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21. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Jill Xelitras wrote: ... How does a limited anonymity factor in the whole thing not being PvP. I could play a shooter or a racing game, where everyone is anonymous. As long as we're competing against each other and not against AI it is PvP. A...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 20:34:16
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22. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Jill Xelitras wrote: You are persisting on "having to lose a ship in combat" to define PvP as PvP. There are various levels of risk in ship combat. I'd say WH and 0.0 are riskier to fight in than Highsec. But that is just my opinion. What i...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 19:18:24
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23. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Whitehound wrote: No, I specifically meant your use of the word "agents", which is why I quoted it. Then you should probably have made it clear that you don't own a thesaurus and asked about the word in question. agent |-êe...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 18:16:11
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24. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Salvos Rhoska wrote: Throth wrote: Cheers. Bye. That was a really sad conversation. The least people should do is sell their stuff, buy PLEX and fill up their skill queue to the max. At least when they return, or if they return, will the...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 15:59:30
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25. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Whitehound wrote: Please explain this in more detail. I would like to know more. I'm going to show you a neat trick GÇö one you should learn because it will help you in the future. It's called linking. https://forums.eveonl...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 15:52:44
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26. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Whitehound wrote: So tell me, what is relevant to you and how do you proof it? What the active agents are. Please explain this in more detail. I would like to know more.
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 15:40:14
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27. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Dersen Lowery wrote: Assuming that I was a freighter pilot (I'm not) ... This puts you right into a space ship and you can certainly be targeted by others and suffer a great loss. Not only a loss over your ship but in case of courier contract...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 15:37:56
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28. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Whitehound wrote: So winning and losing is irrelevant to yo, you see no point in having a competition and with that you concede the argument. Nope, nope, and nope. In that order. That's just some nonsensical strawman you've co...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 15:22:22
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29. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Whitehound wrote: Then how do you prove that you have won? Again, repeating the question does not change the answer. So winning and losing is irrelevant to you, you see no point in having a competition and with that you conc...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 15:07:16
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30. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Whitehound wrote: Meaningless marketing buzzwords All of the "PvE" activities in Eve are designed to pit you against other players, or to pit other players against each other. They are conflict drivers; ergo PvE a...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 15:03:43
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31. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Whitehound wrote: And did you not just say that it was irrelevant? Nope. Then how do you prove that you have won?
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 14:45:27
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32. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Whitehound wrote: When risks, losses and gains are irrelevant then what is the point of having a competition? To see who wins and who can then brag about being the best. Who is winning and who is losing? And did you not jus...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 14:35:53
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33. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Irrelevant. Risk is no more a prerequisite than a loss is (unsurprisingly, when considering what GÇ£riskGÇ¥ is), and there most definitely can be a loser without loss. When risks, losses and gains are irrelevant then what is the...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 14:29:00
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34. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Lucas Kell wrote: [Trading is primarily a PvP activity as you buy from or sell to players. This is where I actually disagree and say that it is still competitive PvE. You do give your items to a broker, and you do pay the broker and the stat...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 14:21:58
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35. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Whitehound wrote: So you have no proof and claim proof is irrelevant? No. I'm saying that what you're trying to prove is irrelevant. ... So you have no proof, or are you saying loss is irrelevant? In any case, if you have ...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 13:59:11
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36. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Whitehound wrote: Let us try a different approach: Is there any proof you could show me that your losses are real, not speculative and have been afflicted to you by another player? Still not different; still irrelevant. So y...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 12:21:47
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37. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Whitehound wrote: Have you yet considered that your understanding of the market is perhaps only a derivation of the PvP around it and that the competitive PvE is a tool within a PvP game? No, because that would require me to ...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 12:10:03
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38. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Jill Xelitras wrote: Whitehound wrote: So who attacked my orders? And what is my loss? Can you tell? Let's assume you put a sell order. Whatever you're selling has a market value: the price that somebody else is willing to pay to get ...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 11:26:31
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39. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Whitehound wrote: I still do not see an attack happening. I do not know who or if anyone is attacking me and I do not see any loss either. That's because, as you and others have satisfactorily demonstrated, you don't understan...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 10:48:53
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40. Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!! - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Salvos Rhoska wrote: Whitehound wrote: --- Define the following three concisely: 1) PvE: 2) PvP: 3) Competetive PvE: This is not a rhetorical request. I expect actual answers. This is your final chance. Please do not spam. I alread...
- by Whitehound - at 2015.09.01 10:40:36
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