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tatonka smith
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Posted - 2009.02.23 08:18:00 -
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Sometimes you do things not because they're practical, but because they're awesome. Hulkamania! is one of these things.
Hehe. If this constitutes awesome, I hope you don't own pets or have small children.
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Zombie Kenny
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Posted - 2009.02.23 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Zombie Kenny on 23/02/2009 13:31:09
Originally by: tatonka smith
Sometimes you do things not because they're practical, but because they're awesome. Hulkamania! is one of these things.
Hehe. If this constitutes awesome, I hope you don't own pets or have small children.
You take internet spaceships too seriously
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Mahts
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Posted - 2009.02.23 13:57:00 -
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It is sad to say, but this "low risk let's get the miner for free with no risk to ourselves exploit" will be fixed the second it starts to affect CCPs bottom line, they are trying to make the some areas game more user friendly which equals more profits, not tick off people who are in high sec space, which is claimed is safer space, while the rest of space is still any thing goes space to keep all happy. Their subscription rates started to rise only after they started to introduce some laws and rules into the game, which by nature all societies want = yes game designers study human psychology. More starter skills, etc, all make eve a more user friendly place. You may not like it, but just like real life these guys will eventually get their own too, perhaps get the orca pilot, the corp they are in, or even "in-gate" scanners to get their pods - there is high tech in eve after all :-)
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Vaerah Vain
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:01:00 -
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Quote:
Less time to react than that. 1st, they scout the belt with non-flashy. Orca drops ship at BM. Gankers pod into system and hop in ships. Still enough time to react, but it's still a way around the security system CCP has in place. Miner loses 100 million, ganker loses 5 million. Only reason it's not called an exploit is the CCP is sooooo slow at dealing with it. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
Hulks should not even be allowed to mine in higher than 0.8 sec. They restricted the big ships to avoid the obvious consequences, they should also restricted Orcas + Hulks squad from stripping whole newbie / tutorial systems in the face of the new players. In the beginning I thought the "rookie chat" alike people where whining for nothing, but then I left (to establish a new manufacturing outpost) my usual 0.5 system and discovered that indeed the "AFK miner bot, profit" 1.0 and 0.9 systems are stripped to bones within few hours past boot, leaving the legit inhabitants (new players) without anything to dig.
As such, the Orca gankers provide for a "damage control" function against the super carebear farmers.
It's not so hard to survive, I am even in faction war (i.e. anyone in FW can shoot me even in 1.0 sec) and live near Villore quite fine. Just be awake, don't use cheat bots, setup the overview to filter nasties, profit.
Of course, the Orca pilot should get CONCORD tagged (and therefore owned), just to make justice.
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Nemo Leroux
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Posted - 2009.02.23 14:56:00 -
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One question - wouldn't this be a great opportunity to strengthen the bounty center? I mean I guess it would be a nice way to make isk hunting down knuckle heads that slip into high-sec and are KOS.
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Imertu Solientai
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: tatonka smith
Sometimes you do things not because they're practical, but because they're awesome. Hulkamania! is one of these things.
Hehe. If this constitutes awesome, I hope you don't own pets or have small children.
Hehe. If you cry over getting your internet spaceships blown up, then you are emotionally immature. I would suggest you go back to mining in highsec, but since that seems too hard for you, may I suggest a certain other game? Click Me
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Nemo Leroux
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Posted - 2009.02.23 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Imertu Solientai
Originally by: tatonka smith
Sometimes you do things not because they're practical, but because they're awesome. Hulkamania! is one of these things.
Hehe. If this constitutes awesome, I hope you don't own pets or have small children.
Hehe. If you cry over getting your internet spaceships blown up, then you are emotionally immature. I would suggest you go back to mining in highsec, but since that seems too hard for you, may I suggest a certain other game? Click Me
Hey lets not bash Hello Kitty!
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tatonka smith
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Posted - 2009.02.24 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zombie Kenny Edited by: Zombie Kenny on 23/02/2009 13:31:09
Originally by: tatonka smith
Sometimes you do things not because they're practical, but because they're awesome. Hulkamania! is one of these things.
Hehe. If this constitutes awesome, I hope you don't own pets or have small children.
You take internet spaceships too seriously
Nope, it's just a game, but qualifying that as awesome is pathetic. Picking fights with someone who has no offensive capabilities is what it is.
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tatonka smith
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Posted - 2009.02.24 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Imertu Solientai
Originally by: tatonka smith
Sometimes you do things not because they're practical, but because they're awesome. Hulkamania! is one of these things.
Hehe. If this constitutes awesome, I hope you don't own pets or have small children.
Hehe. If you cry over getting your internet spaceships blown up, then you are emotionally immature. I would suggest you go back to mining in highsec, but since that seems too hard for you, may I suggest a certain other game? Click Me
Didn't say I lost a ship did I? You getting tough with someone over a keyboard is just as pathetic. This post was to make sure new players knew about the "loophole" that allowed them to lose their hulk.
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
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Posted - 2009.02.24 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: VJ Maverick
Originally by: Xia Kairui
Originally by: VJ Maverick I'm confused. What exactly happened here? What is the OP complaining about? What advantage do -10 gankwads have in popping a hulk that +10 peeps don't?
The main disadvantage for suiciding people in high sec is a security penalty that supposedly keeps you from doing it over and over. But if you are already at -10 there is no penalty at all.
This reasoning makes no sense. -10 is its own penalty. Just because it can't get any worse doesn't mean that -10's all of a sudden get some sort of a free ride once they get to that status. Clearly these people are not worried about penalties, otherwise they wouldn't be at -10. It's not like -2's or -3's can't suicide gank you over and over again. They can. Their penalty is that they will one time be -10. Do you think they will care if you keep giving them more penalties? Like maybe make it go down to -12 or -13? And have the billboards insult them as they are being shot at? I can't believe you guys are seriously making an issue out of this.
dude, that is the coolest idea... do you think they COULD make the billboards shout at you while you're being shot at? and trash talk you while they're shouting? that would just be... cool. |
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loldongs III
loldongs industries
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Posted - 2009.02.24 06:03:00 -
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no one cares about your hulk woes
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MIRAMIRA
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Posted - 2009.02.24 06:10:00 -
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Edited by: MIRAMIRA on 24/02/2009 06:14:57
I always love to see such threads. It tells me a lot about the way some players act in this game and their human nature. It remembers me, how certain governments justified, why they should start certain wars. Unfortunately this happens again and again. Man seem not to be able to learn. So something else has to take over the control.
Go on.
ps: oh, I am pretty sure, as soon as this becomes more popular, it will become fixed like ... the war dec system or scamming etc.
but then again: man do not learn.
pps: oh and I have never been suicide ganked so far. So, no whine, just an observation, I made. Also I saw, if something bad happens, man start to blame others for it or say, it is the victims own fault, even if you catch them red handed. That is like a reflex, some way of selfprotection. Thanks for the heads up to the thread opener. I did not know, this is possible.
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tatonka smith
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Posted - 2009.02.24 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: loldongs III no one cares about your hulk woes
Not my hulk woes. I haven't lost a hulk. But I like how trying to get some info out to miners gets you all upset. But thanks for contunually posting to the thread. That way it stays current and more miners will see it.
It's amazing how a little info sharing is so stimulating to some people. This is the Indy forums, right?
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Capitolize
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Posted - 2009.02.24 13:14:00 -
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I just wanted to shout a Thank You!! for the heads up. I was unaware of the -10 gankwad exploit. It's good to see someone has the courage on these forums to face the pirates on here who are upset that you are getting the word out to the little people of the game.
Good on you and thanks again.
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Gin G
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2009.02.24 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: tatonka smith The orca can haul ships into empire that can be jettisoned and flown by -10 gankwads. The gankwads are then able to jump a hulk b4 the navy can pop them. Keep your eyes open for a bunch of red flashies in local. CCP has apparently accepted this loophole around their sec status at the gates. CCP will, however, wish you luck on replacing the 100 million you lose. Because they care.
Scarr is that you
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brinelan
Caldari Victory Not Vengeance Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.02.24 15:49:00 -
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People have been doing this with motherships in low/null sec well before the orca was even on the drawing board.
And yes, people do live in 0.0 and lowsec and have been successfully dealing with hostiles coming in to kill them every day.. There are some basic tactics that keep them safe, that will also work wonders for stopping this too.
Paying attention to local, set standings, and playing the game with other people (gasp, what do you mean by being social in a multiplayer game) is a start.
Some days you're the bug, some days you're the windshield. |
Irish Blend
Caldari 10045th Logistics Battalion
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Posted - 2009.02.24 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: tatonka smith This post was to make sure new players knew about the "loophole" that allowed them to lose their hulk.
New players can't fly let alone afford a Hulk. There has to be a time where the training wheels come off of your spaceship I like cats, especially with General Tso's sauce
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Alowishus
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.02.24 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: tatonka smith I can't explain the reason other than they think they are upsetting someone.
It's obvious we are upsetting someone (you) and this thread is evidence of that.
Also a mail box filled with hundreds of nasty messages sent at 1 mil each- most of them from the same person- all in broken engrish is pretty awesome. I hadn't put any of them in my bio yet but now that you mention it I think, "YOU LOW IQ YOU WHITE DEVIL PIG!!!" is my favorite and certainly bio-worthy.
The definition of upset is losing 1.2 billion ISK in Mackinaws and then another few hundred mil in CSPA charges crying about it.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.02.24 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: tatonka smith
Nope, it's just a game, but qualifying that as awesome is pathetic. Picking fights with someone who has no offensive capabilities is what it is.
Clicking Undock is pretty much a "I consent to the possibility of someone blowing up my ****" button.
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Lenora Bizette
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Posted - 2009.02.24 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin DeVries Before, the -10 security pirates would have to travel into hi-sec, getting shot by gate guards and such to get there. Probably they'd have to travel in a pod, set up an instant undock bookmark at a station, and acquire a ship there before heading out to gank someone. The ships would need to be provided by an accomplice who wasn't KOS in the empires. Now, they can just bring the ships from low-sec in the maintenance bay of an Orca, bypassing all the guards, and just get dropped off in the system they want.
Personally, I don't mind, as long as the act of picking them back up spreads the aggression rights to the Orca pilot (meaning he's a legit target of players or gets Concorded as appropriate).
Yup. Orca shares aggression; that's got my vote. Also, why not have the faction navy track the pod from the jump gate and follow it? People get followed by cops because they "look suspicious" all the time, just in case they try something. a -10 podder jumping in a ship is like a "suspicious character" pulling a gun; law enforcement reacts, and the crook is dealt with.
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Irish Blend
Caldari 10045th Logistics Battalion
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Posted - 2009.02.24 20:17:00 -
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You want the Gallete Federation forces to do racial stereotyping? I like cats, especially with General Tso's sauce
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tatonka smith
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Posted - 2009.02.25 00:01:00 -
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Edited by: tatonka smith on 25/02/2009 00:02:43 Edited by: tatonka smith on 25/02/2009 00:01:55
Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: tatonka smith I can't explain the reason other than they think they are upsetting someone.
It's obvious we are upsetting someone (you) and this thread is evidence of that.
Also a mail box filled with hundreds of nasty messages sent at 1 mil each- most of them from the same person- all in broken engrish is pretty awesome. I hadn't put any of them in my bio yet but now that you mention it I think, "YOU LOW IQ YOU WHITE DEVIL PIG!!!" is my favorite and certainly bio-worthy.
The definition of upset is losing 1.2 billion ISK in Mackinaws and then another few hundred mil in CSPA charges crying about it.
One more time for the ones who move their lips when they read a McDonald's menu... I have not lost a Hulk. I noticed someone lose theirs, looked in the threads, didn't see it posted anywhere, and posted it for other indy pilots so they would be aware.
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deepfreeze007
Caldari Swordfish LLD
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Posted - 2009.02.25 07:07:00 -
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Originally by: tatonka smith blah blah blah blah whine
So where's the exploit? If it is in fact one, did you petition it?
I'd REALLY like to see the GM's response on that one. ---
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Akira Hiahi
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Posted - 2009.02.25 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: tatonka smith
Whine & cheese
Word has it that the new challenge is to solo gank hulks and also pod the pilot before concorde arrives... seen it true story.
CCP should really implement a graveyard system and recovery of all the lost goods trough automatic insurance... oh wait that's WOW.
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Kusum Fawn
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Posted - 2009.02.25 13:39:00 -
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Solution - Have Concord/Faction Navies Kill -10 pods as well.
Why is it KOS if they dont infact kill you? Sure they blow up your ship, if you undock or jump through a gate, but why dont they kill your pod? You already know that youve had to have been messing with other players to get the -10, so why not? Make you in your "I iz l33t -10 toon" less of a mark of honor, simply because you cant use them as much. Why is empire so friendly to Gankers? sure its a harsh game, but why should you have all the perks? kinda like if i go to nosec, you guys can bubble the gates, and dont get sec hits for killing me, (no witnesses right?) why arent you as unwelcome in hisec as we are in lowsec. ( i agree there should be no hulks allowed in 1.0 or .9 systems)
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Kamikazi ONE
HeadBangers
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Posted - 2009.02.25 14:31:00 -
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They should just make the gates refuse you access to areas of space based on your sec status. Problem solved.
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Kusum Fawn
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Posted - 2009.02.25 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kamikazi ONE They should just make the gates refuse you access to areas of space based on your sec status. Problem solved.
Jumpclones, its not adaptive enough,
so how about killing them?
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deepfreeze007
Caldari Swordfish LLD
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Posted - 2009.02.25 15:46:00 -
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Shouldn't this be in C&P? Has nothing to do with Science or Industry. ---
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Alowishus
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.02.25 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: tatonka smith Edited by: tatonka smith on 25/02/2009 00:02:43 Edited by: tatonka smith on 25/02/2009 00:01:55
Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: tatonka smith I can't explain the reason other than they think they are upsetting someone.
It's obvious we are upsetting someone (you) and this thread is evidence of that.
Also a mail box filled with hundreds of nasty messages sent at 1 mil each- most of them from the same person- all in broken engrish is pretty awesome. I hadn't put any of them in my bio yet but now that you mention it I think, "YOU LOW IQ YOU WHITE DEVIL PIG!!!" is my favorite and certainly bio-worthy.
The definition of upset is losing 1.2 billion ISK in Mackinaws and then another few hundred mil in CSPA charges crying about it.
One more time for the ones who move their lips when they read a McDonald's menu... I have not lost a Hulk. I noticed someone lose theirs, looked in the threads, didn't see it posted anywhere, and posted it for other indy pilots so they would be aware.
Where did I mention a Hulk? Where did I mention you lost anything? I said you were upset, and that your obnoxious replies in this thread prove it.
This has been going since the Orca came out, there have been loads of threads about.
But I'm the idiot? OK...
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intracepta
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Posted - 2009.02.26 14:46:00 -
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thanks for the heads up, i fly near low sec in my hulk and im only 2 months old, i do watch local for people with neg rating with my corp to give me heads up on griefers but now i know if i see a ton of flashing red run like hell
i dont object to these kinda things as its all part of the game and if i go afk in high sec and come back to a floating reck or a helpful message telling me i got podded i dont object
however i dont see why in the game mechanics lore whatever concord wouldnt chase the -10 people down as the 'criminals' they are as soon as they stepped into high sec, and why would a station alow low sec pilots to use the market, fitting bay (thats a question not a statement)
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