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MisterAl tt1
Pretenders Inc W-Space
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:48:00 -
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Recently I see much more dynamic holes while scanning w-space systems. Espesially a lot wormholes, connecting w-space with null-sec (in both directions). I have discussed the point with some other people, doing much scanning, and they seem to agree, that too many dynamic holes spawn these days.
CCP, have you changed something? |
Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp AAA Citizens
31
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:51:00 -
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wasn't it you guys screaming about WH space content when it was introduced? i see for see more tears from these guys and i am out of tankers from the goon tears |
MisterAl tt1
Pretenders Inc W-Space
7
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:54:00 -
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^^ what is he about?
Seems like this topic has a direct question: is something changed with the number of dynamic holes? Scanners who think the same are welcome to support the question. |
Gnaw LF
41
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:59:00 -
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MisterAl tt1 wrote:Recently I see much more dynamic holes while scanning w-space systems. Espesially a lot wormholes, connecting w-space with null-sec (in both directions). I have discussed the point with some other people, doing much scanning, and they seem to agree, that too many dynamic holes spawn these days.
CCP, have you changed something?
Did you also notice more people in w-space these days? Do you think more people means more scanning? And if more scanning is happening in w-space then maybe more people land on these dynamic holes and open them up? Ever made that connection?
I can see how this can pose a problem to your game play styles, its harder to control exits in a w-space system with more dynamic exits forming, makes your little invasion / eviction hobby a bit difficult. Maybe you should do another training OP, I hear Aquila Inc can be a good target. |
MisterAl tt1
Pretenders Inc W-Space
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Posted - 2012.04.25 21:38:00 -
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Trolls incoming?
Gnaw, the increse does not correlate with the significant increase of people moving around (cos we don't see any serious increase in that), so I don't think you are wrong in this particular case. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
252
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Posted - 2012.04.25 21:39:00 -
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W-space is the new safesec. |
MisterAl tt1
Pretenders Inc W-Space
7
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:21:00 -
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May I ask pilots, who don't live in wormholes, to move to the next topic? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1420
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:25:00 -
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MisterAl tt1 wrote:Recently I see much more dynamic holes while scanning w-space systems. Espesially a lot wormholes, connecting w-space with null-sec (in both directions). I have discussed the point with some other people, doing much scanning, and they seem to agree, that too many dynamic holes spawn these days.
CCP, have you changed something?
"too many"?
Oh oh. Somebody's ISK output or perfectly comfortable "system" is going to be inconvenienced. To the EveIsDyingMobile!!!
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Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
83
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:27:00 -
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MisterAl tt1 wrote:May I ask pilots, who don't live in wormholes, to move to the next topic?
Maybe you should have posted this thread in a more relevant forum rather than G&D if you didn't want every man and his dog giving you his opinion. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1574
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:29:00 -
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MisterAl tt1 wrote:Trolls incoming?
Did you expect anything less? EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
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Gnaw LF
41
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:32:00 -
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MisterAl tt1 wrote:Trolls incoming?
Gnaw, the increse does not correlate with the significant increase of people moving around (cos we don't see any serious increase in that), so I don't think you are wrong in this particular case.
So all the evicted drone Russian alliances (Bloodbound, VooDoo Tech) establishing presence in w-space is just a figment of my imagination? |
MisterAl tt1
Pretenders Inc W-Space
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:35:00 -
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Masamune Dekoro wrote:MisterAl tt1 wrote:May I ask pilots, who don't live in wormholes, to move to the next topic? Maybe you should have posted this thread in a more relevant forum rather than G&D if you didn't want every man and his dog giving you his opinion.
Very possibly, but I don't know if this is something to be put into issues, so posted it here. |
gramafon
Sacred Temple Out of Sight.
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Posted - 2012.04.26 02:31:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote: Did you also notice more people in w-space these days? Do you think more people means more scanning? And if more scanning is happening in w-space then maybe more people land on these dynamic holes and open them up? Ever made that connection? ...
Of course a lot of N432 in null space confirm this theory ! Year ago I had to scan about 40 systems per 1-2 days in null space - there was about 5-10 wormholes. Now there about 15-20 wormholes by my statistic (In stain region). And main part of them are not k-162. |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
185
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Posted - 2012.04.26 03:08:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:MisterAl tt1 wrote:Recently I see much more dynamic holes while scanning w-space systems. Espesially a lot wormholes, connecting w-space with null-sec (in both directions). I have discussed the point with some other people, doing much scanning, and they seem to agree, that too many dynamic holes spawn these days.
CCP, have you changed something? Did you also notice more people in w-space these days? Do you think more people means more scanning? And if more scanning is happening in w-space then maybe more people land on these dynamic holes and open them up? Ever made that connection? I can see how this can pose a problem to your game play styles, its harder to control exits in a w-space system with more dynamic exits forming, makes your little invasion / eviction hobby a bit difficult. Maybe you should do another training OP, I hear Aquila Inc can be a good target.
Well at least the invasion won't be my fault this time. |
Eidric
Shadows of HyperSpace Wormholes Holders
17
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Posted - 2012.04.26 03:13:00 -
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Also noticed an increase in null\low-sec holes opening up, whether CCP tweaking or someone massively collapsing holes...
Either way logistics became so much easier. |
Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT Red Dawn Alliance
12
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Posted - 2012.04.26 03:15:00 -
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There may be an increase for a couple reasons.
1.) As was mentioned earlier there could be a large influx of displaced drone region corps moving in.
2.) The Japanese client was released a month or so ago here in Japan and I have seen a lot more advertising for EVE here also. There has been a nice influx of new players to EVE Online. I have noticed a significant increase of players online during the Japan/Australia prime times. Many of them could be trying out the W-H life.
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Souvera Corvus
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
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Posted - 2012.04.26 03:40:00 -
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MisterAl tt1 wrote:May I ask pilots, who don't live in wormholes, to move to the next topic?
No, because I like to find your dynamic holes and probe them. |
Gnaw LF
43
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Posted - 2012.04.26 15:46:00 -
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gramafon wrote:Gnaw LF wrote: Did you also notice more people in w-space these days? Do you think more people means more scanning? And if more scanning is happening in w-space then maybe more people land on these dynamic holes and open them up? Ever made that connection? ...
Of course a lot of N432 in null space confirm this theory ! Year ago I had to scan about 40 systems per 1-2 days in null space - there was about 5-10 wormholes. Now there about 15-20 wormholes by my statistic (In stain region). And main part of them are not k-162.
Thats how wormholes work, only takes one K162 to open up into the system, one scanner pop through that k162 and scan down the rest of the wormholes. Once he lands on grid and opens each N432, you have another influx of scanner investigating who opened up into them. Think of wormholes like dominoes, just takes one to affect the entire chain. Also, whats so surprising about N432? The C5 w-space is the most common one out there thus you will see more of N432 then any other wormhole type. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1032
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Posted - 2012.04.26 16:16:00 -
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more people inside and outside opening new holes?
holes don't spawn on their own, players have to warp to one's grid for it to load The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
497
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Posted - 2012.04.26 16:25:00 -
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PCU is up so number of spawning wormholes is up. Case closed. We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast. |
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Messoroz
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
188
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Posted - 2012.04.26 17:09:00 -
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Morganta wrote:more people inside and outside opening new holes?
holes don't spawn on their own, players have to warp to one's grid for it to load
Yes and no. New wormholes that are unopened spawn as a sig. They don't open until warped to. There are more wormholes than just statics that can randomly appear as sigs and be opened which is what people are talking about happening in greater occurrence. N432 for example is one of the possible random signatures for a wormhole from nullsec to C5 wspace, any number of them can spawn in a single system. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1034
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Posted - 2012.04.26 18:25:00 -
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Messoroz wrote:Morganta wrote:more people inside and outside opening new holes?
holes don't spawn on their own, players have to warp to one's grid for it to load Yes and no. New wormholes that are unopened spawn as a sig. They don't open until warped to. There are more wormholes than just statics that can randomly appear as sigs and be opened which is what people are talking about happening in greater occurrence. N432 for example is one of the possible random signatures for a wormhole from nullsec to C5 wspace, any number of them can spawn in a single system.
well afaik there is no limit to the number of connections to a part of w-space I'm unsure if a sig actually has a predisposed connection with a particular end point outside of sec status I have always operated under the assumption that the connection is not made from point a to point b until the hole is spawned, so while most holes will have a solid minimum (ie 1 static and 1 random) of egresses it could potentially have an unlimited number of egresses in total depending on how many sigs are scanned down across the eve universe in any 24 hour period
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Letrange
Chaosstorm Corporation
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Posted - 2012.04.26 19:04:00 -
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Are you sure they are true randoms and not simply the outgoing statics of various system. There are rumored to be whole swaths of newbies to wormholes in there. .-A-. has a wormhole campaign going last I heard, then you've got all the drone russians who got kicked out of the drone regions and don't want to go back now that mins are going to be a problem. All of this leads to an increase in the number of players going into wormhole space which will naturally result in more statics being spawned as k162's. |
MisterAl tt1
Pretenders Inc W-Space
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:51:00 -
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Increased number of people probing for holes does explain k162 holes. It does not explain increase in Z142 holes number. While evicting AAA from on wormhole we had 2 Z142 opening in half-an-hour! |
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CCP Greyscale
C C P C C P Alliance
1255
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Posted - 2012.04.28 12:42:00 -
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MisterAl tt1 wrote: CCP, have you changed something?
Nope |
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
431
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Posted - 2012.04.28 12:53:00 -
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Completely random guess, could this be caused by an increased number of Quantum Flux Generators being installed in sov space? How exactly do those work anyway? |
Michael1995
Lead Farmers Academy Kill It With Fire
10
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Posted - 2012.04.28 14:05:00 -
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I haven't noticed anything personally while roaming around scanning.
More wormhole connections showing up can only be a good thing anyway! One does not simply buy their way into Goonswarm. |
IsTHeRoD
Achozen Dueces TecH
0
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Posted - 2012.04.28 16:13:00 -
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It's a myth that the unscaned wh opens only when someone scans it dowm and warps to it ....
Two sides of the wH are "scanable" Upon creation....
Can CCP confirm that.... ?
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MisterAl tt1
Pretenders Inc W-Space
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Posted - 2012.04.28 20:39:00 -
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CCP Greyscale, thx. However the number looks strange. I'll talk more with other scanners.
IsTHeRoD, it is not a myth unless you can scan a k162 hole that would have "more then a day" cycle timer. k162 is created when someone initiates warp to the hole from the other side.
I've heard people had "loops" home-otherWH-home and they did not have k162 at home before scanned and warped from the other side. |
Calsys
Monks of War
68
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Posted - 2012.04.30 10:58:00 -
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today have two c140 and one z142 holes i think this is looks strange i would like to scan after DT maybe i'll found couple of d792 for full set :D
CCP Greyscale wrote:MisterAl tt1 wrote: CCP, have you changed something?
Nope yea Even if you change something you dont told us a truth anyway :D
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