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Grak Yarn
Minmatar Vherokior Forward Progession Group
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Posted - 2009.02.08 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Grak Yarn on 08/02/2009 16:19:48 Mister Jarek, I am pleased and surprised to hear about your planned trip to Pator. This is an unusual thing, possibly unprecedented in the one hundred and twenty or so years of the Republics existence, and I welcome to opportunity for you to come and see your cousins with open arms. However, there are those in the republic who would see this as little more then an invasion, and thus I offer the services of myself and my uncle, Tomaas Yarn, ground based company, Yarn Security Services Inc. ("One hundred years of private protection and counting!") as volunteers to help keep you safe during your trip to our fair Republic. I also offer the Yarn Clan (Of which I am clan chief) as a temporary home to you, or even one of the Yarn Hostel's ("Where the everyman and the elite meet in safety, comfort, and warmth."), a string owned by my father. I look forward to your visit and hope to talk to you in person at some point. I apologize for the public nature of this invitation but I have no other way to contact you, so here is hoping you read the IGS. If your interested, please get into contact with me as soon as you can.
-Grak Pontius-Gallus Havelock Yarn CEO, VFPG Clan Chief, Yarn Clan
P.S. If you require anything to be imported, tell me, I have an aunt who runs an import/export business and can probably get a hold of anything you need. |
Inara Subaka
Caldari the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 18:38:00 -
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Wait, you're not going to cry for the dogs of war to be released so his head can be placed on a pike? Or are you just like the others that have spoken thus far, and are simply attempting to lull a sense of security? Of course to answer that would be rather foolish to admit, so I don't expect an answer.
I'm waiting on some fanatic to kill this traveling religious man, it will only provide to feed fuel to the fire of the Amarrian belief that the Republic is full of uncivilized savages.
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Shern
Minmatar Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.02.08 18:49:00 -
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I doubt the holy man will take up your offer, Grak, but..uh..thanks, I guess, for the good deed of trying to protect a man of God.
P.S I don't think he'll need the help of the import export business. |
Shirley Serious
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.02.08 19:18:00 -
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What will probably happen is that the Republic Security Service will assassinate this preacher, and plant false evidence on him, showing that he was an agent for the Amarr Theology Council.
They will do this, using a patsy, who they will also attempt to arrest, but "bungle" and kill, and plant false evidence on, showing that their patsy was an agent for the Amarr Ministry of Internal Order.
Thereby "demonstrating" to the Republic populace, that "Amarrians" cannot be trusted, that any freemen who say good things about the Empire are "spies" and not to be trusted, that there will be never be peace, and that the only option is for all out war where billions will die.
Yes. Yes, I am. |
Davlos
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:22:00 -
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There's a whole clan of Yarns?
A whole clan of whining, leaning-traitor Vherokior sounds a lot like the end of the world. |
Aria Jenneth
Caldari Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.02.08 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Davlos There's a whole clan of Yarns?
A whole clan of whining, leaning-traitor Vherokior sounds a lot like the end of the world.
Davlos ...
Aside from the whining, for which you famously substitute verbal abuse, and the the "Vherokior" ...
I'm sorry, but how does this differ from a Caldari view on yourself?
Mr. Yarn follows his conscience, as apparently do you. I can respect this in both cases. Although, come to think of it, a "Davlos clan" does sound a little end-of-the-world-like.
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Esna Pitoojee
Amarr Heavily Utilized Mechanic Mayhem
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Posted - 2009.02.09 03:25:00 -
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Your efforts, Grak, are appreciated. Not by me, but by those who see your actions and know that the stereo type of Matari as bloodthirsty, savage murderers is wrong.
I do hope that your security services will be uneeded. Either way, thank you. |
Sophie Starsparrow
Minmatar Cwn Annwn Clan
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Posted - 2009.02.09 11:17:00 -
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Davlos, don't drag the Vherokior into this, he doesn't speak for us, no matter how much he pretends to.
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Daevonar
Minmatar Starfish Operating Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.02.09 19:12:00 -
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I am surprised by the sentiments shown by many of our people, especially those who fight with tooth and tongue for a resolution to our captive brothers and sisters. Davlos, I had always heard that Electus Matari backed the path of sensible resolution to the Amarr situation, certainly holding back further expansion by our enemy, but at the same time expecting a resolution based on diplomacy and mediation, how can you then berate a man for making an offer that could help make such mediation more likely to take place?
I applaud the sentiments of Grak's offer. Unlike the Amarr, we do not have a history of forcing people to either take up, or refute any religion. If one of our people wishes to preach in favour of a religion, even the Amarrian faith, why should we turn them away, indeed how can we do so without being hypocritical in the extreme after we have continuously judged and damned the Amarrian people for their intolerance of other faiths and refusal to challenge their own teachings.
Let this preacher come, let him speak, and let him rise or fall based on the content of his words, not on some pre-conceived idea of his worth.
I'm sure if he maintains the prejudiced view of all non-Amarr that his former masters have placed at the core of their worship, he will be given short thrift from his listeners, yet if he truly has found some wisdom, comfort and solace within his religion, and offers this to us, why should we not listen, and what better way to show we have the tollerance that we so criticise the lack of in our enemies.
We are a free people, he will he preaches to people who have been taught to think for themselves, and not accept dogmatically the tennets of a certain religion. What is it then that we have to be afraid of in his words, why should he not speak them, and make converts if people find sense in what he says?
People wish to damn this man for taking up a certain faith, but it is not the belief in the Amarrians God which is behind the plight of our people, but the way that the Amarrians use and twist this to suite their purposes. Let this man in, let us lay to rest our enemies greatest lie. In this we have a chance to start to undo the harm that the Amarr religion has done to us, by making it our own and showing that it does not need to be practised only as a means to control, dominate and enslave. Just as he has much he wishes to teach us, so too do we have much that is good to show him, and his followers, and 'twixt the two, a new understanding just might be found.
People say it is dangerous to let this man in to our territory, I say it is more dangerous and harmfull to alienate him, and throw away a chance to weaken one of the links that chain our enemies and ourselves in this eternal conflict. Dae.
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Esna Pitoojee
Amarr Heavily Utilized Mechanic Mayhem
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Posted - 2009.02.09 23:16:00 -
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Pilot Daevonar, that is one of the most... impressive and brave things I have heard for a while. |
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Vincent Death
Caldari K Directorate
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Posted - 2009.02.10 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Esna Pitoojee Pilot Daevonar, that is one of the most... impressive and brave things I have heard for a while.
Seconded. Every man should be able to speak as he wills, just as every man should be able to think as he wills.
The proper name for a social system based on political freedom is capitalism. |
Stitcher
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.02.10 02:53:00 -
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Originally by: Davlos There's a whole clan of Yarns?
From what I gather, yes. He certainly never stops talking about his big ball of Yarn. |
Gottii
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.02.10 04:24:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher
From what I gather, yes. He certainly never stops talking about his big ball of Yarn.
No one spins a Yarn like he does... |
Grak Yarn
Minmatar Vherokior Forward Progession Group
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Posted - 2009.02.10 14:18:00 -
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Edited by: Grak Yarn on 10/02/2009 14:19:10 Mister Daevonor, your well thought out words bring unbridled joy to my heart, and I can only hope a dozen more like you pop up like you have now.
Thank you for your comment. ______________________________________________ No expansion without equilibrium, no conquest without control. Pursue success in serenity, and service to the people. |
Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.10 17:35:00 -
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Personally, I hope someone blasts this blithering preaching idiot out of the sky the second he crossses the Republic border.
A good cloning is obviously what he needs to stop him forcing his ill-guided ad brainwashed religion down people's throats.
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/
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Casiella Truza
White Rose Society
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Posted - 2009.02.10 17:35:00 -
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The latest news on his little "revival tour" probably means that the militia will get their hands on him before he can take Grak up on his offer.
You know, if people spent more time just taking care of themselves and each other rather than explaining why an invisible old man in the sky treats some people as "special-er", we'd accomplish a lot of the same purported goals without all the, you know, death. --
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Casiella Truza
White Rose Society
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Posted - 2009.02.10 17:52:00 -
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Also, berating Davlos for making inconsistent, incoherent remarks is like yelling at a toddler for crying. --
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Shern
Minmatar Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.02.10 18:13:00 -
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I *really* hope that the tribal militia and sympathisers do not open fire on unarmed pilgrimage ships. It all does look..rather rocky. I guess everything is in the hands of God. |
Faraelle Brightman
Gallente Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2009.02.10 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Personally, I hope someone blasts this blithering preaching idiot out of the sky the second he crossses the Republic border.
A good cloning is obviously what he needs to stop him forcing his ill-guided ad brainwashed religion down people's throats.
He probably doesn't have a clone, you bastard. He's a planet dweller and ex-slave, not a capsuleer. Even though House Sarum might certianly have the means to provide him with one there's that little thing called the sacred flesh doctrine (a touchy subject to broach with House Sarum right now as it is).
Mr. Yarn I laud your intentions but I'm afraid one moderate capsuleer against thousands or millions of angry Minmatar may be a futile effort. If you need an example of what such anger does in recent history, I'll simply point to the execution of Etuer. -----------------------
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.10 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Faraelle Brightman He probably doesn't have a clone, you bastard. He's a planet dweller and ex-slave, not a capsuleer.
Then the world will be a better place.
I have nothing against religion, but people should be free to go about their daily lives without having some idiot flying around invading their airwaves with his preaching.
Religion, particularly the Amarr faith draws the majority of it's opposing hostility from the fact that most of it's preachings belittle and insult those who do not feel the need to indulge in it. In the same breath the vast majority of preachings are nothing more than overzealous dribble about enlightening people, and a poorly veiled justification for slavery being the path to enlightenment.
So yeah... freeze drying this idiot where he stands is probably the best course of action before he drags more non-amarrian people into a life of hell under the boot of the Amarr.
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/
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Vieve Tisserand
Gallente Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.02.10 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Verone So yeah... freeze drying this idiot where he stands is probably the best course of action before he drags more non-amarrian people into a life of hell under the boot of the Amarr.
Hmm. I am far from being a master strategist, but I can think of eight words that inspire me to disagree with you on this subject.
First Recognized Matari Martyr to the Amarrian Faith.
I suspect, were he decreed one for 'standing brave in his devotion to God e'en in the teeth of lions' (or however it'd be eloquently phrased), he would be the first. I am certain there are theologians out there who are more than capable of correcting me on the subject, and I suppose they might even take delight in same.
I believe people with religious predispositions tend to pay more attention to martyrs than they do wild-eyed street preachers trying to drown out their appreciation of Quafe commercials. |
Scagga Laebetrovo
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.02.10 23:44:00 -
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The man wishes to travel trusting solely in the Almighty, sobeit. Should the tribals harm him, it will serve to do nothing but strengthen our resolve.
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Faraelle Brightman
Gallente Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2009.02.11 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Vieve Tisserand
Hmm. I am far from being a master strategist, but I can think of eight words that inspire me to disagree with you on this subject.
First Recognized Matari Martyr to the Amarrian Faith.
This, really, though I've said as much before. That it has the backing of House Sarum is also a strong suggestion that there is serious political manipulation behind this.
But also, he has comitted no crime to warrant his being put to death; the "flaw" of being indoctrinated in and taken up ferverently the Ammarian faith is not automaticly disgracefull, nor irreversable. There are liberal Gallente practitioners of it operating happily within the confines of Federation law; any capsuleer has heard at least one of them as the voice behind the Aura AI persona. But for any of that to sink In I suppose Verone would have to aquire a sense of respect for human lives first (althogh as combat pilots we are all culpable in some way). Damn pirates.
Oh Vieve, I... *blinks, noticing something apparently for the first time. Then she frowns and ends the feed abrubtly.*
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Vincent Death
Caldari K Directorate
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Posted - 2009.02.11 01:16:00 -
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It seems that freedom in the Minmatar Republic is a very subjective term. You are free to think and say what you are told to think and say. Divergence leads to execution.
Your enlightenment must surely shame your Ammarian neighbours.
The proper name for a social system based on political freedom is capitalism. |
Sophie Starsparrow
Minmatar Cwn Annwn Clan
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Posted - 2009.02.11 01:30:00 -
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Umm, you all seem to forget, this...'millions of angry Matar"...you speak of, doesn't exist. In every conversation I have seen on the subject, it is Ammatar, Ammarrians, and Caldari, suggesting we will kill him, and then berating us for it. Or an Ammarrian, Caldari, and even Gallente suggesting we should kill him.
The Minmatar I have seen in these discussions have defended his right to speak, though it was never in question, and invited him to their homes. With the exception of one individual that spoke his mind. As he is free to.
Well, there was that one Minmatar Militia member who threatened violence, but, funnily enough, he's Ammarrian.
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Casiella Truza
White Rose Society
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Posted - 2009.02.11 01:32:00 -
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Well, I'm Minmatar, and fairly confident he won't make it.
But that's just a guess, really. Those militia folks can get bloodthirsty, mhmm. |
Faraelle Brightman
Gallente Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2009.02.11 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Death It seems that freedom in the Minmatar Republic is a very subjective term. You are free to think and say what you are told to think and say. Divergence leads to execution.
Your enlightenment must surely shame your Ammarian neighbours.
Vincent Death, are you a Caldari citizen in good standing? I haven't time to run a new profile search just now.
The Caldari equivilant for the situation would be for a person of Caldari ancestry living on Caldari Prime for most of their life in the years after the first war to return to Caldari space and extol the virtues of the Federation. I do not think that would go over very well in the current political climate either. |
Faraelle Brightman
Gallente Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2009.02.11 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sophie Starsparrow Umm, you all seem to forget, this...'millions of angry Matar"...you speak of, doesn't exist. In every conversation I have seen on the subject, it is Ammatar, Ammarrians, and Caldari, suggesting we will kill him, and then berating us for it. Or an Ammarrian, Caldari, and even Gallente suggesting we should kill him.
The Minmatar I have seen in these discussions have defended his right to speak, though it was never in question, and invited him to their homes. With the exception of one individual that spoke his mind. As he is free to.
Well, there was that one Minmatar Militia member who threatened violence, but, funnily enough, he's Ammarrian.
Ms. Starsparrow, if only the average citizen of Pator - many survivors of the rebellion, many emancipated people who were slaves under the Ammarian doctrine that the man comes to preach - would all assured to be just as level headed as yourself and other Minmatar capsuleers. -----------------------
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Vincent Pryce
Gallente Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.02.11 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo The man wishes to travel trusting solely in the Almighty, sobeit. Should the tribals harm him, it will serve to do nothing but strengthen our resolve.
*Vincent opens the feed and grins as he takes off his black leather gloves and sets the down on the table*
How predectible of you nefantari, to expect the attacker to be a minmatar proper. It would be sheer idiocity and a political suicide for the matari to slay this man. My personal views however are akin to mr. Verone's about this man. Still, there are many who would find it advantageous to have him to ...divert his course, not the least being your masters, the Amarr. Pray to the Angels that he shall resume his course without too much interference.
*He smirks and cuts the feed*
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.11 02:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vieve Tisserand Hmm. I am far from being a master strategist, but I can think of eight words that inspire me to disagree with you on this subject.
First Recognized Matari Martyr to the Amarrian Faith.
I suspect, were he decreed one for 'standing brave in his devotion to God e'en in the teeth of lions' (or however it'd be eloquently phrased), he would be the first. I am certain there are theologians out there who are more than capable of correcting me on the subject, and I suppose they might even take delight in same.
Oh, you misunderstand me Vieve... I'm not talking about the Minmatar people, or Republic loyalists freeze drying him at all. There are many others that would take pleasure and enjoyment from it purely for his status as a blood traitor.
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