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Bate Sol
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Posted - 2009.03.02 01:59:00 -
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Okay before i get flame tarded, no i havn;t just died because of one, im getting annoyed at having to leave targets cause falcons are attached.
My argument is this, the Falcon can use Ecm jammers, to a range of 200km (with rigs), firstly no other Ewar recon from another race can achive even hald of this race. Secondly it puts the falcon out of harms way. Why must rapiers, arazu and pilgrims risk there necks in close to medium range combat, when a falcon is farily safe out at 200km.
My second argument is why can a falcon effectivly kill multiple ship's locking abilites, where as any other recon with an effective fit can nuke 1 maybe 2.
Serriosuly i just wish they would reduce the range to say 50km so we have a chance to nail the feker, if its screwing us over.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.02 02:06:00 -
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The Falcon is only out of line with the other recons if you assume that all four recons have the same role. They do not. -----------
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Bate Sol
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Posted - 2009.03.02 02:07:00 -
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i bleive it out of line given the only effective counter to a decent falcon pilot is your own falcon...
my arazu is vunerable to a whole range of ships and setups
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Malarkie
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Posted - 2009.03.02 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Bate Sol Okay before i get flame tarded, no i havn;t just died because of one, im getting annoyed at having to leave targets cause falcons are attached.
My argument is this, the Falcon can use Ecm jammers, to a range of 200km (with rigs), firstly no other Ewar recon from another race can achive even hald of this race. Secondly it puts the falcon out of harms way. Why must rapiers, arazu and pilgrims risk there necks in close to medium range combat, when a falcon is farily safe out at 200km.
My second argument is why can a falcon effectivly kill multiple ship's locking abilites, where as any other recon with an effective fit can nuke 1 maybe 2.
Serriosuly i just wish they would reduce the range to say 50km so we have a chance to nail the feker, if its screwing us over.
Please bring your falcons in line with my guns.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.02 02:12:00 -
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Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 02/03/2009 02:13:01
Originally by: Bate Sol i bleive it out of line given the only effective counter to a decent falcon pilot is your own falcon...
my arazu is vunerable to a whole range of ships and setups
Learn to fit long range weapons, and you will not have this problem.
Also learn that the Arazu and Falcon have very different roles, so comparing their weaknesses is just stupid. -----------
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tropic89
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Posted - 2009.03.02 02:39:00 -
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OMG STFU you whining *****.
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Smirna Auff
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Posted - 2009.03.02 02:51:00 -
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With the Apocryphica probing changes, a lot of things, like Arazus, become pretty decent Falcon deterrents. With this next patch, a warpin on a falcon is only a 10 second scan away. A tach Apoc or something is still a better counter, but now you have a lot more options if fielding a papertank BS isn't an option.
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LegendInMyOwnMind
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Posted - 2009.03.02 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin The Falcon is only out of line with the other recons if you assume that all four recons have the same role. They do not.
So what do you see as the Falcon's role and what other ships are effective at this role?
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MenanceWhite
Amarr SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.03.02 03:05:00 -
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wtb 200km warp scramblers / nos / nuet / tps / webs
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Originally by: Torfi There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2009.03.02 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: LegendInMyOwnMind
Originally by: Merin Ryskin The Falcon is only out of line with the other recons if you assume that all four recons have the same role. They do not.
So what do you see as the Falcon's role and what other ships are effective at this role?
Clearly the role of the Falcon is to inspire the creation of whine posts ad nauseum. Since the nano nerf no other ship is better in this role. Just sayin. 
Patri
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De Guantanamo
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Posted - 2009.03.02 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: MenanceWhite wtb 200km warp scramblers / nos / nuet / tps / webs

Actually...
A maxed skilled, mind linked Claymore with interdiction maneuvers mounted will push an overloaded, Arazu's tackle gear (Faction fit of course) out to 100kmish .
Not quite 200km but damn, if I got tackled from 100km I'd probably **** my pants .
Bit skill intensive though 
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.03.02 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: De Guantanamo
Originally by: MenanceWhite wtb 200km warp scramblers / nos / nuet / tps / webs

Actually...
A maxed skilled, mind linked Claymore with interdiction maneuvers mounted will push an overloaded, Arazu's tackle gear (Faction fit of course) out to 100kmish .
Not quite 200km but damn, if I got tackled from 100km I'd probably **** my pants .
Bit skill intensive though 
I miss the pre qr officer web rapier 
that and an arazu (with 3 damps) can damp a falcon with sensor booster (targeting range) and info warfare 5 gang bonus to 35.75 km (32.5 km with no gang bonus) lock range. the arazu has 48km point range 
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arbiter reformed
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.03.02 05:17:00 -
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guys ccp has already said in that q&a post that falcons are getting nerfed
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Warrio
Southern Cross Incorporated Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.03.02 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: arbiter reformed guys ccp has already said in that q&a post that falcons are getting nerfed
It's true. I pick the next FotM will be Stealth Bombers since they are currently ****house. sXe |

Rordan D'Kherr
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Posted - 2009.03.02 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Warrio
Originally by: arbiter reformed guys ccp has already said in that q&a post that falcons are getting nerfed
It's true. I pick the next FotM will be Stealth Bombers since they are currently ****house.
Next will be Amarr. You will see.
And I will laugh at the falcon whiners who still get jammed after the Falcon nerf, because you still fail at pvp against ECM 
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Katedralen
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Posted - 2009.03.02 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: arbiter reformed guys ccp has already said in that q&a post that falcons are getting nerfed
Link to this please ?!
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.03.02 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Bate Sol
My argument is this, the Falcon can use Ecm jammers, to a range of 200km (with rigs), firstly no other Ewar recon from another race can achive even hald of this race..
Your first fail
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.03.02 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Bate Sol i bleive it out of line given the only effective counter to a decent falcon pilot is your own falcon...
Your second fail.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.03.02 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: arbiter reformed guys ccp has already said in that q&a post that falcons are getting nerfed
proof or stfu
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2009.03.02 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: arbiter reformed guys ccp has already said in that q&a post that falcons are getting nerfed
I heard that they were looking into several things and one of them was falcons because somebody brought it up, but that is a long way from saying they are gonna be nerfed. Unless i missed a new one that said summat differently it was a passing comment to placate whiners that they give every topic that is presented them.
Q & A comments/whines actually get nerfed less than 1% of the time.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.03.02 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: MenanceWhite wtb 200km warp scramblers / nos / nuet / tps / webs

wtb falcon with speed, tank, 50mbit bandwidth, drone bonuses, secondary ewar.
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Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.03.02 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Bate Sol Okay before i get flame tarded, no i havn;t just died because of one, im getting annoyed at having to leave targets cause falcons are attached.
My argument is this, the Falcon can use Ecm jammers, to a range of 200km (with rigs), firstly no other Ewar recon from another race can achive even hald of this race. Secondly it puts the falcon out of harms way. Why must rapiers, arazu and pilgrims risk there necks in close to medium range combat, when a falcon is farily safe out at 200km.
My second argument is why can a falcon effectivly kill multiple ship's locking abilites, where as any other recon with an effective fit can nuke 1 maybe 2.
Serriosuly i just wish they would reduce the range to say 50km so we have a chance to nail the feker, if its screwing us over.
You cant even speak , why dont you just go back to wow ?
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2009.03.02 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: MenanceWhite wtb 200km warp scramblers / nos / nuet / tps / webs

wtb falcon with speed, tank, 50mbit bandwidth, drone bonuses, secondary ewar.
You forgot the guaranteed effect those other systems get....so 100% guaranteed perma jam ecm units as well pls...
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.03.02 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: MenanceWhite wtb 200km warp scramblers / nos / nuet / tps / webs

wtb falcon with speed, tank, 50mbit bandwidth, drone bonuses, secondary ewar.
You forgot the guaranteed effect those other systems get....so 100% guaranteed perma jam ecm units as well pls...
Ah yes, thanks. I really should just keep a reply in notepad to C&P against these entirely unoriginal, repeatedly refuted ignorant FalconWhinesÖ.
Of course it's pretty likely that the OP is a troll - no S&M posting history, poor typing, no real attempt at an argument, just a rehash of the lowest level of whining.
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welsh wizard
0utbreak KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.03.02 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: MenanceWhite wtb 200km warp scramblers / nos / nuet / tps / webs

wtb falcon with speed, tank, 50mbit bandwidth, drone bonuses, secondary ewar.
Also dps, we want some damage! --------------- RIP Crazy Horse |

Research Rachel
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Posted - 2009.03.02 11:30:00 -
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ffs, when will people learn to adapt instead of whining like little 5 year olds.
There is plenty of counters to falcons, anyone who whines clearly doesn't have a clue.
As for the 200km... that is the top end of the falloff. Plus, if your meeting pilots with 200km bm's then maybe you need to stop roaming other peoples homes and go back to mining in empire cos you clearly fail at roaming 
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Hugh Ruka
Exploratio et Industria Morispatia
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Posted - 2009.03.02 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: welsh wizard
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: MenanceWhite wtb 200km warp scramblers / nos / nuet / tps / webs

wtb falcon with speed, tank, 50mbit bandwidth, drone bonuses, secondary ewar.
Also dps, we want some damage!
the bandwidth and drone bonuses will help there ... with always effective ECM modules, you don't need that much damage to down an opponent (old Rook days anyone? ). --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed ! |

7shining7one7
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Posted - 2009.03.02 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin The Falcon is only out of line with the other recons if you assume that all four recons have the same role. They do not.
allways knew you were a falcon ***.. fits your mentality so well 
you're about as clueless about the game as you are about life..
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Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.03.02 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: 7shining7one7 cry baby
Looks like you have no clue about the game itself.
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7shining7one7
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Posted - 2009.03.02 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 02/03/2009 12:45:38
Originally by: Naomi Knight
Originally by: 7shining7one7 cry baby
Looks like you have no clue about the game itself.
please point out what is incorrect about the above statements.. i wait with baited breath in anticipation for your elaborate response.
edit.. please close your formatting blocks correctly so it doesn't all turn italic fgs you noob.
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