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Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.23 18:18:00 -
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Played teh wizard.
The good: Has polish. Atmosphere/art work is good. Story.
The bad. Graphics are underwhelming by far. Like I said the environments are nice/well thought out. But eh... the rest is lacking in features and high res textures. Skill system... Really it's on rails you can unlock everything because it's level based rather than you choose. It's pretty much the same song and dance as D2 game play wise. Compare the witcher 2 or DAO, ME... Your options are so limited in terms of character customization and story choices. Uses CPU to run rather than new games multithreading (Swear just one core was going 100% full time) and using GPU. |
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.23 19:22:00 -
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Sorry to ruffle your feathers, (See the comment on how this is all my opinion) but well I for one think they could have done better with the graphics. I dont care about your ****** laptop. Thats why you add scale into the game... So people can play with all the whistles on or turn em down with they have haggard systems.
Graphics do matter/enhance the gameplay. Why should I have to be brought down to your level of hardware? Or why should you have to shell out a **** ton of money to play a game at my level? Seriously scaling isn't hard to do.
Quote:It's called balance. There's a reason every RPG has a skill tree instead of letting you pick anything at any level. And really, Diablo 3 does an even better job than usual. Instead of obsessing over which unlock to pick at each level, you just gain more options every level and decide what skills you want your character to be using at that moment.
Im sorry if they want to make skills more useful they could have gone about it another way... That really is dumbing things down...making things less interesting for me.
Quote:If you're looking for story in a Diablo game, you're really missing the point. The series is about killing hordes of monsters as fast as possible, and Diablo 3 looks like it got that gameplay exactly right.
Story can be well done in any game... Blizzard does a good of this. You can't **** on my point asking for better graphics then tell me off for liking a game with a story in it... Especially since all blizzard games have grandiose stories interwoven in them from the days of the first WC.
Quote:There isn't, and nobody will miss it. Except when blizzards servers go down (Like they did and will do upon release) or your internet is having problems... Verification is one thing having to have it on 100% of the time in a game like this is quite another. Considering even SC2 has an offline mode.
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Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.23 20:37:00 -
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Why should I have to suffer because you can't be troubled to play something on other than your netbook? (This is like eve people complaining about shaders) Hobbies cost money video games are no different. The graphics are honestly underwhelming and do the artwork no favors. Scaling isn't hard to do given that well all games give you more choices than 3 - 4. Also under cutting blizzard as they usually set their sites so high.
You're asking how giving everyone all the skills and all the skill upgrades is not dumbing things down? Before you had specialization and a bit of planning. You made your character based upon a type of play style you wanted to be. Now if people screwed up or don't like their choice yes perhaps they should be allowed to respec, but this seems just not as creative and only caters to people who complain.
Now there's no differentiation between anyone. My wizard is no different than the next guys. Gear might be a tad different... but eh.
I'm glad you like the game, but I found it lacking with no real sense of iteration upon the series. Defiantly doesn't live up the hype (or the wait) or make me want to blow 60 bucks on it day one.
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Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.23 21:22:00 -
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No iteration of game play, engine, not story. Think HL2 v. Half life. Huge difference. Still a shooter, but then they built physics into it. Or BF3 v. 2 with destructible environments, suppression, leveling guns etc. That's iteration of a series. Hell even the "episodes" or DLC have more iteration than all of the sequels blizzard is releasing.
Play the witcher 2 (now with enhanced edition for free btw) and then play D3... It's just eh... Genres have moved on if it wants to be the "serious sam" of RPG's that's cool. Just don't expect me to be wow'ed over it... or feel the need to rush out and buy it day/week 1.
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Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.24 01:55:00 -
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Merin Ryskin wrote:Kattshiro wrote:No iteration of game play, engine, not story. Except that's not true at all. The skill system is significantly improved (and completely new), the graphics are much better, various annoyances in the previous games have been removed (for example, you now have infinite arrows), etc. If you can honestly say that the game does not improve on anything, you clearly haven't played it.
I didn't say no iteration i'm saying it's passe given current games or not enough. (really really minor. YAY i broke over 6 boxes I get some xp..) Yeah there are changes... I clearly argued that I dont care for the skill system, or the graphics aren't great.
As for the "cookie cutter" old system...meh I went about and did what worked for me, I never paid attention to forums. On occasion I had a lacking build, but meh. What other games just give you all the skills to swap out any time...and think why they don't do this...
Kinda lame (Could you imagine eve or other MMO's doing this? Oh wait people can hot swap in WOW)
Give repsecs or make a way to earn them sure, but this really seems to cater to lowest common denominator.
Furthermore why do you care if people dont like it/are underwhelmed? It's all opinion. (Means we can't be wrong) I didnt even say it was bad more like... Eh played it already, and i'll pick it up on sale at Christmas. |
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.24 02:54:00 -
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Lol please tell me where I attempt to make a factual statement rather than preference? In your retorts if you cant back them up you do the almighty "ITS BETA!!!!"
I'm not saying the skill system is the worst thing ever rather..myself and others just seem to like the classic skill system more. I like a game makes you think about your choices, and not swapping them out mid fight... (A change in tactics sure, but I like building a character, and having to use current resources rather than having everything at my disposal.)
People also dont care for the lack luster graphics, and failure to innovate. (Skill system is different...wooptie... Lots of RPG's have lots of different systems) Like I said if button mashing "serious sam" 2D RPG is your thing. Cool, glad you like the game but compared to current gen RPG's... Just underwhelming. Wasn't enthralled with the experience as I was with D2.
The only thing that will change my mind is if the game changes... Rather than a subjective opinion. |
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.24 04:00:00 -
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You do know ARPG just means it's not turned based right? Math based? (All games have math... and Diablo still has dice role mechanics (crits)) So might need clarification on your terminology....Because well combat mechanics can be compared to wow. (which makes sense as D2 came first, and the same company. It might not be 100% argument but you have to rationally accept that there are truths to that. (Button smashing global timers, no actual blocking or parrying/dodging is player controlled, gear/stats are similar)
So if thats the rubric then I can compare D3 to the witcher 2 DA:O, ME, Skyrim etc. And by those standards it falls very short given the current bar. (And really given what blizzard is capable of... disappointing)
Now then if you want to put it in it's own camp... (hack and slash...no real character dev) Fine, but even then what is it doing that so special or spectacular?
Which is a shame considering D2 set the standard back in the day, and had people chasing it. So really why is it super awesome that I should go get it day 1/im just to stupid and not understanding? Or were my expectations set to high?... Or has progression made it so I no longer care for older mechanics/style? |
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.24 13:02:00 -
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Quote:The fact that you all are comparing this game to WoW is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard
1. The gameplay is NOT what you see in WoW. There is a HUGE difference in running around killing 1 mob, then the next, then the next, then the next. Running around killing hordes of enemies with your chosen skills grabbing your loot and walking away like a boss when the next wave hits.... Ya totally the same thing as WoW. NOT
2. Blizzard did an amazing job as far as graphics go. Are they comparable to some of the new games? No. Blizzard made it so that the graphics are good enough to play on new high end systems while not hindering the fact that even on lower end computers you can play the game just fine. And be competitive because your not sutck at 15 FPS
1. Think you miss what I meant in the wow comparison. Fundamental combat is really quite similar. (How you fight not what you fight.) Of which you dont choose when to block, dodge, where to hit. Damage is based upon DD rule set. (So old school rules) Which both have. Button mash, global cooldowns, auto attack. That's what im driving at.
2. Right there people are making excuses for it. (No they're not comparable to modern competition...but guys with a netbook can play it.) (Rather utilitarian argument) Awesome for them, but uh right there is an admission of no bueno. Dont mistake artwork for graphics. They added near no level of scale to it... Which is another standard in game development these days. One size fits all is a terrible development practice. Fucks sake SC2 has better/more scalability than D3 and they made it after! Don't make excuses given the development time for what is now a standard. Which once again is shame considering Blizzard guys make truly wonderful environments/landscapes. (characters...eh they make everyone giant mongoloids in their games it seems these days.
3. No I just dont care for it. I like character building.
Why is D2 ground breaking and D3 not so much? D2 was released when? We've progressed, so another example would be an older car at the time it added auto transmission, and power steering/power brakes. If they made the same car with nothing new/better ("We tweaked the clock! Also same look, but now in blue!") And now everyone is using AWD, more efficient engines with more power/speed, Newer styling, and a **** ton of features that; that car holds up? No the standards have changed
It's not a bad car, but it's certainly not a great car, or a car that will get you there fast, or one that turns heads... I'm not the only one saying this either in this topic alone a fair amount of people are unimpressed. (I'm just the one procrastinating on other stuff and would rather argue my opinion.) |
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.25 01:29:00 -
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EVE Stig wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Look at games like Supreme Commander and Sins of a Solar Empire. Both of those can field far more units than StarCraft 2 and both of them have maps that dwarf StarCraft 2 in every way. StarCraft 2 is a decade old game reskinned. Diablo 3 is looking like it will be the same unforutunately. That doesn't mean I won't play it because it does have fun gameplay but the map randomization was an important part of D2 and if it is missing entirely in D3 it will hinder the games replayability severely. Yes but Sins of a solar empire suffers horribly graphics wise on its units... Unless they changed it massive battles in tat game are just icon on icon violence At least in Supreme Commander (AKA Total Annihilation 2 lol) you can see the units AND the fight at the same time
Eh thats not 100% true often in Supreme you had to zoom way out if you had massive different armies to coordinate attacks, and you could zoom in and see the battles in Sins as well.
Total war is another game that can have thousands of units in a battle (granted in formations, but each guy is really detailed, and swinging/fighting individually) Shogun the battles look amazing.
Quote:There are plenty of reasons to dislike Diablo 3
Such as I haven't heard you mention one... You've defended every decision they've made. |
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