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Dark Motoko
Caldari Stormlord Battleforce Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.03.02 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 02/03/2009 14:16:55
Ultimately CCP do need to take steps here and they need to be fairly draconian ones to address the pure scale of the problem.
1. They could simply remove the forum. (easy, direct, runs the danger of goons and friends spamming other forum categories.)
2. They could get extremely harsh on moderation again. (might seem like a good idea but I've seen where this leads - give a 5000 member entity the power to petition over posters into a permaban and don't be surprised when everyone gets banned bar the ones who care enough to spam the moderators with fake complaints.)
Or, let's try something new:
How about CAOD becomes a forum where a corporation or alliance needs to request posting rights from the moderation team rather than having them automatically. This would prevent the alt posting alliances immediately since the moderators could use a little human judgement in assessing the suitability of CAOD posting organizations.
And at the same time, let's have collective posting bans on the organizational level. If too many Goon posters are spamming threads lets have the moderators able to give the goonswarm a temp 48 hour posting ban for it. This would encourage the alliance leaders of Goonswarm (or anyone else) to enforce better posting standards on their membership.
Ultimately I'd like to see CAOD posting to be controlled from an in game role assignment (perhaps a PR function) and the leaders of alliances/corporations could treat it as a privilege to be earned not as a right to be misused.
The combination of application/needed to post on CAOD / collective temp bans would control the current situation in my opinion and return CAOD to a more reasonable and constructive environment to discuss space politics.
And it would also present a far better selling point and storefront for CCP to showcase the beautiful political game of the single server environment.
This, and the post immediately previous to it on page three is worthy of it's own thread, and frankly some form of petition movement to get it done. The idea is excellent and makes a lot of common sense, and would actually add something to the game rather than the current scenario whereby we're powerlessly watching matters getting worse, due to one particular group.
By the by, I wasn't aware of the level that Goons and Darius Johnson had taken their abuse of you to. To contact real world business contacts to extend such a personal attack is just beyond the pail. Frankly if what you said is accurate Darius should be struck off from the CSM, not to mention given a ban.
This game is not a place for personal attacks and sexual inuendo and to my knowledge this is extensively covered in the agreement we all make when we install the software. Darius Johnson and those who follow him have evidently forgotten this.
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Fados
Amarr Radically Awesome People Eaters End of The Line.
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Posted - 2009.03.02 17:39:00 -
[152]
no I won't give up on this forum while it's description reads
'From political conflicts to battle reports, news, and corporation press releases'
ergo: not a gf.com extension. when i wanna read funny(not) memes i'll go to 'that'place, and when I wanna read about internet spaceships battlereports I'd like to find them here, without having to shove thru handfulls of 'culture'.
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Kharnifex
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.02 17:41:00 -
[153]
This just in from the battlefield:
I'm gay.
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Dark Motoko
Caldari Stormlord Battleforce Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.03.02 17:41:00 -
[154]
Originally by: 128th ABC123
Originally by: Jade Constantine Hell, last night we had the goon CSM delegate swearing and shouting, calling me a "poofter" and saying that he'd have beaten me up in iceland if his wife hadn't stopped him
Not exactly great behaviour from an elected player representative for Eve really is it?
And of course this isn't new. Back to last year again while I was contesting the first CSM campaign the goons ran a program of harassment against me where they hosted a website registered in my character name, took my CV from personal webspace and mailed an allegation that I was actually working as an "internet prostitute" to three of my previous clients in the weeks before the election result.
And of course the ironic thing is that those same goons are still referencing and routinely linking to exactly the same material night after night (now) with the tacit and overt encouragement of their CSM delegate Darius JOHNSON.
Now I'm lucky. I'm self-employed, I come from a professional community that is quite internet savvy and knows a fair bit about gaming and generation-x angst and has read about goons before. My business contacts laugh off this stuff but seriously. I could see that some players would actually be significantly harmed by this kind of behaviour - it's absolutely not acceptable.
Wow.. am I the only one that thinks this is completely unacceptable??? Real life harassment over a video game?
Exactly
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Montasque
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.02 17:48:00 -
[155]
Look at all the impotent rage in this thread.
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Ryuga VonRhaiden
Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.03.02 17:56:00 -
[156]
there are 6000 goons against an average of 200.000 subscriptions... it's 3% of the total game population... yet the goons make more than 50% of an average thread on CAOD, no matter what the topic is about (bob, goons, NC, or even some random small alliance nobody has ever heard of)...
mostly the posts are total rubbish... in this very thread most goon posts are like
"This just in from the battlefield:
I'm gay."
"who's jade constantine?"
and a dozen posts edited because of trolling and personal attacks...
so, yes, i just read SHC forums for info, i check CAOD for those rare threads that add some info to what i see on SHC :)
Do not try and find the signature... that's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth... There is no signature. |
Kharnifex
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.02 17:58:00 -
[157]
i too, can pull numbers out of my ass
also, kengokuu isn't winning despite what you read on ****heap
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Fados
Amarr Radically Awesome People Eaters End of The Line.
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Posted - 2009.03.02 18:00:00 -
[158]
Behold the vanguard of Internet posting. The mighty literary value of Goonsvarmus shall be forever remembered in the great tube halls of history.
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Montasque
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.02 18:12:00 -
[159]
Hey guys, if you dont like CAOD why dont you post threads with interesting content, or keep us up to date on the goings on of your corps and or alliances?
Oh I forgot, you got nothing going on, and the only point of interest is *****ing about how bad CAOD is.
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Harry Besebes
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.02 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Monti Reagan Jade Constantine, though in a rather pedantic and pompous way made valid points in yet another Goonie "we killed BoB" chest-beating thread and promptly a day after, there was a thread where players openly and covertly insinuated he was a homosexual.
hahaha
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Commander Tigre
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.02 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Montasque Hey guys, if you dont like CAOD why dont you post threads with interesting content, or keep us up to date on the goings on of your corps and or alliances?
Oh I forgot, you got nothing going on, and the only point of interest is b****ing about how bad CAOD is.
Quoted for truth.
"We Choose to listen to the lies we don't want to hear. The truth is, you're already dead." |
128th ABC123
Caldari Eve Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.03.02 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Montasque Look at all the impotent rage in this thread.
Look at you being utterly bitter. If CAOD is not relevant why do you constantly post in it.
Oh and grow up with the silly one-liners, its not funny nor is it whitty.
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Montasque
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.02 18:29:00 -
[163]
Originally by: 128th ABC123
Originally by: Montasque Look at all the impotent rage in this thread.
Look at you being utterly bitter. If CAOD is not relevant why do you constantly post in it.
Oh and grow up with the silly one-liners, its not funny nor is it whitty.
u mad?
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Dianeces
Minmatar The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.02 18:37:00 -
[164]
Originally by: 128th ABC123
Oh and grow up with the silly one-liners, its not funny nor is it whitty.
*witty
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128th ABC123
Caldari Eve Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.03.02 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Montasque
Originally by: 128th ABC123
Originally by: Montasque Look at all the impotent rage in this thread.
Look at you being utterly bitter. If CAOD is not relevant why do you constantly post in it.
Oh and grow up with the silly one-liners, its not funny nor is it whitty.
u mad?
No, u?
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O Thief
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.02 19:00:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Dark Motoko
Originally by: 128th ABC123
Originally by: Jade Constantine Hell, last night we had the goon CSM delegate swearing and shouting, calling me a "poofter" and saying that he'd have beaten me up in iceland if his wife hadn't stopped him
Not exactly great behaviour from an elected player representative for Eve really is it?
And of course this isn't new. Back to last year again while I was contesting the first CSM campaign the goons ran a program of harassment against me where they hosted a website registered in my character name, took my CV from personal webspace and mailed an allegation that I was actually working as an "internet prostitute" to three of my previous clients in the weeks before the election result.
And of course the ironic thing is that those same goons are still referencing and routinely linking to exactly the same material night after night (now) with the tacit and overt encouragement of their CSM delegate Darius JOHNSON.
Now I'm lucky. I'm self-employed, I come from a professional community that is quite internet savvy and knows a fair bit about gaming and generation-x angst and has read about goons before. My business contacts laugh off this stuff but seriously. I could see that some players would actually be significantly harmed by this kind of behaviour - it's absolutely not acceptable.
Wow.. am I the only one that thinks this is completely unacceptable??? Real life harassment over a video game?
Exactly
I'm almost ashamed to be a human being when I read stuff like that.
And I'm definately ashamed to be sharing an internet spaceship server with those maladjusted freaks.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.03.02 19:03:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Uh, what's wrong with calling Jade a homosexual ? We're talking about a guy here who lies to people out of game and out of character about his RL gender.. Besides "homosexual" isn't really much of an insult anyway unless you're a homophobe.
How about using out of character insults and personal attacks as a means of harassing an Eve player is both against the eula and the forum rules?
This forum is supposed to be about politics between corporations and alliances - every time you use it to perpetuate a campaign of harassment aimed at the player not the character you are breaking the basic rules of subscription you agreed to when you signed up for this game.
I know at the moment you think the eula doesn't apply to you Tyrrax - but hey, one of these days it may be that somebody remembers what it says.
Apply to me ? do please point out where I've said anything about you that isn't completely true, I'm not the one calling you gay, just saying I don't see anything wrong with it since you're totally asking for it with your childish, repetitive forum trolling.
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Tobruk
Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.02 19:19:00 -
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Great, just when I thought I had cut jade's head off in the last thread two more pop up.
Can you please just get over it. Goons beat BOB, they pay to play the game, thus they have a right to post in CAOD about how they beat bob.
The only time you get flamed is if you go into a GS thread about it and say "no you didn't or it doesnt matter what you did, etc." Or like Jade and say "goonsawrm may have won but they are all a bunch ****s and **** them" and then complain when you get flamed.
IOW if you cant handle being called a *** then DONT GO INTO GS THREADS AND TALK ****. its really thay simple. ----------------------------------------------
Sig removed. Elmo Pug removed my sig because he hates me
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JeanPaul Sartre
Amarr THE INTERNET. Goodfellas.
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Posted - 2009.03.02 19:22:00 -
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Remember when Illuminati used to be in TRI and they were p. cool and laid back, aswell as being actually decent at PVP? (No me either). Now they seem to be reduced to spell checking the CAOD forums.
:sadface: --
Quote: If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.
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O Thief
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.02 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk Great, just when I thought I had cut jade's head off in the last thread two more pop up.
Can you please just get over it. Goons beat BOB, they pay to play the game, thus they have a right to post in CAOD about how they beat bob.
The only time you get flamed is if you go into a GS thread about it and say "no you didn't or it doesnt matter what you did, etc." Or like Jade and say "goonsawrm may have won but they are all a bunch ****s and **** them" and then complain when you get flamed.
IOW if you cant handle being called a *** then DONT GO INTO GS THREADS AND TALK ****. its really thay simple.
grow up
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.03.02 19:41:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Tobruk
Can you please just get over it. Goons beat BOB, they pay to play the game, thus they have a right to post in CAOD about how they beat bob.
This thread has nothing to do with BOB. It has to do with a climate of unacceptable personal attacks and out of game flaming on an in-character political discussion forum.
Quote: The only time you get flamed is if you go into a GS thread about it and say "no you didn't or it doesnt matter what you did, etc."
Or run against them for CSM election? I think you might be forgetting that little detail for the incident that started all this nonsense off. Reality is that unless you are a fanboi you get flamed and if you don't lose your temper and flame back then you will be attacked and harrassed with increasing ferocity up to and including rl stalking and attempted professional sabotage. I understand you'd like CAOD to be your private forum for goon+friends celebrations of your "achievements" but harassing other players in out of game vendettas is beyond the pale.
Quote: IOW if you cant handle being called a *** then DONT GO INTO GS THREADS AND TALK ****. its really thay simple.
I think on balance I'd rather people posted on CAOD with a bit more respect and adherence to the rules of forum interactions. Or as already suggested, that the rank and file smacktalkers in goonswarm and pandemic should use their own forums for childish trash-talking and some selected corporate leaders and representatives were appointed to post in this forum with collective responsibility for bad behaviour.
You guys are doing everything possible to prove the points and underline the suggestions I've made to this effect in this very thread.
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Dianeces
Minmatar The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.02 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre Alt post removed - Mitnal
Remember when THE INTERNET. used to be edgy and have really good trolls? (No, I don't either.) Now they seem to be reduced to spamming the CAOD forum before getting moderated for being alts.
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Illiya
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.02 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Tobruk
Can you please just get over it. Goons beat BOB, they pay to play the game, thus they have a right to post in CAOD about how they beat bob.
This thread has nothing to do with BOB. It has to do with a climate of unacceptable personal attacks and out of game flaming on an in-character political discussion forum.
Quote: The only time you get flamed is if you go into a GS thread about it and say "no you didn't or it doesnt matter what you did, etc."
Or run against them for CSM election? I think you might be forgetting that little detail for the incident that started all this nonsense off. Reality is that unless you are a fanboi you get flamed and if you don't lose your temper and flame back then you will be attacked and harrassed with increasing ferocity up to and including rl stalking and attempted professional sabotage. I understand you'd like CAOD to be your private forum for goon+friends celebrations of your "achievements" but harassing other players in out of game vendettas is beyond the pale.
Quote: IOW if you cant handle being called a *** then DONT GO INTO GS THREADS AND TALK ****. its really thay simple.
I think on balance I'd rather people posted on CAOD with a bit more respect and adherence to the rules of forum interactions. Or as already suggested, that the rank and file smacktalkers in goonswarm and pandemic should use their own forums for childish trash-talking and some selected corporate leaders and representatives were appointed to post in this forum with collective responsibility for bad behaviour.
You guys are doing everything possible to prove the points and underline the suggestions I've made to this effect in this very thread.
what do you plan on doing about it? go to war with goonswarm about it? or perhaps you should... post on caod about it? yes, yes! that should work!
*strokes beard* *laughs evilly* *leans back* Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal |
Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.02 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
This thread has nothing to do with BOB. It has to do with a climate of unacceptable personal attacks and out of game flaming on an in-character political discussion forum.
That you started.
Quote: I think you might be forgetting that little detail for the incident that started all this nonsense off.
Your maniacal power grab and non-nonsensical hatred for all people succeeding where you failed and playing the game in a manner you don't approve of?
No, i am pretty sure we all remember that.
Quote: you will be attacked and harrassed with increasing ferocity up to and including rl stalking and attempted professional sabotage.
No, you won't. None of this has ever happened. Its just your paranoid delusions. Just like your paranoid delusions that there was a Goonswarm conspiracy to block your 0.0 sovereignty proposals on the CSM that inlcuded CVA, Eve Bank, and Veto, the F13 Eve forum and game developers that resided there. You're just making **** up and hoping it will stick, like all those other times you made **** up hoping it will stick.
[I'd link to the posts where Jade lays out this conspiracy, but in one instance, she went back and manually edited all of her posts to "WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT" and in the other she refers to other peoples real names (including mine) multiple times and that would be in breach of the forum rules(for revealing their real names)
Or did you forget that the reason people started calling you by your real name on other forums was because you constantly referred to everyone else you knew about in that way if that disagreed with you?
Quote: Or as already suggested, that the rank and file smacktalkers in goonswarm and pandemic should use their own forum
Maybe you should take your own advice since you "have no interest in 0.0"?
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Lunas Feelgood
Gallente S.A.S Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.02 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: Lunas Feelgood on 02/03/2009 20:24:32 Edited by: Lunas Feelgood on 02/03/2009 20:20:49 As a CAOD reader and poster the last 6 years I can say for 100% surdency that CAOD havent change abit..
CAOD will and allways be a place for gloating, propaganda and low blow punches. This is what make CAOD fun..
Ofc like in any forum you still got the usually alts, trollers, highjackers etc.. But if you just ignore these you will have a good time here..
I dont know who you are Monti but you claim that CAOD has become and extension of Goonfleet.com???
Well how wrong are you.. Atm Goons do alot of post but if you look at the political landscape you will know why. If this has been reversed the other faction will have done the same..
CAOD has allways been like this and I got no clue what you on about.. But Il tell you from 6 years of CAOD experience CAOD has never changed..
PS. There is nothing wrong with insinuating jade is a homosexual. If I know Jade right he will proberly take this as a complaint..
In short you hole post seems to lack any evidence whatsoever for you claims.. I dont recall you on CAOD ever, you not a regulary poster and with you clearly lack of knowledge on how or what CAOD is I would say this is just a pathtic pro BOB post..
Now GTFO and come back when you got the stomach for CAOD...
Originally by: Jade Constantine You can't expect seasoned Eve players with an awareness of history
Originally by: BOB
"I played EVE for 5 years and all I got left is crappy forum alts"..
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Montasque
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.02 20:22:00 -
[176]
The hypocrisy of Jade has no bounds.
While playing the victim in this thread Jade failed to note that just last night he insulted DJÆs wife on this very forum.
But thatÆs beside the point, everyone knows Jade is a douche bag. The guy is nothing but an attention ***** who seeks any form of validation. Ignore him, heÆs irrelevant.
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Palmer Eldritch
Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.02 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
I think on balance I'd rather people posted on CAOD with a bit more respect and adherence to the rules of forum interactions.
This is either a troll or you don't actually read your own posts before you post them.
------------ Coranor you all know i can't stand most of the gbc but while we have them we may as well give them something challenging where they can actually learn a bit Dian fair point |
Lunas Feelgood
Gallente S.A.S Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.02 20:50:00 -
[178]
Originally by: O Thief
Originally by: Dark Motoko
Originally by: 128th ABC123
Originally by: Jade Constantine Hell, last night we had the goon CSM delegate swearing and shouting, calling me a "poofter" and saying that he'd have beaten me up in iceland if his wife hadn't stopped him
Not exactly great behaviour from an elected player representative for Eve really is it?
And of course this isn't new. Back to last year again while I was contesting the first CSM campaign the goons ran a program of harassment against me where they hosted a website registered in my character name, took my CV from personal webspace and mailed an allegation that I was actually working as an "internet prostitute" to three of my previous clients in the weeks before the election result.
And of course the ironic thing is that those same goons are still referencing and routinely linking to exactly the same material night after night (now) with the tacit and overt encouragement of their CSM delegate Darius JOHNSON.
Now I'm lucky. I'm self-employed, I come from a professional community that is quite internet savvy and knows a fair bit about gaming and generation-x angst and has read about goons before. My business contacts laugh off this stuff but seriously. I could see that some players would actually be significantly harmed by this kind of behaviour - it's absolutely not acceptable.
Wow.. am I the only one that thinks this is completely unacceptable??? Real life harassment over a video game?
Exactly
I'm almost ashamed to be a human being when I read stuff like that.
And I'm definately ashamed to be sharing an internet spaceship server with those maladjusted freaks.
Hey O Thief would you also belive this fairytale, If I told you Im in the guinness world records for having the biggest love stick in the world???
Its the truth becuase I sayd it here on CAOD
Originally by: Jade Constantine You can't expect seasoned Eve players with an awareness of history
Originally by: BOB
"I played EVE for 5 years and all I got left is crappy forum alts"..
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Venomire
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.02 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Youre right with that ppl have voted with their feet on shc, and kicked your kind out. While shc has maybe 20 posts a day, i wouldnt be surprised if it has more reader then caod - afterall its no secret to anyone that if you wonna hear about politics in eve, and theres much more going on then in delve at this time, Shc is the place to go to, not caod.
You sound like an 07. I knew we should have banned all 07s (and 08s and 09s).
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SodiumCyanide
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.02 21:12:00 -
[180]
Your tears, they are so delicious.
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