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Reven Cordelle
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.02.16 11:11:00 -
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So.. TeeThree.
S'what its all about... However, how much are we going to have to lay down for some of these pimped out rides?
Battleship prices for a T3 Frig setup? Faction prices for a T3 Cruiser?
T3 BS prices running into the billions?
How much d'yall reckon it's gonna cost?
Also - Will we be able to make T3 Industrial Ships? Like.. say.. Our own T3 Hybrid Miner/Hauler?
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.02.16 11:16:00 -
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Over 9000 isk.
God, my reply sucks. --
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Mickey Simon
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.02.16 11:17:00 -
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T3 Battleships? T3 Frigates?
Have you done any reading on T3 at all?
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mcnuggetlol
Amarr Outlandish Operations
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Posted - 2009.02.16 11:18:00 -
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For a while after the patch comes out T3'll probably be hitting around a bill (random guess), although prices'll go down later on.
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La Muerte
Amarr SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.02.16 11:19:00 -
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Try reading the dev blogs , chum ...
No such thing as a Tech III Battleship / Hauler
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Cat o'Ninetails
Rancer Defence Force
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Posted - 2009.02.16 11:19:00 -
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they will cost as much as bob decide they cost Also, I believe that you should join Rancer Defence Force. It's cool. |
RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.02.16 11:20:00 -
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T3 cruisers bloody loads new space has to be tamed before anythign comes though your looking at billions for the 1st one -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve
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ddanblack
Minmatar Zero Gravity Inc United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.16 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails they will cost as much as bob decide they cost
who is this bob you speak of?
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.02.16 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mickey Simon
T3 Battleships? T3 Frigates?
Have you done any reading on T3 at all?
Being honest, I haven't.
Feel glad that I gave you an opportunity to use your wealth of knowledge about it to enlighten me.
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RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.02.16 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Originally by: Mickey Simon
T3 Battleships? T3 Frigates?
Have you done any reading on T3 at all?
Being honest, I haven't.
Feel glad that I gave you an opportunity to use your wealth of knowledge about it to enlighten me.
Try this then
-- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve
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Fujiko MaXjolt
Caldari Templar Republic Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.16 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: ddanblack
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails they will cost as much as bob decide they cost
who is this bob you speak of?
Zingg !
Is the accepted vernacular ken now ? or kenny ? or casey ?
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Kaahles
n0thing Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.16 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: ddanblack
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails they will cost as much as bob decide they cost
who is this bob you speak of?
It's called "Kenny" by now ----------------------------- OMG THE SKY IS FALLING! Contract me all your stuff so I can save it! |
Rivqua
Caldari Omega Wing R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2009.02.16 13:42:00 -
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Quite likely 1 bil for hull+5 subsystems. At start, and going to 1/3rd of that over time.
/Riv
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brinelan
Caldari Victory Not Vengeance Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.02.16 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rivqua Quite likely 1 bil for hull+5 subsystems. At start, and going to 1/3rd of that over time.
/Riv
This.. just like anything new, the first ones to get it will pay a hefty premium.
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Dani SP
Rupture Farms Mining
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Posted - 2009.02.16 15:49:00 -
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will they release T3 modules anytime?
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Guardian Federation
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Posted - 2009.02.16 15:54:00 -
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Check the Blog about T3 Production.
As the process is complicated, requires material from multiple sources and is in some areas chance based, getting a complete T3 production chain to work will be very hard.
The price will certainly reflect that.
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Demitria Fernir
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.02.16 15:55:00 -
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They won't hit the market at first, and their initial cost will be more than you pay for a carrier. that's enough for you to stop talking about it and leave it alone, when with 60m you can fit a way better BC for PVP _______________________________________________ 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101 |
Reven Cordelle
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.02.16 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Demitria Fernir They won't hit the market at first, and their initial cost will be more than you pay for a carrier. that's enough for you to stop talking about it and leave it alone, when with 60m you can fit a way better BC for PVP
So what you're saying is.. the most exciting game mechanic for some time will be unobtainable for a good 75 - 80% of the playerbase.
Nice.
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Phantom Slave
JUDGE DREAD Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.16 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Demitria Fernir They won't hit the market at first, and their initial cost will be more than you pay for a carrier. that's enough for you to stop talking about it and leave it alone, when with 60m you can fit a way better BC for PVP
Plus when you lose your BC you won't lose any SP either. I know most of the prices here are pure speculation, but there's no way I'm going to undock in a 300 mil isk cruiser (just the hull costs). I hope the speculation is wrong and they end up costing closer to HAC costs at the most.
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wutang shogun
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Posted - 2009.02.16 16:25:00 -
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why does ccp have to make it so complicated. why cant we just have a new line of t3 ships that are readily accessible by most, and dont cost more than building a pos. none of this gas mining salvaging nonsense. I just want some new, straight up, bad ass ships to chill in. I guess i'll just have to deal with not doing anything with these ships for a while until i can save up enough money through prostitution
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Dred 'Morte
New European Regiment Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.16 16:29:00 -
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early estimates point to a manufacture cost of no less than 400mill. Market prices will probably begin at about 1billion as already stated, and then go down until they stabilize, i'm guessing, at about 500mill. You can keep spec'ing those HAC/Command skills : )
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Arakidias
IONSTAR Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.16 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: wutang shogun why does ccp have to make it so complicated. why cant we just have a new line of t3 ships that are readily accessible by most, and dont cost more than building a pos. none of this gas mining salvaging nonsense. I just want some new, straight up, bad ass ships to chill in. I guess i'll just have to deal with not doing anything with these ships for a while until i can save up enough money through prostitution
Because it gives a new goal in a game with no endgame.
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Alora Venoda
GalTech Whiskey Creek Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.16 16:35:00 -
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i'm pretty sure the market for the fullerenes and polymers will be huge, especially at first. a lot of industrialists will pay nicely for the intrepid explorers do all the footwork.
my guess is that once everything settles out, it will be comparable to HAC prices, but that also largely depends on demands for the end product. if nobody wants to fly T3 ships after the shininess wears off, then they will probably be really cheap.
T3 using all new materials was a smart move by CCP, compared to black-ops and marauders, which cost as much as a freighter mainly because of all the T2 materials they require to build, which overshadows the market demand for them and basically renders them unsellable.
fixing the black-ops and marauders would require some serious love, either by making them cheaper or buffing them to be worth the high production cost. ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless.
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royal killer
Amarr Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2009.02.16 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: ddanblack
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails they will cost as much as bob decide they cost
who is this bob you speak of?
I see what you did there...
Back to topic, 1 bill for a cruiser bit too much no ? --------------------
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Cailais
Amarr 0utbreak KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.02.16 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dred 'Morte early estimates point to a manufacture cost of no less than 400mill. Market prices will probably begin at about 1billion as already stated, and then go down until they stabilize, i'm guessing, at about 500mill. You can keep spec'ing those HAC/Command skills : )
Considering we dont know the availability of t3 resources that's a wild stab in the dark - but I'm inclined to agree. T3 could quite easily become a pure 'collectors' item to be held in a station by the fabulously wealthy.
C.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2009.02.16 16:54:00 -
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How much will a T3 Titan cost?
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.02.16 17:10:00 -
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The cost will be mostly determined by the relics dropped from sleepers, as this is a semi steady rate determined by CCP. The mitigating factor being how well players will be able to 'farm' these NPCs on any given scale.
Early estimates are not well though. Sleepers are the rats we've come to know and love pumped full of steroids and PCP. |
Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.16 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: Dantes Revenge on 16/02/2009 17:16:11
Originally by: Kaahles
Originally by: ddanblack who is this bob you speak of?
It's called "Kenny" by now
The final BOB video.
On topic. T3 will cost whatever the players can get for them. Because they are new and hard to get to begin with, probably billions. -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. All this has happened before and will happen again |
Hegbard
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Posted - 2009.02.16 17:38:00 -
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T3 ships will cost as much as sellers want to sell them for and buyers want to pay.
Considering their stats at sisi right now, I guess I'd pay around 5 million for a Tengu, since it's not worth more. Its performance is comparable to a Caracal.
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Hariya
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Posted - 2009.02.16 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Hegbard Considering their stats at sisi right now, I guess I'd pay around 5 million for a Tengu, since it's not worth more. Its performance is comparable to a Caracal.
Performance never stopped people from paying 40 millions for Amarr Navy Slicer...
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emepror
Gallente X.E.N.O. OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.16 18:48:00 -
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you cant fly the tengu by itself....you need the 5 component parts or it will not work that is why it has such bad setups, you need to use the components to improve them
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.02.16 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Originally by: Demitria Fernir They won't hit the market at first, and their initial cost will be more than you pay for a carrier. that's enough for you to stop talking about it and leave it alone, when with 60m you can fit a way better BC for PVP
So what you're saying is.. the most exciting game mechanic for some time will be unobtainable for a good 75 - 80% of the playerbase.
Nice.
Yeah... so?
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Hegbard
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: emepror you cant fly the tengu by itself....you need the 5 component parts or it will not work that is why it has such bad setups, you need to use the components to improve them
You actually haven't tried Sisi yet, have you?
You can't even assemble the ship without the subsystems.
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:45:00 -
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Current performance of the protheus without any bonuses to recon probably puts it at the cost effectivness of two thorax's This is with place holder stats and 0 bonuses once again.
Considering how difficult sleepers are, considering a 4 battleship sleeper with support requires two carriers with support to take on with minmal losses thier effort probably those in the risk of 5 billion risk factor, so we have to find out how much it salvage per sleeper battleship that is and we can come up with a rough estimate of the artifacts for reverse engineering.
Fullerites will be at the gas clouds minable in the sleeper plexes this ups up the price tag of those too but not terribly to high.
Ore cost of course will also be a factor
then med level of processing this stuff into more complex stuff will cost the amount of fuel required to operate that tower + 50% for inconvience fees.
For the first several copies they will want a return on blue prints however.... there are no BPOs to invent from they all have to be reversed engineered so bo ho the cost of a bpc will have to equal that of the data cores instructions thus dvide that by per run and add another 50% to that cost for inconvience fees.
Then the usual 5% market fee and toss in profits required.
I am having high hopes that the hull is about 2 billion a pop with the subsystems couple hunded million a peice until sleepers are effectivly killable. =============
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: emepror you cant fly the tengu by itself....you need the 5 component parts or it will not work that is why it has such bad setups, you need to use the components to improve them
Wat?
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Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:23:00 -
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All depends on size of wormholes, really. Sleepers need to be blobbable with capships to make them cost effective. What 2 carriers struggle with 20 carriers will be able to chain.
My point is: this stuff WILL be farmed if it's at all valuable bringing prices within reach for those willing to fly the stuff and/or sell a GTC or ten.
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Erick Voliffe
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:34:00 -
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Who cares about price, we're all overflowing with isk right? I think the price will settle at marauder level.
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Laura Steel
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:44:00 -
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It was suggested in another topic that the sleepers on sisi are not accurate in how difficult they will be on TQ. I am inclined to agree. Apparently they were the same as 10/10 boss rats with new models. ----
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Cor Aidan
Imperium Forces Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox Current performance of the protheus without any bonuses to recon probably puts it at the cost effectivness of two thorax's This is with place holder stats and 0 bonuses once again. : : I am having high hopes that the hull is about 2 billion a pop with the subsystems couple hunded million a peice until sleepers are effectivly killable.
If there are pilots willing to spend billions for something only as effective as two Thoraxes...or heck, even as cost effective as a tier-3 battleship...I would call that a supremely irrational system.
I guess that means it will fit in with the rest of New Eden quite well then.
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.02.16 22:11:00 -
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Cruisers < BS T3 cruisers price > BS price.
lol...
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.02.16 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Cor Aidan
Originally by: Nova Fox Current performance of the protheus without any bonuses to recon probably puts it at the cost effectivness of two thorax's This is with place holder stats and 0 bonuses once again. : : I am having high hopes that the hull is about 2 billion a pop with the subsystems couple hunded million a peice until sleepers are effectivly killable.
If there are pilots willing to spend billions for something only as effective as two Thoraxes...or heck, even as cost effective as a tier-3 battleship...I would call that a supremely irrational system.
I guess that means it will fit in with the rest of New Eden quite well then.
Thats with 0 bonuses and place holder stats, Im sure if you start tossing in bonuses youd get something far more effective, also my protheus puts several of my frigates to shame on speed alone. =============
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