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CCP Navigator
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Posted - 2009.03.02 01:50:00 -
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Hello Capsuleers,
A news item which has been published here discusses changes to the EVE API. We apologise for the inconvenience regarding this unexpected change and we hope to resolve this issue as soon as we can.
Please use this thread for any comments or queries.
Thank you.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Games, Email |
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Agent Unknown
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.02 01:53:00 -
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Oh, so that's why it said +0 all of a sudden.
Yay first post! ----------------------------------- "What can go wrong, will go wrong." |
jam6549
Outlandish Operations
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Posted - 2009.03.02 02:00:00 -
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your up a bit late, arnt u mate?
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CCP Navigator
C C P CCP
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Posted - 2009.03.02 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: jam6549 your up a bit late, arnt u mate?
No such thing as late when I get a chance to bring news to you guys <3
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Games, Email |
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jam6549
Outlandish Operations
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Posted - 2009.03.02 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: jam6549 your up a bit late, arnt u mate?
No such thing as late when I get a chance to bring news to you guys <3
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Chruker
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Posted - 2009.03.02 02:20:00 -
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So who is getting fired? ----- http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online ----- Top wishes: - No daily downtime - Faster training on sisi - Speedup IGB table rendering |
EliteSlave
Minmatar Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.02 02:30:00 -
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reserved..
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari Life is Experience Rally Against Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.02 03:36:00 -
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Unexpected change eh. One of those things that just happened because you had to change something three tables away that was linked via queries and sub queries and was hard to find.
This would be the case for all spreadsheets and applications that used the api to look at the implants in the active head right?
I hope this gets put back together soon, and I'm so glad that Evemon gave you the ability to manually adjust the stats.
-------------------------- Life is about memories the more the better.
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Dimitryy
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Posted - 2009.03.02 05:26:00 -
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Ah, that would do it.
Thanks for letting us know, hope you get it all sorted out soon.
-Dimi
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Semper Spero
IMR Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.02 05:43:00 -
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Originally by: Chruker So who is getting fired?
Fired? Don't you know that throw peeps off the roof at CCP?
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Jei'son Bladesmith
The Storm Knights The Cool Kids Club
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Posted - 2009.03.02 05:43:00 -
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ooohhh nooooeeessssss
well that explains why my training estimates seemed horribly horribly wrong *shrugs*
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Daisy Blossom
Caldari Morbid Obssesion Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.02 06:17:00 -
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Well it must just be a coincidence then that all of my augs disappeared when I jumped clones a few hours ago. (into the clone that SHOULD have the implants, mind you).
separate issue? known issue?
petition open.
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Talaan Stardrifter
Universal Exports
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Posted - 2009.03.02 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Semper Spero
Originally by: Chruker So who is getting fired?
Fired? Don't you know that throw peeps off the roof at CCP?
No, Fired, as in from a Cannon!
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CCP Whisper
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Posted - 2009.03.02 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Daisy Blossom Well it must just be a coincidence then that all of my augs disappeared when I jumped clones a few hours ago. (into the clone that SHOULD have the implants, mind you).
separate issue? known issue?
Just to clarify: The disabling of the API query for implants has no effect on implants in-game. It just means that any tools such as EVEMon which use this query to determine what implants your character has will get no result. If you have an issue with implants in-game you should file a petition (which you have done) and our GM's will look into the matter for you.
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Lukriss
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.02 10:24:00 -
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Any chance for sp/hr info in the api for future cases where this happens? Just to help us who can't use evemon (running linux, so using gtkevemon). Would be good for all other character monitors as well.
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Locii
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Posted - 2009.03.02 12:11:00 -
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any idea when this issue will get fixed?
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Buckaroo Kamakazee
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Posted - 2009.03.02 12:37:00 -
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Hmmm. Just days away from the new version of EVE that has a skill planning que in it and information for third party planners starts to disappear. Very curious, but I wouldn't want to seem conspiratorial.
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2009.03.02 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Locii any idea when this issue will get fixed?
No, or at least that is what "do not have a time frame" means when translated into English.
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Umbriele
Gallente Natural Inventions
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Posted - 2009.03.02 13:01:00 -
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Thought CCP didnt support evemon?
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Eowarian D
Gallente Indicium Technologies
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Posted - 2009.03.02 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Umbriele Thought CCP didnt support evemon?
I was hoping they would use EveHQ as an example, but they still stick with EveMon.
Devs, you should check out this tool!
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Locii
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Posted - 2009.03.02 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Claire Voyant
Originally by: Locii any idea when this issue will get fixed?
No, or at least that is what "do not have a time frame" means when translated into English.
yes your right it does mean that.. was just hoping that in the 12hours since writing that they may have a clue.. oh wait its ccp we are talking about
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Freezehunter
Gallente O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.02 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Whisper
Originally by: Daisy Blossom Well it must just be a coincidence then that all of my augs disappeared when I jumped clones a few hours ago. (into the clone that SHOULD have the implants, mind you).
separate issue? known issue?
Just to clarify: The disabling of the API query for implants has no effect on implants in-game. It just means that any tools such as EVEMon which use this query to determine what implants your character has will get no result. If you have an issue with implants in-game you should file a petition (which you have done) and our GM's will look into the matter for you.
The exact same thing happened to me, CCP, like this guy, i lost a full +4 set after i got podded,and instead of activating my med clone, the game activated a jumpclone i had in empire (my backup +4)...
I filed a petition and got the finger, like i always do...
Fix your ****ing bugs or remove implants from the game alltogether... _________________________________________________ Yo mommah! |
Gidgiddonah
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Posted - 2009.03.02 14:55:00 -
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Ah, that explains it. I was wondering about the +0 thing in evemon. I noticed it was correct ingame but missing from the API. No worries, I'll do the math by hand. (pulls out the slide-rule) |
Lord Orerram
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Posted - 2009.03.02 15:50:00 -
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I am more interested in the specific performance issues the databases were having...
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Cory Sopapilla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.02 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Orerram I am more interested in the specific performance issues the databases were having...
Me too. Is the new hardware they just installed having issues or just the data that was transferred to it?
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Marlenus
Caldari Ironfleet Towing And Salvage Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.03.02 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Orerram I am more interested in the specific performance issues the databases were having...
Yes, this did seem like one of those strange "what happened but not why it happened" news items that always leaves me feeling like something interesting went unsaid. ------------------ Ironfleet.com |
Rivqua
Caldari Omega Wing R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2009.03.02 19:34:00 -
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Actually, evemon is only partially affected by this. It shows the wrong training speed, but your end time (for knowing when to change skills) is still correctly displayed. just a FYI for everyone who is panicking.
_________________ - Rivqua - --- R.E.P.O. --- |
Remmon
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.03.02 22:27:00 -
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That would be because the skill training completion time is still in API, and EVEmon does not bother calculating it itself when it can just get it from the API.
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Amida Ta
German Mining and Manufacture Corp.
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Posted - 2009.03.03 08:10:00 -
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Edited by: Amida Ta on 03/03/2009 08:15:28 Could we at least get the Implant TypeIDs? This should not be any perf problem, right? And please fast! And by fast I mean something like within this week.
BTW: Not a nice move to not give any prior notice for that changes. It's not like this would have been soo pressing that you could not have waited a week after announcing that.
P.S.: In EveAI.Live the change means that in the CharacterSheetAPI total values (like AttributeIntelligenceTotal) and the times that are needed for all learned skills will currently be wrong if you have implants. SkillInTrainingAPI is unaffected and still returns the correct completion times, skillpoints gained per second and current skillpoints.
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Roc Wieler
Freeform Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.03 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: Roc Wieler on 03/03/2009 14:46:44 Yeah, can't say I'm too fond of this either. We just put Capsuleer v1.1 into Beta test this week, and now all our skill training time calculations are way off.
Please, can this be given some priority as there are a lot of third party tool developers out there that rely on this little piece of information.
Much appreciated.
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Maeglin Narmolanya
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Posted - 2009.03.03 14:56:00 -
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CCP has recently disappointed me just a few too many times. They seem to be more interested in adding new features and drawing in new players than fixing existing problems. I can understand temporarily removing something from the API if it is causing a performance problem, however a reasonable timeline should have been conveyed as to when it will be restored. Instead users are left in the dark.
This seems to be CCPÆs trend. They would rather remain silent than convey bad news. There have been connection issues that clearly can only be resolved by CCP, however they have again remained silent. No one even knows if CCP is actively working to solve any of these issues. Their known issues page doesnÆt even acknowledge the existence of these problems. Because of the connection issues, I canÆt play the game for an hour without several disconnects. Now the offline tools are breaking as well!
CCP, forget about this new APOCRYPHA patch. Fix what is broken before concentrating on new material. Communicate better with us all even if it is bad news. Provide status updates and realistic timelines on these issues. Start paying attention to paying customers before they leave.
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Agent Unknown
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.03 16:48:00 -
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This will be fixed
Like the dev post said, you can put in "manual implant groups" to re-apply your implants, or just use the implant calculator to fix your times if you're lazy
Maybe a workaround could be for the API to report base stats w/the implants instead of just the base stats? Although, that does have problems in itself...bah... ----------------------------------- "What can go wrong, will go wrong." |
Vessper
Indicium Technologies
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Posted - 2009.03.03 19:53:00 -
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Looks like the implant issue in the API is resolved.
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Trebor Daehdoow
Gallente Sane Industries Inc. United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.03 21:58:00 -
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Umm... not quite.
For one of my characters, I either get the current implant info, one from earlier today (before I plugged in a new implant), or no implant info at all.
It's been flipping between these states all day. World Domination - It's fun for the entire family! EViE - The iPhone / iPod Touch Skill Training Monitor
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Trebor Notlimah
Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2009.03.03 23:03:00 -
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^^ WTF Woodhead -- get more original......
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Dablitor
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Posted - 2009.03.04 06:24:00 -
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Hey Guys,
can you please a little bit mor "real" on the Topic and cut the Marketing stuff !
That "one sentence" explanation is far for any reason ;(
Fact that I know , hey they found an "issue" and that they have no "timeframe" when they want to fix it, great ;( , because the shiny new content is on the horizont.
*WHAT THE F*** IS GOING ON*
I rely on the evemon as it gives me the overview , and with many other users i have more then one account. To manually "fix" the Problem needs Time on my side.
Super ... nice move.
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Agent Unknown
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.04 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: Dablitor Hey Guys,
can you please a little bit mor "real" on the Topic and cut the Marketing stuff !
That "one sentence" explanation is far for any reason ;(
Fact that I know , hey they found an "issue" and that they have no "timeframe" when they want to fix it, great ;( , because the shiny new content is on the horizont.
*WHAT THE F*** IS GOING ON*
I rely on the evemon as it gives me the overview , and with many other users i have more then one account. To manually "fix" the Problem needs Time on my side.
Super ... nice move.
Welcome to the IT world, where things break, developers don't know what the exact cause is, and thus the end-users rage when things don't work exactly as they want it to be.
The issue will be fixed , so just wait it out and do it manually in the meantime. ----------------------------------- "What can go wrong, will go wrong." |
Trebor Daehdoow
Gallente Sane Industries Inc. United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.04 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Trebor Notlimah ^^ WTF Woodhead -- get more original......
Hey, same to you, buddy! I've been Trebor online since 1981! World Domination - It's fun for the entire family! EViE - The iPhone / iPod Touch Skill Training Monitor
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Yllerim
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Posted - 2009.03.04 23:12:00 -
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God, some of you guys are the hugest whiny children.
CCP is not under some sort of "contract" to let us know what their internal problems are. As far as I know, they aren't even under contract to provide an API at all, and considering how many other MMO's out there are completely closed, we should be a little thankful that they even let us know what was changed.
When it comes to "Fix the game before moving on" The development teams are probably completely split. The bug fixers are separate from the new content guys. This is done for efficiency, and is just the way it works.
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Zephira Starchaser
Minmatar DRUCKWELLE Evolution
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Posted - 2009.03.05 11:42:00 -
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Works again for me!
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Gone'Postal
Void Engineers Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.05 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Zephira Starchaser Works again for me!
& me
Originally by: masternerdguy
Officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
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Gunnanmon
Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2009.03.08 07:00:00 -
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I finally find a reason why Evemon was ****ed. I bet all that implant data was totally ****ing up the database, eh?
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