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Ticarus Hellbrandt
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.04.26 21:04:00 -
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This site deserves to be sprayed with napalm and then nuked. The spam is so horrendous that eep eep should be ashamed with his creation. |
Bernie Nator
Talocan Hive Talocan United
230
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Posted - 2012.04.26 21:24:00 -
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I gotta say, sounds like a facebook game.
And I hate facebook games. "Link a friend and get some money!"
How about no. How's about I just go shoot sleepers and make my money the fun way.
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Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
526
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Posted - 2012.04.26 21:27:00 -
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Chribba wrote:It is nice to see that the people spamming are posting here too... Merchant1 wrote:That is just simple, those who complain here must be from similar site like Somer blink or eve risk or any other stuff, that is all :) Just get back to ur own site since this one contains viruses so u should not enter : )
ofc there are no any viruses fellas, and read my BIO for some screenshots on how much u can make ;] http://evelocal.com/stats/p/Merchant1/t/allKelavaster Keetrax wrote:Someone doing negative PR i see :) . Do you really fell so threatened :) . I'm personally playing on this site for like 2 weeks and it's f... gr8 ;D I can only say more by quoting a Dire Straits song : money for nothin' and chicks for free .... and now Click :D http://www.evealopalous.com/?ref=91809759Soon all of ya haters will be assimilated , any resistance is futile :< http://evelocal.com/stats/p/Kelavaster_Keetrax/t/allI also find this very amusing, the two things you said in the SWEDISH channel is something in ENGLISH - http://evelocal.com/Svenska/p/Kelavaster_KeetraxAltho sorry for the off-topic post, I'll let you return to the actual keylogger topic now. /c
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Ancanein
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.26 21:55:00 -
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Chribba wrote:It is nice to see that the people spamming are posting here too... Merchant1 wrote:That is just simple, those who complain here must be from similar site like Somer blink or eve risk or any other stuff, that is all :) Just get back to ur own site since this one contains viruses so u should not enter : )
ofc there are no any viruses fellas, and read my BIO for some screenshots on how much u can make ;] http://evelocal.com/stats/p/Merchant1/t/allKelavaster Keetrax wrote:Someone doing negative PR i see :) . Do you really fell so threatened :) . I'm personally playing on this site for like 2 weeks and it's f... gr8 ;D I can only say more by quoting a Dire Straits song : money for nothin' and chicks for free .... and now Click :D http://www.evealopalous.com/?ref=91809759Soon all of ya haters will be assimilated , any resistance is futile :< http://evelocal.com/stats/p/Kelavaster_Keetrax/t/allI also find this very amusing, the two things you said in the SWEDISH channel is something in ENGLISH - http://evelocal.com/Svenska/p/Kelavaster_KeetraxAltho sorry for the off-topic post, I'll let you return to the actual keylogger topic now. /c
/slowclap
Eep Eep wrote:People are obviously out to bring down EVEalopalous
People hate bots. You use, or at least encourage their use, everywhere. Thus, people hate you. A lot. |
Eep Eep
EVEalopalous
5
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:24:00 -
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I'm sorry you guys feel so negatively. I have no control over spammers. It is just beneficial to them to advertise for me. I could stop giving these benefits, but then the site won't continue to grow. Sorry you guys are so afraid of all the growth. It has exploded quickly and still grows daily =]
It isn't a bad thing.
Also most of the spammers are actually not bots. They are people that are really trying to make some ISK.
The reason you guys see some of the same posters of positive information is because I post in my channel when negative things are posted about EVEalopalous for the users to see. I don't ask them to comment positively, I ask them to comment honestly.
ALSO: Don't forget the proof against these accusations of viruses. https://www.virustotal.com/url/b613daa4d59cd14deb3270068040de9d33572cf9e5353191a8a53e58d76bb017/analysis/1335397874/
If you are weary of the link, try the following link and perform the scan yourself. https://www.virustotal.com/#url
I am simply trying to defend the site that is being bashed by providing proof against the accusations. Believe what you must.
I am no longer posting on this thread. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
63
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Posted - 2012.04.27 10:22:00 -
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Or I dont know, you could stop rewarding people for shitting up chat channels with pointless annoying crap, had one of these retards in our home system yesterday and pretty much every member of our alliance who checked the link had their antivirus scream at them. So **** this idiot and his shady dealings. |
Jekto Altaris
Impulsive Anarchy
6
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Posted - 2012.04.27 12:12:00 -
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Eep Eep wrote:I'm sorry you guys feel so negatively. I have no control over spammers. It is just beneficial to them to advertise for me. I could stop giving these benefits, but then the site won't continue to grow. Sorry you guys are so afraid of all the growth. It has exploded quickly and still grows daily =] It isn't a bad thing. Also most of the spammers are actually not bots. They are people that are really trying to make some ISK. The reason you guys see some of the same posters of positive information is because I post in my channel when negative things are posted about EVEalopalous for the users to see. I don't ask them to comment positively, I ask them to comment honestly. ALSO: Don't forget the proof against these accusations of viruses. https://www.virustotal.com/url/b613daa4d59cd14deb3270068040de9d33572cf9e5353191a8a53e58d76bb017/analysis/1335397874/If you are weary of the link, try the following link and perform the scan yourself. https://www.virustotal.com/#urlI am simply trying to defend the site that is being bashed by providing proof against the accusations. Believe what you must. I am no longer posting on this thread.
Yes... I believe Chribba feels oh so threatened by your little gambling site... that must be why he does it... |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
3308
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Posted - 2012.04.27 12:41:00 -
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Eep Eep wrote:Also most of the spammers are actually not bots. They are people that are really trying to make some ISK. I thought you had no idea about who spammed your links?
Now you claim to know, then you should have a fairly easy task to show that you do not support the use of scripts/bots to spam your links and maybe take actions against them?
I'm not out to get your site or its content, I'm just one of those pilots who are very annoyed by the explosion of spamming users that clutter up local and other channels with their spam.
/c
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Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons Eternal Evocations
50
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Posted - 2012.04.27 13:00:00 -
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@Chribba
Essence Rlivera is one of our folks and we CANNOT get ahold of him by any method currently. His account is presumed to have been keylogged and he has been given a 48 hours notice to respond to corporation mails or his characters will be removed from our corp. Fine player and always around but suddenly account is logging outside of timezone and he's no longer on comms and spends his "brief" 10-20 seconds online sporadically in amarr.
Shady dealings in my mind. Naga stole my bike!
Talos, the official Pizza Wedge of the Gallente Federation. |
Faith Patrouette
Careless Carebears Inc.
8
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Posted - 2012.04.27 13:17:00 -
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I hate this horrid spam in local for one, does nothing for advertisement in my case, a it just makes me block the spammers and move on.
2nd, the name reminds me of a greek restaurant in a shady backhand corner or a small town, which advertises cheap food and lots of it, but does not mention in its advertisement that after attending it you will spend about 3 days projectile vomiting.
3rd.. this thread made me see what my virus scanner would tell me if i asked it to check it out, it gave me a bit fat warning :)
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Tanith YarnDemon
Hypernet Inc. Umbrella Chemical Inc
21
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Posted - 2012.04.27 13:24:00 -
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FIrst off, I've admitably not tried the site, for a very simple reason. I heard of it through spam. So far I dare say 100% of the sites who have primarily marketed themselves through spam have been either proven scams or dubious(I won't list synergy as a scam, yes, the site owner wins most of the winnings, yes, it's probably unethical but not necessarily a scam). This is my personal experience and opinion, nothing else. It explains my lack of experience of your site.
As for the virustotal links, it's fairly pointless for a webmaster to point such a link. Not only are they obscenely inaccurate, but they're also relying on the current state of a site. If someone with access to the site posts a link to it, it's quite clearly not going to contain anything detectable at the moment. This is no different from a scammer in jita posting a screenshot of it's wallet to "prove his validity". Yes, digging up a cached version of the site MIGHT prove some more validity, sadly, I very much doubt anyone savvy and lets face it paranoid enough to keep such things would ever visit a site, such as this one.
As for the part about being unable to control where people spam, ALL other major lotteries and services have managed to do this quite well, to mention a few: BIG, Ships of EVE and Somer.Blink. None of them have any substantial amount of spam in public channels, and the rare occurence of such is typically handled by a slap on the wrist or removal of referral codes. There's no reason a site such as your own couldn't do the same. |
Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons Eternal Evocations
50
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Posted - 2012.04.27 13:32:00 -
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http://www.ipvoid.com/scan/108.167.172.200/ Naga stole my bike!
Talos, the official Pizza Wedge of the Gallente Federation. |
Jebediah MacAhab Dallocort
THE THREE SIX MAFIA Cobalt Holdings Coalition
1
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Posted - 2012.04.27 13:37:00 -
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You spammed your own forum topic with referral links when you had no reason to. Therefore, not only was that stupid, but it tells me quite conclusively that you gained access to those user accounts with a keylogger or trojan.
Well, that and the identical formatting, spelling and grammar of your "users". |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
527
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Posted - 2012.04.27 14:36:00 -
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Tanith YarnDemon wrote:FIrst off, I've admitably not tried the site, for a very simple reason. I heard of it through spam. So far I dare say 100% of the sites who have primarily marketed themselves through spam have been either proven scams or dubious(I won't list synergy as a scam, yes, the site owner wins most of the winnings, yes, it's probably unethical but not necessarily a scam). This is my personal experience and opinion, nothing else. It explains my lack of experience of your site.
As for the virustotal links, it's fairly pointless for a webmaster to point such a link. Not only are they obscenely inaccurate, but they're also relying on the current state of a site. If someone with access to the site posts a link to it, it's quite clearly not going to contain anything detectable at the moment. This is no different from a scammer in jita posting a screenshot of it's wallet to "prove his validity". Yes, digging up a cached version of the site MIGHT prove some more validity, sadly, I very much doubt anyone savvy and lets face it paranoid enough to keep such things would ever visit a site, such as this one.
As for the part about being unable to control where people spam, ALL other major lotteries and services have managed to do this quite well, to mention a few: BIG, Ships of EVE and Somer.Blink. None of them have any substantial amount of spam in public channels, and the rare occurence of such is typically handled by a slap on the wrist or removal of referral codes. There's no reason a site such as your own couldn't do the same.
This....mostly.
Hyperlinks are easily SNAFU'd....you wouldn't be able to tell where it goes let alone what it leads too until you clicked it. Even if it looks safe...it can still redirect you like crazy. (anti redirect mods FTW!)
There is no such thing as a "virus scanner" for a web page because your so called virus isn't going to take place until you actually download the file waiting at the end of the chain of referrals and reroutes.
Oh sure I'm certain people have written things to scan source codes of web pages but its too damn easy to hide that crap in server side languages and various things.... which is why its common sense to NOT click the links. ================ Get PAID FOR SPAM! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=78152 |
Jeniam Retriat
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.04.27 14:39:00 -
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I've seen lots of these links in local around hisec - I had assumed that the site just gave people a standard form message to spam with their referrer link. Outside of market hubs there seem to be quite a few who flit around highsec dropping off the advert in local for each system they pass through - you'll see the message in local, then a few seconds later they're gone from the member list.
I did once ask a spammer in local what the deal with the site was, and got an a reply and dialogue with the spammer, so there was definitely a human at the keyboard that time, though whether that human was the account owner or not I have no idea. |
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
289
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Posted - 2012.04.27 14:58:00 -
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Well, safe or not, gambling still remains something I won't do. I far prefer certainty to chance. |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
137
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:09:00 -
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any site that needs spam in order to grow needs to burn with fire and GTFO On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
Eep Eep
EVEalopalous
5
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:12:00 -
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So you guys are saying that the spam makes the site annoying?
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Eep Eep
EVEalopalous
5
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:18:00 -
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I guess I can eliminate the referral system for now.
On the note about the key logger, there is none. There is no worm, no virus, or any other malicious software.
@ Tauren Tom Essence Riviera has indeed been hanging out in my EVEalopalous channel ;)
He probably made more ISK referring than doing whatever he did for your corp.
I will test what the site works like without the referral system soon. |
Eep Eep
EVEalopalous
5
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:49:00 -
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Tauren Tom wrote:http://www.ipvoid.com/scan/108.167.172.200/
How about you show the actual results? http://hosts-file.net/?s=108.167.172.200
"It should also be noted that lack of a listing in this database, does NOT mean it is "clean" or "safe" (and certainly does not mean it is approved by hpHosts!), it could simply be that I'm not yet aware of it, or haven't yet analyzed it. If you suspect a domain is malicious, and it's not yet listed in the database, please consider dropping by the forums and letting me know. "
The site is indeed very new. Sigh. |
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Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons Eternal Evocations
50
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:00:00 -
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Eep Eep wrote:Tauren Tom wrote:http://www.ipvoid.com/scan/108.167.172.200/ How about you show the actual results? http://hosts-file.net/?s=108.167.172.200"It should also be noted that lack of a listing in this database, does NOT mean it is "clean" or "safe" (and certainly does not mean it is approved by hpHosts!), it could simply be that I'm not yet aware of it, or haven't yet analyzed it. If you suspect a domain is malicious, and it's not yet listed in the database, please consider dropping by the forums and letting me know. " The site is indeed very new. Sigh.
To begin with, insulting my corporation and mates is intolerable. And we don't make anyone in our corporation do anything which they do not like nor do we require they participate in all events we hold. If you insist on attacking people and other corporations then you should do so in some semblance of fair play. Continuing to do such things merely lowers my overall opinion of you and your tactics. Play dirty and get a bad reputation if you so wish. No skin off my back.
Secondly, I linked to the results page which displays all of the tests undertaken and not merely the test evidencing a detected issue. I play fair and don't omit the facts that can be used for both sides. If you only post one side of the story don't expect the rest of the community to be any better in their rebuttals. Naga stole my bike!
Talos, the official Pizza Wedge of the Gallente Federation. |
Eep Eep
EVEalopalous
5
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:06:00 -
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Tauren Tom wrote:Eep Eep wrote:Tauren Tom wrote:http://www.ipvoid.com/scan/108.167.172.200/ How about you show the actual results? http://hosts-file.net/?s=108.167.172.200"It should also be noted that lack of a listing in this database, does NOT mean it is "clean" or "safe" (and certainly does not mean it is approved by hpHosts!), it could simply be that I'm not yet aware of it, or haven't yet analyzed it. If you suspect a domain is malicious, and it's not yet listed in the database, please consider dropping by the forums and letting me know. " The site is indeed very new. Sigh. To begin with, insulting my corporation and mates is intolerable. And we don't make anyone in our corporation do anything which they do not like nor do we require they participate in all events we hold. If you insist on attacking people and other corporations then you should do so in some semblance of fair play. Continuing to do such things merely lowers my overall opinion of you and your tactics. Play dirty and get a bad reputation if you so wish. No skin off my back. Secondly, I linked to the results page which displays all of the tests undertaken and not merely the test evidencing a detected issue. I play fair and don't omit the facts that can be used for both sides. If you only post one side of the story don't expect the rest of the community to be any better in their rebuttals.
Uhhh.... Insult your corp? I guess it is insulting if your corp didn't make as much ISK for Essence Riviera as I did. The truth hurts sometimes.
And all the results you linked all showed clean except for the IP problem which is NOT a big issue.
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Faith Patrouette
Careless Carebears Inc.
8
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:10:00 -
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Eep Eep wrote:So you guys are saying that the spam makes the site annoying?
Spam = annoying
Using spam to advertise your site makes you look desperate. Especially using spam as 'we are better then this and that site! For no other reason then because we spam more!
So no this all does not make your site annoying, it makes your advertising strategy anoying. As do your replies to many people in this topic. |
Eep Eep
EVEalopalous
5
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:11:00 -
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But really Tom, insult your corp?
This is childish. You guys have seen the (proof of no viruses) yet no (proof of any existing viruses).
AND I bet now they will start to come in with false images ;) |
Eep Eep
EVEalopalous
5
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:11:00 -
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Faith Patrouette wrote:Eep Eep wrote:So you guys are saying that the spam makes the site annoying?
Spam = annoying Using spam to advertise your site makes you look desperate. Especially using spam as 'we are better then this and that site! For no other reason then because we spam more! So no this all does not make your site annoying, it makes your advertising strategy anoying. As do your replies to many people in this topic.
Meh, honesty can be annoying I guess.
And I didn't tell anyone how to advertise. They do so on their own free will
(and of course now you will say something to counter this. The never ending online argument) |
Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons Eternal Evocations
50
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:32:00 -
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You insult so many people in this thread, insult corporations saying we don't do for our members what your "lottery" site does for them. I've done nothing but attempt to maintain my tolerance of your brash and self-righteous attitude thus far. I have held my temper in reserve and not simply resorted to "trolling". Many of us have worked hard to establish the corporations and friendly relations we have with other players. My corp mates work as a team every day to make sure we strive for something better and maintain what we have. I try to make sure I match their efforts including a corporation SRP which is payed directly from my own wallet to replace any ships lost by my mates in fights. I buy plex from CCP and GTC through Shattered Crystal to afford to do this. I rat and mine as much as need be to keep enough extra isk in my own wallet and to help fund the corporation wallet so that none of our members need to pay into the alliance SRP and we do not need to bill our members a "fee" to be in our corporation while we pay dues to our alliance.
Yes, I take insult to how you speak about my corporation and my mates.
Referring to other posters as kids while your "supporters" merely spam the thread with referral links rather than aid your argument isn't helping matters. Naga stole my bike!
Talos, the official Pizza Wedge of the Gallente Federation. |
Faith Patrouette
Careless Carebears Inc.
8
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:37:00 -
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Eep Eep wrote:Faith Patrouette wrote:Eep Eep wrote:So you guys are saying that the spam makes the site annoying?
Spam = annoying Using spam to advertise your site makes you look desperate. Especially using spam as 'we are better then this and that site! For no other reason then because we spam more! So no this all does not make your site annoying, it makes your advertising strategy anoying. As do your replies to many people in this topic. Meh, honesty can be annoying I guess. And I didn't tell anyone how to advertise. They do so on their own free will (and of course now you will say something to counter this. The never ending online argument) Sorry faith, I didn't read your complete comment either. "For no other reason THAN because we spam more!"? That is not a reason... oh god are you all kids?
You dont make friends with spam is the bottom line, you make friends or customers with advertising yes, but there is a line between where advertising becomes anoying and thus backfires, and there is also a line between advertising your product in a fair way, or advertising it in such a way people with more iq then a peanut will see it as a bs story.
There is nothing wrong with advertising, but at some point, especially when the market already has well established companies offering the same service, it is best to not overdo it. TL;DR If your product is so marvelous, let it speak for itself.
On top of that there is customer service and attracting new customers, while you took your chance here to change this thread into a free advertisement thread, you played it wrong and you come off as fairly arrogant at the least. So potential new customers looking into the thread and reading it may be tempted to look elsewhere because of this.
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Xai Li Shun
Mussito Existimatio
6
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:39:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/CLYkn.jpg |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
528
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:46:00 -
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SPAM - Means your anything but trustworthy.
Period. ================ Get PAID FOR SPAM! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=78152 |
Eep Eep
EVEalopalous
5
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:47:00 -
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Faith Patrouette wrote:Eep Eep wrote:Faith Patrouette wrote:Eep Eep wrote:So you guys are saying that the spam makes the site annoying?
Spam = annoying Using spam to advertise your site makes you look desperate. Especially using spam as 'we are better then this and that site! For no other reason then because we spam more! So no this all does not make your site annoying, it makes your advertising strategy anoying. As do your replies to many people in this topic. Meh, honesty can be annoying I guess. And I didn't tell anyone how to advertise. They do so on their own free will (and of course now you will say something to counter this. The never ending online argument) Sorry faith, I didn't read your complete comment either. "For no other reason THAN because we spam more!"? That is not a reason... oh god are you all kids? You dont make friends with spam is the bottom line, you make friends or customers with advertising yes, but there is a line between where advertising becomes anoying and thus backfires, and there is also a line between advertising your product in a fair way, or advertising it in such a way people with more iq then a peanut will see it as a bs story. There is nothing wrong with advertising, but at some point, especially when the market already has well established companies offering the same service, it is best to not overdo it. TL;DR If your product is so marvelous, let it speak for itself. On top of that there is customer service and attracting new customers, while you took your chance here to change this thread into a free advertisement thread, you played it wrong and you come off as fairly arrogant at the least. So potential new customers looking into the thread and reading it may be tempted to look elsewhere because of this.
I like this comment. Not childish at all. Advertising is what the users of eve are doing. If it is getting spammed, only thing I can do is create limitations which would be unfair.
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