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Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services The Possum Lodge
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:29:00 -
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Now that you (CCP) have removed what, over 3,000 botters, where does that put "Bounties" on the relative spectrum of ISK Faucets? I know there were some areas that saw a ten-fold drop in NPC kills after one of the first ban waves this year. In which case, is it not logical to assume the subsequent bounties generated were also significantly decreased?
I bring this up b/c the main objection to nerfing High-sec Incursions was the argument that Incursions was a small % compared to that of Bounties. I'm sure someone at CCP has the knowledge of what the 'new' %'s are for ISK faucets, since there are alot fewer bots farming things now.
Also, in the latest Dev Blog, there is a telling graph at the bottom, i find it hard to say "incursions aren't part of the problem" when looking at what the trends were before and since their introduction.
*gets out marshmallows and waits for flames* |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
351
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:30:00 -
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CCP only has to remove warp to 0 and there will be a massive new isk and mineral sink.
Solve economic problems with violence everyday in EVE. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group Ayn Sof Aur
76
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:32:00 -
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Ya ccp only has to remove what they added because people made so many bookmarks it was killing the server...
Any other bight idiots dimwit? |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
351
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:33:00 -
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supersexysucker wrote:Ya ccp only has to remove what they added because people made so many bookmarks it was killing the server...
Any other bight idiots dimwit?
All you have to do is make it a serious, bannable, offense to make said bookmarks. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
229
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:34:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:supersexysucker wrote:Ya ccp only has to remove what they added because people made so many bookmarks it was killing the server...
Any other bight idiots dimwit? All you have to do is make it a serious, bannable, offense to make said bookmarks.
Yes, I too see CCP removing a feature that was added for very specific reasons and was universally lauded by the playerbase when it was introduced. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
637
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:35:00 -
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Ban bookmarks. Well thought out there skippy. http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose Remove all incursions from hisec |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
351
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:37:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:Ban bookmarks. Well thought out there skippy.
Not every bookmark, just ones that can be used to warp to 0 when you're not allowed to, because warping to 0 would become an exploit.
Also, removing no warp to 0 may be one of the worst design choices in this game. Totally messed up the idea of risk vs reward. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
698
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:37:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:CCP only has to remove warp to 0 and there will be a massive new isk and mineral sink.
Solve economic problems with violence everyday in EVE. Technically no.
It would be a mineral sink and ISK faucet.
Ships go boom which destroys minerals but adds insurance ISK. |
Adacia Calla
The Long Kiss Goodnight
23
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:37:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:supersexysucker wrote:Ya ccp only has to remove what they added because people made so many bookmarks it was killing the server...
Any other bight idiots dimwit? All you have to do is make it a serious, bannable, offense to make said bookmarks. So you want everyone that has bookmarks within 100km of a gate to be banned?
Forums need a "I dislike this post because the poster is stupid." Test signature....forum not applying settings :( |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
351
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:38:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:masternerdguy wrote:CCP only has to remove warp to 0 and there will be a massive new isk and mineral sink.
Solve economic problems with violence everyday in EVE. Technically no. It would be a mineral sink and ISK faucet. Ships go boom which destroys minerals but adds insurance ISK.
It would also be a time sink. By making everything take longer (since you have to burn to the object from 15km instead of landing ontop of it) you reduce everyone's earning power. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
444
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:39:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:CCP only has to remove warp to 0 and there will be a massive new isk and mineral sink.
Solve economic problems with violence everyday in EVE.
Last time I have to read your not thought trough (troll) posts. I.o.w. you are blocked.
Who needs television when you have EVE? EVE drama, best drama. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
315
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:40:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:CCP only has to remove warp to 0 and there will be a massive new isk and mineral sink.
Solve economic problems with violence everyday in EVE.
You fail at trolling because you fail at basic understanding of isk sinks. To the whiners :-áCCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" CCP Recurve "However, Incursions are not the biggest ISK faucet, bounties are"
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
698
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:41:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:masternerdguy wrote:CCP only has to remove warp to 0 and there will be a massive new isk and mineral sink.
Solve economic problems with violence everyday in EVE. Technically no. It would be a mineral sink and ISK faucet. Ships go boom which destroys minerals but adds insurance ISK. It would also be a time sink. By making everything take longer (since you have to burn to the object from 15km instead of landing ontop of it) you reduce everyone's earning power. It would only really effect those who travel a lot, traders, whos income comes from others, not from NPCs.
And would make courier missions even more pointless. |
Yatama Kautsuo
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:42:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:masternerdguy wrote:CCP only has to remove warp to 0 and there will be a massive new isk and mineral sink.
Solve economic problems with violence everyday in EVE. Technically no. It would be a mineral sink and ISK faucet. Ships go boom which destroys minerals but adds insurance ISK. It would also be a time sink. By making everything take longer (since you have to burn to the object from 15km instead of landing ontop of it) you reduce everyone's earning power.
will never happen, next |
Hamshoe
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:48:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:masternerdguy wrote:supersexysucker wrote:Ya ccp only has to remove what they added because people made so many bookmarks it was killing the server...
Any other bight idiots dimwit? All you have to do is make it a serious, bannable, offense to make said bookmarks. Yes, I too see CCP removing a feature that was added for very specific reasons and was universally lauded by the playerbase when it was introduced.
It may be a bad idea for any of a number of reasons, but the idea that the introduction of WTZ was "universally lauded" is trivially false. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
160
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:51:00 -
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Panhead4411 wrote:Now that you (CCP) have removed what, over 3,000 botters, where does that put "Bounties" on the relative spectrum of ISK Faucets? I know there were some areas that saw a ten-fold drop in NPC kills after one of the first ban waves this year. In which case, is it not logical to assume the subsequent bounties generated were also significantly decreased?
I bring this up b/c the main objection to nerfing High-sec Incursions was the argument that Incursions was a small % compared to that of Bounties. I'm sure someone at CCP has the knowledge of what the 'new' %'s are for ISK faucets, since there are alot fewer bots farming things now.
Also, in the latest Dev Blog, there is a telling graph at the bottom, i find it hard to say "incursions aren't part of the problem" when looking at what the trends were before and since their introduction.
*gets out marshmallows and waits for flames*
You are talking about the link http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28612 what is most telling in the third graph is that the T1 price increases were all BEFORE ( leading up to ) the release of Incursins in December 2010. Immediately after that T1 ship prices took a nose dive and actually started deflating in May 2011. With the removal of the mineral faucet of Drone poo I can't possibly believe that mineral & T1 ship prices are going to do the same. To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
423
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Posted - 2012.04.21 17:54:00 -
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Panhead4411 wrote:Now that you (CCP) have removed what, over 3,000 botters, where does that put "Bounties" on the relative spectrum of ISK Faucets? I know there were some areas that saw a ten-fold drop in NPC kills after one of the first ban waves this year. In which case, is it not logical to assume the subsequent bounties generated were also significantly decreased?
I bring this up b/c the main objection to nerfing High-sec Incursions was the argument that Incursions was a small % compared to that of Bounties. I'm sure someone at CCP has the knowledge of what the 'new' %'s are for ISK faucets, since there are alot fewer bots farming things now.
Also, in the latest Dev Blog, there is a telling graph at the bottom, i find it hard to say "incursions aren't part of the problem" when looking at what the trends were before and since their introduction.
*gets out marshmallows and waits for flames*
soooo lets make it so drones dont drop loot AND dont get bounties and rename the drone regions to "noob 0.0"
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.04.21 18:00:00 -
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At OP:
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/eb6/ That which does not kill you, makes you stronger.-á Friedrich Nietzsche
That which does not kill you, hurts like hell.-á UNKNOWN |
Cpt Arareb
Ideal Machine Many Reckless Corps
14
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Posted - 2012.04.21 18:02:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:CCP only has to remove warp to 0 and there will be a massive new isk and mineral sink.
Solve economic problems with violence everyday in EVE.
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MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
259
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Posted - 2012.04.21 18:29:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:masternerdguy wrote:CCP only has to remove warp to 0 and there will be a massive new isk and mineral sink.
Solve economic problems with violence everyday in EVE. Technically no. It would be a mineral sink and ISK faucet. Ships go boom which destroys minerals but adds insurance ISK. It would also be a time sink. By making everything take longer (since you have to burn to the object from 15km instead of landing ontop of it) you reduce everyone's earning power.
People would leave the game rather than waste 15 minutes for absolutely no reason flying around on every mining op, trade flight, mission, etc.... While I understand it would help the pirates at specific points, it would unnecessarily slow the rest of the game down for the large majority of travel where there are no other pilots.
Also, bookmarks would still become necessary because only an idiot would straight warp to 15km from another gate. Even if the mechanic would not allow bookmarks withing 15km, people would have them above, below, and in all directions 15km out from the gate. I don't always finish my commentary, but when I do |
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Voith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
82
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Posted - 2012.04.21 18:34:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:CCP only has to remove warp to 0 and there will be a massive new isk and mineral sink.
Solve economic problems with violence everyday in EVE. Mineral Yes, ISK No.
L2Think baddie. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
161
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Posted - 2012.04.22 18:35:00 -
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I believe that the bounties as a % are going to increase with the addition of prices on the heads of Drones even in the wake of the BOT BANS. IMHO after the Incursion 10% payout nerf we're going to still see spiraling inflation & this will trigger the 10% bounty cut that CCP Soundwave threated in his Ten Ton Hammer interview ( I hope he also includes WH blue loot in this nerf because they are a form of bounties ) It'll be funny watching all the peeps still blaming Incursions for all the inflation after the nerf when they will then be an even smaller portion of the ISK globally in Eve To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
5p4c3 Truck3r
Carried Hate
5
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Posted - 2012.04.22 19:41:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:CCP only has to remove warp to 0 and there will be a massive new isk and mineral sink.
Solve economic problems with violence everyday in EVE.
I would support this if High Sec loses all Concord, Faction Police, Customs Agents, Station and Gate Guns. Also Smart Bombs working at 0 on stations.
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5p4c3 Truck3r
Carried Hate
5
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Posted - 2012.04.22 19:42:00 -
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Oh and Dictiors/Hictors can deploy bubbles and Mobile bubbles are also allowed. |
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