And i wanted others to contribute to the discussion by providing counter balance.

Unfortunately everyone and especially Mag's got stuck with an idea that my proposition was in final form and does not need to be readjusted in any way. If it was I would've posted it on Assembly Hall.

Here I've come for two way discussion that could potentially result in some constructive ideas. But right now beyond Xorv there was little actual feedback.

So with all that in mind, I and I know many others, think the current situation is fine. It adds that element of psychological warfare, slightly favours the none cloaked vessels and I believe gives all a fighting chance. Therefore I prefer the status quo. (not the band)

I am not clear on what you mean by 'sit cloaked'. AFK cloaking is effectively made obsolete by this, so you would need to broadcast your presence in order to duplicate that. If that's your goal, learn to move around a lot.

If you are flat gathering intel, good news. With noone actually aware you are present, they have no direct reason to hunt you. I would d-scan every so often for probes, and stay in a deep safe so your ship doesn't trigger someone else's d-scan.

If you are probing, then you need to be mindful to watch for probes that are not yours. Good news, your probes will probably find theirs. Cat and mouse begins.

Cloaking should be suspense filled. Did they spot you? They worry you are about to gank them somehow...

I missed the part where you recommend that cloak removes you from local. If this is so, why?

Part 1; The trade off.
Dump at least cloaked ships out of local. They don't belong there unless they want to be seen, and they can chatter away if that's the case.
Enable an auto-cycle of the D-Scan, with the following details:
It can detect if a cloaked vessel enters it's range, but cannot determine location or number.
It shuts off when you enter warp.
It shuts off when you do a system change, by any means.
One exception, the ships designed to probe are able to have it run nonstop even when warping. (This would include any ship with bonuses to probing)

Part 2; Hunt the hunters.
Use probes designed to hunt cloaked ships. Specialty item, T2.
The probes can decloak ships by either proximity, or by getting on grid with ships they have tracked, and pulsing an inverted energy wave to the cloaked vessel's power frequency. The cloaked vessel cannot reengage their cloak until they get off grid with the probe.
Stopping them is the hunter's problem. The probe just creates an opportunity if used right.
(Gate camps won't find this very useful, as probing down the newly arrived cloaked vessel will allow the vessel in question to leave before it completes.)

And I wasn't asking a yes or no. I wanted to start a discussion, especially since I've personally agreed this isnt a cure. I wouldn't have posted this in F&I otherwise.

Ahhh, mystery explained. You jumped into an exchange between me and the OP, where I had presented this, the intention to avoid repeating the evolution many other threads went through.



Keep in mind, D-scan doesn't find cloaked ships beyond simple yes or no to presence. You won't be effectively hunting them with that.
You need to give people a skill like this, or the cloaked ship has an 'I Win' button against every ship that doesn't have probes out that I described above, and that would not even be close to balanced.

With cloaked ships not being betrayed by local, they can now stay silent and quiet, get away from everyone and be truly hidden... or risk detection by using active probe scanning.

Bombers won't be sneaking up on people making an effort to guard against them properly, nor should they have the ability to do so. Enough will forget to restart their d-scans, not train a needed skill for it, or just assume someone else is doing it. Local would have warned everyone before, now they are relying on themselves and each other.
Maybe they won't see you coming. You would have a chance, where as before one glance at local would have blown your cover.

TL:DR This changes cloaking from useful at meta gaming to hide and seek with guns, bombs, and spaceships.