashers in 0.0 are fun.
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Clementina
The Scope
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Posted - 2012.04.22 15:29:00 -
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I had Destroyers 5 before the announcement. I switched to training Battlecruisers 5 and finished it a few days ago and also picked up Minmatar Crusiers 3 because of the announcement. I have no intention of flying Amarr, so I didn't train anything towards that.
Anyway, I should read the announcement again. I was planning to train Caldari Freighter eventually anyway and it will take approximately 6 days. But it seems that I should start training it now. |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2012.04.22 16:48:00 -
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To make sure I understand, you only need BC5 and then the racial Desi4 for each race you want to fly correct? This will let you fly a BC for each race you have it for? On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton. -áWhere the dripping patchouli was more than scent. -á It was a sun |
Darius Brinn
Iberians Iberians.
7
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Posted - 2012.04.22 17:12:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:To make sure I understand, you only need BC5 and then the racial Desi4 for each race you want to fly correct? This will let you fly a BC for each race you have it for?
Nope. BC and Destroyer skills have nothing to do with each other.
The thing is: apparently, if you can fly it now, you will be able to fly it with the same level of proficiency AFTER the changes.
So, having BCV and all 4 racial Cruiser skills to III means you can fly all BCs in the game at V. So, IN THEORY, when the changes take place, you will receive ALL FOUR BC skills at V.
With Destroyers is the same > having Destroyers at V and racial frigates at IV means you can fly all Destroyers in the game at max. level of competence, so you're supposed to get FOUR different skills at V after the patch.
So, if you train BC V, Destroyers V, all frigates to IV and all cruisers to III, you are supposed to get:
-Amarr/Caldari/Gallente/Minmatar Destroyer V. -Ammar/Caldari/Gallente/Minmatar Battlecruiser V.
Quite a few million SP for free, as you get three Rank 2 skills to V (around 1.5m SP) and three Rank 6 skills to V (around 4.5 m SP). So, IN THEORY, you could be getting up to six million SP just like that. You cannot redistribute them afterwards, but still a sweet (and fair) deal.
If CCP decides against this, we'd get (at least) the SP from BC V and Destroyer V back, I expect.
So, there's absolutely NOTHING to lose, other than training the racial frigates to IV and the cruisers to III. Which, if you ask me, takes little time and, eventually, most people will think of training. |
Elmanketticks
State Protectorate Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.04.22 17:28:00 -
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Could someone please post a link to this 'announcement' ? I'd like to have that black on white. FOR THE STATE! |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.22 18:29:00 -
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Elmanketticks wrote:Could someone please post a link to this 'announcement' ? I'd like to have that black on white.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=77673&find=unread
Haven't got those skills at V... But I still have time. |
Lady Naween
Good Vs. Neutral Stop Exploding You Cowards
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Posted - 2012.04.22 18:43:00 -
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on my main sure, had for quite some time. working on destroyer 5 on Naween, not that she will ever fly anything but t3s and commandships but you never know. |
Kyros Xero
Xuronautics
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Posted - 2012.04.22 19:15:00 -
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Just finished the trains for myself, and we're offering bonuses to corpmates for everyone who hits the relevant milestones in time. |
Comodore John
Wooly Ltd.
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Posted - 2012.04.22 20:56:00 -
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Best part will be when all those people that trained BC and Dessy to 5 get the 6m extra SP go out to PvP... and got podded with a now out of date clone.
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