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Aselus
Amarr Crimson Right
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Posted - 2009.02.17 06:50:00 -
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Not a flame or anything.. though I will say ahead of time i like the current/old backstory of earth and the EVE gate and etc and etc.
But having watched the new Acropiphia 'opener' on the EVE facebook page(go see it if you have not) and read the book... Do you think they are going to basically replace the backstory or something akin to that since hence forth new players will not be subjected to it?
Just wanting some opinions..
~Aselus ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~Eternal Swordsman
Amarr Victor!
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.02.17 06:55:00 -
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It might become the story of "old wives", aka, 2003 vets and such.
Old guy: "Remember stories about how we all came from the same one planet?" New guy: "Bah humbug!"
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.02.17 06:57:00 -
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Their objective is to show an intro that will introduce new players to the game, not the backstory. When you're first starting up, understanding how the game plays > Understanding the backstory.
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Naibasak
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Posted - 2009.02.17 06:59:00 -
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ccp have been phasing it out for a while, ever notice the day all the star system description boxes changing from interesting individual back stories about that specific system to "star system"? that made me a very sad panda =( |
Aselus
Amarr Crimson Right
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Posted - 2009.02.17 07:03:00 -
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Edited by: Aselus on 17/02/2009 07:03:25
Originally by: Kahega Amielden Their objective is to show an intro that will introduce new players to the game, not the backstory. When you're first starting up, understanding how the game plays > Understanding the backstory.
meh to be honest that old intro was one of the things that made me want to play... defining a struggle and a history to the world I was becoming a part of... And i wouldn't say this new one introduces to the game any better/worse it's just...different... w/o history.
Originally by: Naibasak ccp have been phasing it out for a while, ever notice the day all the star system description boxes changing from interesting individual back stories about that specific system to "star system"? that made me a very sad panda =(
Dam i didn't even notice that you're right! T_T ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~Eternal Swordsman
Amarr Victor!
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Kylezanto
Minmatar The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2009.02.17 07:15:00 -
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Originally by: Aselus Edited by: Aselus on 17/02/2009 07:03:25
Originally by: Kahega Amielden Their objective is to show an intro that will introduce new players to the game, not the backstory. When you're first starting up, understanding how the game plays > Understanding the backstory.
meh to be honest that old intro was one of the things that made me want to play... defining a struggle and a history to the world I was becoming a part of... And i wouldn't say this new one introduces to the game any better/worse it's just...different... w/o history.
Originally by: Naibasak ccp have been phasing it out for a while, ever notice the day all the star system description boxes changing from interesting individual back stories about that specific system to "star system"? that made me a very sad panda =(
Dam i didn't even notice that you're right! T_T
Except for EC- :D
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Trebor Notlimah
Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2009.02.17 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden When you're first starting up, understanding how the game plays > Understanding the backstory.
Hold on, theres a story?
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jam6549
Paladines
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Posted - 2009.02.17 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: Trebor Notlimah
Hold on, theres a story?
Now, this is a story all about how My life got flipped-turned upside down And I liked to take a minute Just sit right there I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air
In west Philadelphia born and raised On the playground was where I spent most of my days Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school When a couple of guys Who were up to no good Startin making trouble in my neighborhood I got in one little fight and my mom got scared She said 'You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air'
I begged and pleaded with her day after day But she packed my suite case and send me on my way She gave me a kiss and then she gave me my ticket. I put my walkman on and said, 'I might as well kick it'.
First class, yo this is bad Drinking orange juice out of a champagne glass. Is this what the people of Bel-Air Living like? Hmmmmm this might be alright.
But wait I hear there're prissy, wine all that Is Bel-Air the type of place they send this cool cat? I don't think sow I'll see when I get there I hope they're prepared for the prince of Bel-Air
Well, the plane landed and when I came out There was a dude who looked like a cop standing there with my name out I ain't trying to get arrested I just got here I sprang with the quickness like lightening, disappeared
I whistled for a cab and when it came near The license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror If anything I can say this cab is rare But I thought 'Now forget it' - 'Yo homes to Bel Air'
I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8 And I yelled to the cabbie 'Yo homes smell ya later' I looked at my kingdom I was finally there To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel Air
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.02.17 07:34:00 -
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Jam spoiled my joke...
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jam6549
Paladines
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Posted - 2009.02.17 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones Jam spoiled my joke...
it had to be done
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Brother Priad
Pear Shaped Mining
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Posted - 2009.02.17 07:39:00 -
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Regardless of whether or not eve's backstory is being changed, it is entirely up to CCP to decide whether or not to do so, it's their universe.
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Zhora Six
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Posted - 2009.02.17 08:03:00 -
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Originally by: Naibasak ccp have been phasing it out for a while, ever notice the day all the star system description boxes changing from interesting individual back stories about that specific system to "star system"? that made me a very sad panda =(
Oh wow, I think I remember that! What a waste, to remove all that content... ___________________________________ CCP Greyscale: Pie is not compatible with the dark, dangerous nature of EVE. We replaced it with Black Forest Gateaux, which meets the necessary criteria. |
Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.02.17 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: jam6549
Originally by: Sheriff Jones Jam spoiled my joke...
it had to be done
But it could've been done something like...this:
Now, this is a whine all about how, My can got flipped-turned upside down, And I liked to take a minute, Just sit right there, I'll tell you how I became the pirate of a system called Aeter.
In caldari prime, born and raised On the mineral fields was where I spent most of my days. Chillin' out minin', relaxin' all cool, And all shootin' some smack in the local cesspool. When a couple of ravens, Who were up to no good, Startin flippin cans in my neighborhood. I got in one little fight, and my CEO got scared, He said "You're movin' all your stuff to the system of Aeter"
I cried and QQd with him day after day, But he repackaged my ships and send me on my way. She gave me an ibis and then he told me to fit it. I put my cloak on and said, "I might as well hide it!".
First camp, yo this is bad, Cap out of juice and they tried to kick my ass. Is this what the players of Aeter Living like? Hmmmmm this might be alright.
But wait I hear they're pirates, gank all that, Is Aeter the type of place they send this scared cat? I don't think so, I'll see when I'll do there, I hope they're prepared for the pirate of Aeter.
Well, the ship docked and when I came out, There was a agent who looked like a DED, standing there with my name out, I ain't trying to get arrested, I just got here, I undocked and hit the cloaker, disappeared.
I whistled for a gang and when they came near, The license plate said "PWN!" and the plates looked sown, If anything I can say this minnie's rare, But I thought "Now forget it" - "Yo miners right there!"
I pulled up to the belt, saw 7 or 8. And I yelled to the gangmate "Yo homes kill ya later!" I looked at my targets, I was finally there, To claim my throne as the Pirate of Aeter.
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RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.02.17 08:06:00 -
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but but but.... have you read the back story
sleepers are all part of that - not very much but they are there there was a long time between the eve gate collapsing and the formation of the empires -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve
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jam6549
Paladines
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Posted - 2009.02.17 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
But it could've been done something like...this:
Now, this is a whine all about how, My can got flipped-turned upside down, And I liked to take a minute, Just sit right there, I'll tell you how I became the pirate of a system called Aeter.
In caldari prime, born and raised On the mineral fields was where I spent most of my days. Chillin' out minin', relaxin' all cool, And all shootin' some smack in the local cesspool. When a couple of ravens, Who were up to no good, Startin flippin cans in my neighborhood. I got in one little fight, and my CEO got scared, He said "You're movin' all your stuff to the system of Aeter"
I cried and QQd with him day after day, But he repackaged my ships and send me on my way. He gave me an ibis and then he told me to fit it. I put my cloak on and said, "I might as well hide it!".
First camp, yo this is bad, Cap out of juice and they tried to kick my ass. Is this what the players of Aeter Living like? Hmmmmm this might be alright.
But wait I hear they're pirates, gank all that, Is Aeter the type of place they send this scared cat? I don't think so, I'll see when I'll do there, I hope they're prepared for the pirate of Aeter.
Well, the ship docked and when I came out, There was a agent who looked like a DED, standing there with my name out, I ain't trying to get arrested, I just got here, I undocked and hit the cloaker, disappeared.
I whistled for a gang and when they came near, The license plate said "PWN!" and the plates looked sown, If anything I can say this minnie's rare, But I thought "Now forget it" - "Yo miners right there!"
I pulled up to the belt, saw 7 or 8. And I yelled to the gangmate "Yo homes kill ya later!" I looked at my targets, I was finally there, To claim my throne as the Pirate of Aeter.
i think i have just been "served".
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Aricaan
Gallente Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2009.02.17 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Naibasak ccp have been phasing it out for a while, ever notice the day all the star system description boxes changing from interesting individual back stories about that specific system to "star system"? that made me a very sad panda =(
OMG they had that?!
Should we rally up the CSM to get this back?
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Navtiqes
Englebarna
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Posted - 2009.02.17 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: Aselus Is CCP Killing the original Backstory?
Who is this CCP Killing and why do you think he is the original backstory?
Anyways, I liked the fluffy original intro, but the whole slideshow thing is pretty dated. Nowadays people want an intro segment with some random combat in it. ..it's not like we were roleplaying anyway so not a big loss. Afterall, it's our universe!
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.17 08:17:00 -
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CCP have never been all that hot on their backstory.
Inconsistencies pointed out to them in 2003 are still there, and new ones are added every time someone new get involved with it at CCP and wants to promote their own ZOMG EPICZ plots.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Nikita Alterana
Gallente The-Kissaki
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Posted - 2009.02.17 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Aricaan
Originally by: Naibasak ccp have been phasing it out for a while, ever notice the day all the star system description boxes changing from interesting individual back stories about that specific system to "star system"? that made me a very sad panda =(
OMG they had that?!
Should we rally up the CSM to get this back?
Aricaan,
warm up the boat. __________________________________________________ I was Amarr before they were the FOTM and I'll be Amarr after it! I'm also training Minmatar Capitals! And I eat Lions! |
Selenica Draper
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.02.17 08:43:00 -
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The only problem I forsee is going to be that if CCP changes the new player experience, specifically creation(after seeing the confusion around character creation - career, race, attributes) it could become extremely hard for veteran players to help & explain the game introduction to newcomers.
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FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.02.17 09:00:00 -
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Yup, it's a shame to see the original intro go.
Original: - a bit too long, didn't really explain capsuleers and no death penalty. - did explain the backstory/races.
New: - It's WoW in Space!
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Isil Rahsen
Ferrum Superum
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Posted - 2009.02.17 09:39:00 -
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The fact that this thread was even posted in seriousness is very depressing to me.
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CCP Ginger
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Posted - 2009.02.17 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Aricaan
Originally by: Naibasak ccp have been phasing it out for a while, ever notice the day all the star system description boxes changing from interesting individual back stories about that specific system to "star system"? that made me a very sad panda =(
OMG they had that?!
Should we rally up the CSM to get this back?
No, im afraid we never did have backstories for star systems. However, relatively recently we did add descriptions for all regions in space, and a few systems that you might find on your travels.
So we didnt remove content. We did however add it.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.02.17 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Ginger No, im afraid we never did have backstories for star systems. However, relatively recently we did add descriptions for all regions in space, and a few systems that you might find on your travels.
So we didnt remove content. We did however add it.
How dare you?! Adding content to MY EVE without asking!
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mcnuggetlol
Amarr Outlandish Operations
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Posted - 2009.02.17 09:48:00 -
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The intro should explain to new players what the game's about and help them understand how to play. If they want backstory there's a **** ton of chronicles they can read
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John Hollow
Minmatar Afterisk
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Posted - 2009.02.17 09:49:00 -
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Not a fan of the new intro. I don't like the whole "you are immortal" part. Kind of makes the game seem depressing or boring. I know we can re-clone ourselves after we die, but putting it in black and white like that seems to belittle the whole "dying" part. I think focusing on the fact you can die (before you re-clone) adds danger and excitement, and telling new players everyone is immortal and power is just traded back and forth between players does not sound fun at all. Actually it bummed me out a bit and I already loved playing the game :).
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.02.17 09:50:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 17/02/2009 09:50:40
Originally by: John Hollow Not a fan of the new intro. I don't like the whole "you are immortal" part. Kind of makes the game seem depressing or boring. I know we can re-clone ourselves after we die, but putting it in black and white like that seems to belittle the whole "dying" part.
About time isn't it?
A bit too long has the "EVE is not like other MMOs where everyones a hero" been an issue
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.02.17 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: mcnuggetlol The intro should explain to new players what the game's about and help them understand how to play. If they want backstory there's a **** ton of chronicles they can read
No. The trailer should explain what the game is about. The tutorial should help them understand how to play. The intro should explain the universe and their place in it.
Right now on SiSi, we have a trailer as an intro and (still) lackluster tutorials, so nothing is explained. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.02.17 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: mcnuggetlol The intro should explain to new players what the game's about and help them understand how to play. If they want backstory there's a **** ton of chronicles they can read
No. The trailer should explain what the game is about. The tutorial should help them understand how to play. The intro should explain the universe and their place in it.
Actually have to disagree more. The intro should explain what the world is, the tutorial should help them how to play and the added stories IN the tutorial should tell about what the game is.
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Graisse
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Posted - 2009.02.17 09:56:00 -
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Edited by: Graisse on 17/02/2009 09:57:35 There is nothing in the new intro about the state of the earth, the first travelers throught the hole, the colapse, etc. The intro is good, but without this key information, it's just pointless.
It's more of a TV advertising than a game intro.
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