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Althair Erin Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 09:38:00 - [1] This is a serious message of love and a call to camaraderie to all the pilots of EVE, especially those in 0.0 First I think it needs to be pointed out that we in Goonfleet have boundless love and respect for our member corporations and our allies. We enjoy their company on teamspeak and in fleet chat, and have invited some of them to participate on our forums, which as you know being a forum based culture that values good posting above all else this is very much like inviting someone into our church. We do not keep pets or slaves as this inherently is a disrespectful and elitist structure that has no place in the kind of egalitarian galaxy the Swarm believes in. Those people who choose to play alongside us do so because they enjoy the game more when doing it, and we praise their good qualities and don't hesitate to gently point out their shortcomings as is normal between real friends. Our allies never get enough love because there simply isn't enough in all of EVE to give them as much as they deserve! Some people are surprised to learn how friendly goons are because their perceptions have been shaded by irresponsible media and partisan posting, but we are always eager to meet other friendly pilots. I myself have repeatedly extended my hand to opponents of our alliance, and I have received many messages of encouragement from like minded people. Messages of surprise were common as well, coming from pilots who had the wrong impression of the Swarm and wanted to open channels for clear communication. In my last thread I called for the younger pilots of EVE to rise in opposition to the old and embittered leaders of their alliances, to declare that they were not content to siege or camp or sit waiting for form-ups that might never come or answering CTA's that don't do anything again and again so that the elder players could accomplish goals of revenge laid down years before any of us started playing the game. Many of you wrote back with great enthusiasm for the idea of more open communication between players in 0.0 going a long way toward laying the ground work for a future beyond the old grudges. I hope that you will continue your efforts (as I have) to bring a more civil element to the bitter wars of 0.0 I know that it can be painful to lose ships and towers and all the elements like mods and anchorable structures that go along with them. I myself have lost a bunch, as anyone can see from our killboard! But I think it's really important to not allow the temporary frustration born from those losses to become a lingering bitterness and hatred that twists away the real point of this game: having fun. It is my belief that some of that anger and pain can be softened when both parties treat each other in a respectful fashion, which is why I have always been an advocate for respectful engagements between opponents. Remember that we are all human, and that we can connect with each other on that level no matter which corporation or alliance we happen to belong to. This is not just a collection of gratitude and pretty words, this is also a call to action! Join with me to create a more civil EVE, an EVE where people treat each other with the respect they deserve as human beings. Forget about alliance or corporation tickers, don't judge people by those- they're ephemeral! But the feelings generated by your actions on each other will last. I want to thank all of you who have stood against us in this game. You have helped to give us focus and channel our efforts. I hope that you understand that without you none of this would have been possible. Fly safe, friends. -------------- The Hope of the younger generation
Venomire Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 09:41:00 - [2] Respect, for our allies and adversaries. May good fortune always find you.
Alei Mulinitej Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 09:51:00 - [3] ** you ** eve this game is horrible
Vincent Athen Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 09:56:00 - [4] Thank you, Althair. I partially agree. As a Merch Industrial representative, I'd definitely be willing to seriously consider the introducing the practice of treating others with much respect to our alliance. While we can obviously not avoid territorial conflicts and the like, it is wholly unnecessary to disrespect our enemies during them. Derogatory comments are seldom as humorous as their users may believe. For example, someone's weight problem or a profession that is considered 'mediocre' is not a reason to make dismissive or otherwise offensive statements. There's no reason we can't politely dismantle someone's empire. Now, to the reason I only partially agreed with you. Love is an awfully strong word, and while I may respect, admire, and feel sexually attracted to some of our allies, using a word like 'love' is rather overshooting the mark, in my opinion. This may be a wider problem for me, with the way the word 'love' is thrown around these days, but I feel that it bears mentioning. GoonSwarm is clearly on its way to turning over a new leaf, and I'd like to help. Hit me up in Alliance chat.
Althair Erin Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 09:58:00 - [5] Edited by: Althair Erin on 22/02/2009 09:57:57 Alei, I will ask you to please refrain from flippant or disruptive comments like that, I'm trying to draw people in to a serious discussion. I have reported your post and asked the moderators to please help me keep this thread on track, there was great success had in my previous thread about altering people's attitudes in the game to be more supportive of a fun, positive atmosphere for the whole player base. -------------- The Hope of the younger generation
Petar Quaresma Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 10:05:00 - [6] pee pee doo doo Kenzoku is a bad alliance
Fyodor Dostoyevsky Minmatar Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.02.22 10:22:00 - [7] I see you are role-playing Jade Constantine. Bravo, sir.
Sitagacha tasekaka Amarr Universal Business Systems	Posted - 2009.02.22 10:48:00 - [8] ** you and ** da police
BogWopit Amarr The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.02.22 11:10:00 - [9] /signed and endorsed. Unlimited love, hugs and spooning to all goon brosefs barring the emo nerd raging yank FC that told me to shut the f*ck up, grow up child. B.
Crimson Justice Gallente Demon Theory UNLeashed Legion	Posted - 2009.02.22 11:12:00 - [10] Originally by: Bog*it /signed and endorsed. Unlimited love, hugs and spooning to all goon brosefs barring the emo nerd raging yank FC that told me to shut the fck up, grow up child. B. Please shut the fck up, friggin emo. Also OP is nice troll, 7/10.
Evocationz Amarr Terra Nostra Shadows Syndicate	Posted - 2009.02.22 11:23:00 - [11] This game is the only game that people can be complete tool's to each other. EVE is nicknamed by other MMO's (Got banned? go play EVE Online) This game is primarily made of players who have been banned from other MMO's, online rpg's etc, you see here, they can do as they like, say what they want, deostroy who they like and ccp think its fun, it's not and the game will eventually crash. So no, there will never be love or any of the sort, it is made up of sad lonley egotitical *****s :P Shamelessly Stolen Sig - it Owns All
RynkarVertigo Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 11:23:00 - [12] This is me posting in a wall of text thread. But mind you I do feel the love in here.
Kiko Goatbiter Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 11:39:00 - [13] fly safe o/
CrushProject Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.02.22 11:44:00 - [14] well once goonfleet dies, ill be all about spreading the love. but you think gbc felt the metagame love? How bout any other game that goons play that they hack, cheat, and smack their way across. Ya i feel the love. If i ever run into one of you guys in rl you'll feel the love all the way to the hospital. another nice total propaganda thread tho
JeanPaul Sartre Amarr THE INTERNET. Goodfellas.	Posted - 2009.02.22 12:52:00 - [15] Originally by: CrushProject well once goonfleet dies, ill be all about spreading the love. but you think gbc felt the metagame love? How bout any other game that goons play that they hack, cheat, and smack their way across. Ya i feel the love. If i ever run into one of you guys in rl you'll feel the love all the way to the hospital. another nice total propaganda thread tho man, you need to put (in game) after that or you'll be getting the B& dude. Just saying (I actually agree with you, ** em all .. let god sort em out (in game)). -- Quote:** If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.
Vincent Athen Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 12:58:00 - [16] Please post below this line for your internet hugs. ----------------------------
Snot Shot Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.22 13:31:00 - [17] Crush thats a pretty itereresting post coming from someone fighting along side Goontards? I would expect that many posts like will come out as Goontards keep loosing space and it's realized how much they have exposed themselves to being kicked from 0.0. Just sayin.... Dr Shot
Bismaru's Ambition Amarr Trigrams Edge	Posted - 2009.02.22 13:41:00 - [18] Locked '...This is a serious message...'
RoboTronic Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 15:19:00 - [19] What this galaxy needs is more posts.
Sasha Lyre Gallente THE INTERNET. Goodfellas.	Posted - 2009.02.22 15:30:00 - [20] what we need is more broken bottle rap3 stories.... Your Blood Goes to my Head and the Music Flows through my Veins
GrapeFist Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 15:40:00 - [21] Originally by: CrushProject well once goonfleet dies, ill be all about spreading the love. but you think gbc felt the metagame love? How bout any other game that goons play that they hack, cheat, and smack their way across. Ya i feel the love. If i ever run into one of you guys in rl you'll feel the love all the way to the hospital. another nice total propaganda thread tho Yeah if I ever see any of those goonies irl ill make them pay
Montasque Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 15:51:00 - [22] Edited by: Montasque on 22/02/2009 15:51:35 Originally by: CrushProject well once goonfleet dies, ill be all about spreading the love. but you think gbc felt the metagame love? How bout any other game that goons play that they hack, cheat, and smack their way across. Ya i feel the love. If i ever run into one of you guys in rl you'll feel the love all the way to the hospital. another nice total propaganda thread tho Hahaha look at this internet tough guy post.
Zzelle Caldari Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 16:11:00 - [23] It is sad to see the anger and hatred here in response to Althair Erin's message of peace, friendship, and goodwill. I would like to echo the request that we rise above this and make EVE a more civil and respectful place. Think of the impressionable young pod pilots of tomorrow. Think of making EVE a better place. It is their future that you are shaping today. They look to you for guidance and inspiration in these troubled times. Do not fail them!
Fitz Chivalry Gallente eXceed Inc. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.02.22 16:22:00 - [24] What the eve universe needs is more titans. Only when every pilot in eve has a titan of their own will we get back to the way things used to be. Amarr willing we will see that day come soon.
Aida Ruiz Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 16:41:00 - [25] Originally by: CrushProject well once goonfleet dies, ill be all about spreading the love. but you think gbc felt the metagame love? How bout any other game that goons play that they hack, cheat, and smack their way across. Ya i feel the love. If i ever run into one of you guys in rl you'll feel the love all the way to the hospital. another nice total propaganda thread tho 4:20 shoot blues everyday
Two Beans Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 16:44:00 - [26] "This humble slave knows what you are talking about. The galaxy needs more love in it, and this girl will love you long time." _____________ His Royal Highness King Two Beans King of CAOD
Yorda Minmatar Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 16:45:00 - [27] I completely agree, and as a peace offering I am offering free hugs on the pr- undock. ---- 06:36 11Thol that we cannot do this anymore 06:36 11Thol we're not no.1 06:36 11Thol we're not best of the best 06:36 11Thol we're average with alot of titans 06:36 11Thol ****ing wake up
Savage Split Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.22 17:29:00 - [28] Originally by: Crimson Justice Originally by: Bog*it /signed and endorsed. Unlimited love, hugs and spooning to all goon brosefs barring the emo nerd raging yank FC that told me to shut the fck up, grow up child. B. Please shut the fck up, friggin emo. Also OP is nice troll, 7/10. He isn't a troll, that's just the way Althair is. You see, he is like Shun of Andromeda in Saint Seiya~
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.02.22 17:49:00 - [29] In the spirit of reconciliation produced by this honest and honourable thread I'll answer some questions raised by the swarm: Quote: Hey Jade / Star Fraction. You are a terrible, terrible pubbie. Your alliance is terrible and has never done anything of note. Hello insects! While it might seem that way from the bottom of the anthill I assure you things are quite different in reality! For example: Star Fraction vs Goonswarm. SF has actually won wars (on our own!) Star Fraction vs Goonswarm. SF has actually won wars against Goonswarm (also on our own!) Star Fraction vs Goonswarm. SF is richer and far more successful in the realm of industry Star Fraction vs Goonswarm. SF is far more stylish with much better posters! Star Fraction vs Goonswarm. SF have better ships, better FC's, better overall combat record Star Fraction vs Goonswarm. SF is bold and sexy in space! I have never seen a GS vessel outside of cyno jammed space that wasn't either a) running away or b) playing station dock games Star Fraction vs Goonswarm. SF has always done better in the alliance tournaments than the Swarm (okay that one wasn't that difficult) Star Fraction vs Goonswarm. SF actually managed to beat BOB in a fair fight! Star Fraction vs Goonswarm. SF with roughly 100 members has been more consistently reported in the news, in EON, on random internet fansites than the Swarm's 5000 members! ouch! Star Fraction vs Goonswarm. SF with roughly 100 members managed to get me elected CSM president while the Swarm with 5000 members came a poor 4th. Star Fraction vs Goonswarm. SF roleplay terrorists and anarchist freedom fighters, GS roleplay "bees". Star Fraction vs Goonswarm. SF has continually mocked and disparaged the military capability of the Swarm while GF itself has never had the courage or ability to make war on us! Star Fraction vs Goonswarm. SF vessels are always available to be fired at by anyone with the guts to click "wardec" - GS vessels hide in cyno-jammed systems 99% of the time while flying in fleets of stronger entities for the remaining 1%. Star Fraction vs Goonswarm. SF is based on a concept taken from a cool science fiction book of the 90s by Ken Mcloud. GS is based on a community of people that only know each other because they have all been conned into paying 10 dollars for access to a discussion forum! Quote: You wasted billions upon billions of isk on a useless titan that you never log in. Also, you continue posting in threads about 0.0 alliances when you really know nothing about 0.0 space. At least we have a Titan! And I imagine this swarm entity is a bit jealous we can afford to have one for show and prestige and general mucking about. Ultimately though I imagine its a bit jarring for the drones to realize they will never have such a ship while their bitter enemies do. You win some you lose some chaps! As for 0.0 knowledge. I personally have more knowledge of 0.0 systems and techniques and far more experience of success than the entirely of the goonswarm. Sorry to burst the bubble little insects but its a point of fact. Spamming towers and blobbing bubbled gates doesn't make swarmites into experts. At best the swarm occupies the role of parasites cleaning the detritus from the underbelly of other entities. No chestbeating is valid from submissive hive creatures without individual identity or record of accomplishment. Come back when the swarm have won a war. Quote: Basically what I'm saying is go back to your stupid pubbie forums and stay out of things you do not understand. Or what? Its not like Goonswarm actually has the guts for a war to fiscally annhilate us is it? Without 10,000 fellow swarmers in 0.0 and the advantages of broken sovereignty, directors commiting emocide and general sycophancy the swarm is capable of precisely - nothing. I trust the goon posters in the thread will continue to respect the mutual friendship and openess expressed by the op! ISSUE - Bring back live events
JeanPaul Sartre Amarr THE INTERNET. Goodfellas.	Posted - 2009.02.22 17:52:00 - [30] Originally by: Jade Constantine stuff Jade, it'll all end in tears, do yourself a favour, learn to ignore! <3 -- Quote: If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.

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