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101. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Salvos Rhoska wrote: Welp, looks like T3C are going to become inferior to Navy Cruisers at far higher SP and subsystem cost. Prepare your butts. Firesale all T3Cs, cos nobody will buy them, and re-align production to other products. Buy extr...
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 13:25:23
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102. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Infinity Ziona wrote: NO ONE WILL FLY IT. The words said before every single FOTM nerf ever made.
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 13:10:35
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103. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Salvos Rhoska wrote: 1) Nobody will fly a T3C that underperforms a Navy Cruiser. GJ, you just wiped T3Cs out of the meta, and pissed off thousands of players. 2) Why would I fly a T3C instead of a Navy cruiser? 3) They can bypass gatecamps b...
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 13:04:29
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104. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Infinity Ziona wrote: They would be useless in EVE. Its not a strategic enough game for this to work other than for PvE purposes. Use your brain. Either that or refittable like a supercap during combat. Noones going to drop a mobile depot to...
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 12:36:53
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105. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Salvos Rhoska wrote: 1) You want cheaper T3Cs. That isnt going to make HACs more attractive. Quite the opposite. Furthermore you claimed cost was irrelevant in balance, yet here you are, suddenly using it as a balance tool. That is hypocrisy a...
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 12:17:13
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106. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Salvos Rhoska wrote: 1) You stated cost doesnt matter in balance, Now you claim it does and has been seen in almost every change. Cheaper T3Cs means more T3Cs. You are a backpedalling hypocrite. 2) SP loss works just fine. Lose ship, lose SP....
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 11:07:33
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107. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Salvos Rhoska wrote: baltec1 So let me get this straight: 1) You have so much isk, that you want T3Cs to cost LESS. 2) You have so much SP, that you want SP loss REMOVED from T3Cs. 3) Currently EVERYONE can fly a cloak/null T3C, but you...
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 10:25:45
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108. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Jeremiah Saken wrote: baltec1 wrote: Merin Ryskin wrote: I assume you mean "your" in a general sense, because I have neither alliance bubble camps nor Rorquals. And if by "dropping" you mean "hot dropping with black ops/capitals" then tha...
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 10:04:26
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109. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Shallanna Yassavi wrote: I thought the big blue donut didn't exist any more. It never did, doesn't mean there isn't vast empires out there.
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 10:02:18
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110. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Merin Ryskin wrote: I'm not sure who you think "I" am, given that the only capital I've ever flown is a carrier I use as a hauler and you're never going to kill it. I'm not shedding any tears for carebear capitals getting ganked because they ...
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 08:59:36
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111. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Merin Ryskin wrote: The excessive tank on T3s, which is excessive no matter how they're fitted or used, is not relevant here. I am strongly in favor of nerfing T3 tanks to something more appropriate for a cruiser hull. That tank is critica...
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 08:53:12
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112. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Merin Ryskin wrote: Boo hoo, there's a ship that bubble camps, the laziest zero-effort form of "PvP" in EVE, aren't an automatic win against. If I had my way I'd make more ships immune to bubbles, starting with everything that can fit a cov...
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 08:35:33
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113. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Salvos Rhoska wrote: You do, but many dont. Doesn't matter, fact is enough of us do and by enough of us I mean the bulk of null, WH and some lowsec organisations. Salvos Rhoska wrote: That T3C you seek to "nerf" (cough, buff for your ...
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 08:25:05
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114. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Salvos Rhoska wrote: baltec1 claims cost and SP have nothing to do with balance. Yet he wants T3C cost to build reduced, and SP loss removed. Hmmm! We toss around dreads like subcaps while the number of supers balloons by tens of thousands...
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 07:53:09
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115. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Salvos Rhoska wrote: They also want T3Cs changed so that they are more useful for their own PvP fleets. How exactly does nerfing T3C down to cruiser/navy cruiser levels of power make them more useful to our PvP fleets? Less EHP, Less fir...
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 07:51:17
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116. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Merin Ryskin wrote: The real answer here is that SP loss is a bad balancing mechanic and needs to be removed. The oldest players don't care, but everyone else is potentially crippled by it if they want to use T3s. That's not a good situation....
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 07:47:24
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117. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Merin Ryskin wrote: Ok, great. I've been training for at least 7 of the past 10 years and I still have various relevant Vs to finish up. I suspect more people are in my situation than in yours, and you can't balance around the tiny minority o...
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 06:05:15
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118. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: baltec1 wrote: Shallanna Yassavi wrote: If you're going out to null to just explore, there's already the wormhole express. Escalation chasing is another story. That one says "go to X system within 24 hours." I've...
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 05:12:10
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119. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Merin Ryskin wrote: Sorry, but this is nonsense. You might have time to replace the SP loss between battles, but it means you're spending your time keeping your ability to fly a T3 ship instead of training new skills. Over time the player who...
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 05:11:05
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120. Strategic cruiser balance pass - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Shallanna Yassavi wrote: If you're going out to null to just explore, there's already the wormhole express. Escalation chasing is another story. That one says "go to X system within 24 hours." I've never chased a null escalation because the on...
- by baltec1 - at 2017.04.23 05:03:11
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