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61. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Bouh Revetoile wrote: You see the accumulation of wealth as an effect. I think it is a cause. This one you'll have to explain again. Accumulation of wealth, or deflation, exists when you have more resources comming into the system than goi...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.13 20:11:00
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62. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
If we round this off with stepping back to the overview again, we can look at all the balance issues that should be solved instead. We'll use the BC3 as examples this time instead of HML, since they recapture the problem even better. They are......
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.12 22:09:00
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63. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Bouh Revetoile wrote: IMO, this cost balance neglect a few things : risk aversity and accumulation of wealth . And at the end of the day, you need people flying in space anyway. Unless I'm mising something ? Why do you think cost should be ba...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.12 21:31:00
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64. Combat carriers in small gang PvP - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Tara Read wrote: Jesus Christ.... is THIS what is considered small gang nowadays? Hot drops only happen when you are losing ;D A small gang is generally denoted by the amount of pilots on the field, not the size of ships they use. In fact...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.11 17:46:00
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65. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Tyberius Franklin wrote: I agree with your reasoning, but somehow not the destination you've reached. You argue that cost balance works because it hurts more to loose, but you later state that some entities have the ability to field expensive ...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.10 03:41:00
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66. AFK boosting alts in pos - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Goldensaver wrote: Oh, and it really can be the link alt's fault. With longer point/web range as well as faster/tankier ships it's possible for them to easily overwhelm a normally fair fight. And sure, you could say everyone should just get th...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.10 02:27:00
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67. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Tyberius Franklin wrote: Cost based balancing is horrendously ineffective as cost can't be balanced around earning potential since it varies from person to person. Your solution is literally saying the way to imbalance is to create expensive s...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.09 00:34:00
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68. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Deacon Abox wrote: It would be interesting to as you say have counters to the long webs and painting. I think though that they are partially already there. A few Arazu/Lach with damps instead of points to counter the opposing painting, webbing...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.08 23:56:00
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69. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Deacon Abox wrote: I don't know what kind of argument you are looking for. Not really sure whether you agree with the OP's claim that HMs are now useless. But whatever you are seeking, I won't be giving it to you. I don't really agree with ...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.08 20:44:00
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70. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
I'm still waiting for any of you to come argue the point. Did you run out of things to say, so you have to resort to petty sarcasm, personal slants and only attacking the wording now? I'll take that as my arguments being sound, since you don't p...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.08 16:59:00
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71. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Tsukino Stareine wrote: did the guy above really just say sentries and heavy missiles are similar. I'd love to see you argue the point of how they are not, with regards to being balanced with a higher output to a lower application. Maybe you...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.08 16:42:00
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72. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Deacon Abox wrote: So because there are other long range doctrines nothing should have been done with HM Drake usage? What i have been saying since my first post in this thread is that every oversized system intentionally balanced by accur...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.08 16:01:00
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73. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Here's your problem... Deacon Abox wrote: The HML Drake reign is over, maybe. There never was a Drake reign. There is a Super king, there is a Capital queen and there is a Battleship jack. There are various Tech III aces. All of them alway...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.08 04:38:00
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74. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Drunken Bum wrote: I just solod the gallente epic arc in a tengu. Semi afk, more than semi drunk. With 90km missile rang and 600 dps, i couldnt do it in any other t3 cruiser that well. Sentry proteus would come close, but not nearly as mobile. ...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.07 18:09:00
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75. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Malcanis wrote: Kodama Ikari wrote: Deacon Abox wrote: atm this is all I can find on eve-kill for a combat record on Naomi Knight http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1124632&view=losses&m=1&y=2012 Of course there ...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.07 15:29:00
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76. Mynnna for CSM8 - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
I'd like to entertain a notion regarding your response to Dyvin Slorm on the first page: If the different securities of EVE Online are not to be in place to balance risk and reward, then what is the point of maintaining those securities at all? ...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.06 02:42:00
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77. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Songbird wrote: So at what size engagement do you envision HML being worse than a medium LR gun turret? That is a very odd question since it obviously depends on what turret, fired from what ship onto what HML-ship, how that fires on you and...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.03 22:45:00
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78. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Roime wrote: Idk how you can disregard BC class in HML nerf discussion. Also, i didn't disregard it... i simply pointed out to you that being "slightly less bad at something" is not a very appealing example. Drakes were not good at fightin...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.03 17:18:00
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79. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Roime wrote: Btw do you think medium lr turrets hit cruisers well? Of course they do, assuming you don't fight an equal size ship with a speed advantage on you that use that to create transversal. Why do you think SHAC became popular? M-tu...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.03 17:01:00
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80. Heavy Missles Now Useless - in Ships and Modules [original thread]
Roime wrote: HML damage against battlecruiser: 100% with MWD on because of sig bloom 100% with MWD off because of speed (or rather lack of it) Yes, smaller ships and ABs will reduce missile damage, just like it does turret damage and this i...
- by Noisrevbus - at 2013.03.03 16:10:00
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